after first hearing music on the tv speakers i am quite shocked. they have quite a lot of bass, can go loud and don't sound bad. way better than my old sony w905. are these the best tv speakers you can get without a tv using proper speakers like the sony x93 or the lg with their sound bar's on some tv's? although they are said to be 4.2 which doesn't make sense. 3.2 would seem more logical.