Rotel RC1570/RB1582

[alchemist 1]

Considering pre/power. Would there be any advantage over my current YAMAHA AS2000 AMP.

How good is this combination ?

Also what kind of sound do they produce ?

Any others to consider in this price bracket ?

 

[Frank Harvey]

The main difference you'll hear is that the Rotel sound is tighter and more precise, whereas the Yamaha tends to be a little more on the laid back side. You could also look at the Primare I32 and Roksan Caspian M2 inegrated amplifiers.

 

[ISAC69]

Considering pre/power. Would there be any advantage over my current YAMAHA AS2000 AMP.

How good is this combination ?

Also what kind of sound do they produce ?

Any others to consider in this price bracket ?

What is your speakers ?

 

[alchemist 1]

Considering pre/power. Would there be any advantage over my current YAMAHA AS2000 AMP.

How good is this combination ?

Also what kind of sound do they produce ?

Any others to consider in this price bracket ?

What is your speakers ?

kef ls50'S

 

[CnoEvil]

If you are not set on Pre/Power, then what about an Electro ECI-3: http://www.audio-cinema.co.uk/electrocompaniet-eci-3-integrated-amplifier-6102-p.asp

or better still this ECI-5: http://www.fanthorpes.co.uk/second-hand/electrocompaniet-eci5-mkii-integrated-amplifier-2216793-418209-834973.php

 

[Frank Harvey]

Oddly enough, I'll be trying the LS50s with various sub £2,000 amps (maybe even more expensive) for a distant forum member sometime next week. I'll let you know how I get on. Unless you want to sit in with me! He seems to be in the same situation as you...

 

[ISAC69]

I own the RB1580/RC1582 combination with the Proac Sudio 140MK2 ,

excellent match : natural , neutral and punchy .

Not sure about how it will be with the Kef LS50 ...

Maybe David @FrankHarvey can make a demo and check this *bye*

 

[alchemist 1]

The main difference you'll hear is that the Rotel sound is tighter and more precise, whereas the Yamaha tends to be a little more on the laid back side. You could also look at the Primare I32 and Roksan Caspian M2 inegrated amplifiers.

David how would you describe the Primare and Roksan sound ?

Concerned about power output as the Yamaha is a 100watts per ch.

The Yamaha is a great sounding amp.

I was just wondering which direction to go for a upgade in quality of sound.

On saying that it would have to something rather special to beat the AS2000.

I must admit those new Yamaha AS3000 models look tempting.

But may be of the same Yamaha house sound ?

 

[CnoEvil]

On saying that it would have to something rather special to beat the AS2000.

IMO. The Electos that I linked to should do that. They have a lot of the traits that you like about the Yamaha, but should give a bit more excitement/dynamics.....especially the ECI-5.

The Rotels will give a leaner presentation, which should suit the LS50s fine, but may not be as involving.

IMO. If you want to keep the smoother character of your Yamaha, it's amps from Electro, Pathos and Audio Analogue that should be on your dem list.

If you want a good Class D amp, as well as Primare, look at the Bel Canto C5i.

Here is another fine musical amp that should meet your brief: http://www.analogueseduction.net/ayre-acoustics/ayre-ax-7e-integrated-amplifier-silver-ex-demonstration.html

 

[Frank Harvey]

David how would you describe the Primare and Roksan sound ?

Concerned about power output as the Yamaha is a 100watts per ch.

The Yamaha is a great sounding amp.

I was just wondering which direction to go for a upgade in quality of sound.

On saying that it would have to something rather special to beat the AS2000.

I must admit those new Yamaha AS3000 models look tempting.

But may be of the same Yamaha house sound ?

Well we have the AS2100 on its way to us to compliment the matching CD player, so I'll be able to comment on that some time soon.

I wouldn't worry too much about watts per channel.

I think the Roksan will be closer to what you already have in some respects, and the Primare is quite different, using high efficiency amplification.

 

[Vladimir]

+1 for Electrocompaniet. *good*

 

[ISAC69]

Hegel H100 can be an intersting option too .

 

[alchemist 1]

David how would you describe the Primare and Roksan sound ?

Concerned about power output as the Yamaha is a 100watts per ch.

The Yamaha is a great sounding amp.

I was just wondering which direction to go for a upgade in quality of sound.

On saying that it would have to something rather special to beat the AS2000.

I must admit those new Yamaha AS3000 models look tempting.

But may be of the same Yamaha house sound ?

Well we have the AS2100 on its way to us to compliment the matching CD player, so I'll be able to comment on that some time soon.

I wouldn't worry too much about watts per channel.

I think the Roksan will be closer to what you already have in some respects, and the Primare is quite different, using high efficiency amplification.

Hello David, has the AS2100 reached you yet ?

WHF's AS 3000 REVIEW didn't suprise me going by their past reviews of yamaha's two channel products.

 

[Frank Harvey]

Hello David, has the AS2100 reached you yet ?

WHF's AS 3000 REVIEW didn't suprise me going by their past reviews of yamaha's two channel products.

Hiya

Oddly, not yet!

We had the AS3000 here for our open day last November, which was driving some Sonus Faber Venere 3.0 with a Michell Orbe SE with SME V arm - the system sounded amazing. John Carpenter's Halloween soundtrack on the Death Waltz label sounded stunning! That was using the matching CD player too, but I don't think it got a look in with all the vinyl we were playing.

 

[alchemist 1]

Oddly enough, I'll be trying the LS50s with various sub £2,000 amps (maybe even more expensive) for a distant forum member sometime next week. I'll let you know how I get on. Unless you want to sit in with me! He seems to be in the same situation as you...

Did the above demo take place ? Any conclusions ?..........

 

[Esra]

With your kef LS50 you should def. try some Audiolab gear as they have great synergy e.x. Mdac + 8200P or better 8200MB monos.Don´t know your budget.