Replacing my Pioneer PL-115D

[jjbomber]

Where did Heathergarcia come from? I didn't know that you could play Pacman on a turntable.

Turntable mat is made from Spam!

 

[Al ears]

Where did Heathergarcia come from? I didn't know that you could play Pacman on a turntable.

Spammer.....

 

[helijohn]

Stick with the PL-115D, it's (more than) good enough to feed a soundbar.

You do realise how small something like that Phono box is don't you?
If you really are pushed for space, you could have the necessary phono preamp built in to the TT - maybe something like a Rega P1+??.

But you know what I would do......
(A twin RCA plug to 3.5 mm stereo jack plugs connects from phono preamp to your soundbar input).

I have decided to stick to my Pioneer and the AT is on its way back.
I had thought of putting a phono preamp in the Pioneer. It would be an easy job electrically though I am not sure what to look for that would fit.
Also, may I ask, is there a particular oil I should use for the lube hole.

 

[Gray]

I have decided to stick to my Pioneer and the AT is on its way back.
I had thought of putting a phono preamp in the Pioneer. It would be an easy job electrically though I am not sure what to look for that would fit.
Also, may I ask, is there a particular oil I should use for the lube hole.

No doubt plenty of people will tell you to use the 'proper' stuff.
But plenty of people are using sewing machine oil (and some are using synthetic car oil 🤔).

 

[helijohn]

No doubt plenty of people will tell you to use the 'proper' stuff.
But plenty of people are using sewing machine oil (and some are using synthetic car oil 🤔).

Yes thanks. I service my sewing machines and have plenty of that oil!

 

[Al ears]

Yes thanks. I service my sewing machines and have plenty of that oil!

Plenty good enough. Just make sure any old congealed gunk is removed first.

 

[helijohn]

Plenty good enough. Just make sure any old congealed gunk is removed first.

Surprisingly it all looked gunk free.

 

[Al ears]

Surprisingly it all looked gunk free.

Excellent. You will not need much fresh oil.
But you might need a bit of kitchen towel. Don't let it go anywhere near the belt.
and stick a decent cartridge on it....

 

[helijohn]

Excellent. You will not need much fresh oil.
But you might need a bit of kitchen towel. Don't let it go anywhere near the belt.

I cleaned the belt motor's capstan and got some very slight muck off so it was pretty clean too!

 

[Al ears]

I cleaned the belt motor's capstan and got some very slight muck off so it was pretty clean too!

How did you clean it as a matter of interest?

 

[DougK1]

How did you clean it as a matter of interest?

Pressure washer

 

[Al ears]

Pressure washer

really? Novel.
daft response from someone I wasn't asking.
no wonder th is forum is going downhill.....

 

[record_spot]

Ach blow £500 and get a Cambridge Alva ST off the Cambridge shop on Ebay - you'll get a discount on top of that if you're quick. Great deck too.

 

[helijohn]

How did you clean it as a matter of interest?

Sandpaper...no, just kidding.. lol
Isopropyl alcohol on cotton bud sticks with the motor spinning.

 

[helijohn]

Pressure washer

Tried that but it wouldn't fit in the office.

 

[helijohn]

Ach blow £500 and get a Cambridge Alva ST off the Cambridge shop on Ebay - you'll get a discount on top of that if you're quick. Great deck too.

Talking of which, I have a rattle can of air duster which chucks out liquid more than air. Awful stuff.

 

[helijohn]

When I have fitted a new belt I'll bung on an LP and see how it goes.

 

[daytona600]

Ach blow £500 and get a Cambridge Alva ST off the Cambridge shop on Ebay

Made in Japan or made in China !
Cambridge - half price , made in china & they still cant shift them
resale value wiill be a tenner & will end up in landfill very soon

Pioneer 50years old & worth £400 these days

Pioneer Pl-115d for sale | eBay

Find great deals on eBay for Pioneer Pl-115d. Shop with confidence.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[helijohn]

Excellent. You will not need much fresh oil.
But you might need a bit of kitchen towel. Don't let it go anywhere near the belt.
and stick a decent cartridge on it....

Do I need a pre-amp that has an earth facility like this one. I seem to recall never bothering with the earth lead when the TT was in use donkey's years ago.

PP400 M/M Phono Preamplifier Turntable Preamp Stereo RCA Input & Output 12V/1A | eBay

ãRCA InputãPhono preamplifier, features stereo RCA inputs and outputs and 1/4" TRS connectors, DC 12V adapter included. 2 xRCA inputs (R), 2 xRCA outputs (R), 12V socket, ideal for speakers, amplifiers and audio mixers.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[record_spot]

Ach blow £500 and get a Cambridge Alva ST off the Cambridge shop on Ebay

Made in Japan or made in China !
Cambridge - half price , made in china & they still cant shift them
resale value wiill be a tenner & will end up in landfill very soon

Pioneer 50years old & worth £400 these days

Pioneer Pl-115d for sale | eBay

Find great deals on eBay for Pioneer Pl-115d. Shop with confidence.

www.ebay.co.uk

Can't yawn enough at comments like these these days. The Pioneers were churned out by the tens of thousands back in the 70s, so it's hardly surprising some have survived. Spare parts are also plentiful, so yes, your PL115D will last 50 years but let's not bring Trigger's Broom into the equation.

Oh and £400? For some, maybe. You'll be paying top dollar if you are though. Prices range from about £120 upwards. Or less in some cases looking at the Sold items on Ebay.

I'm not knocking the Pioneer, or your opinion of them, merely pointing out that your bias against anything built in China, it seems, isn't worth a glance.

Having owned the Cambridge for coming up on two years, Build quality is excellent and the minimalist design appeals to me. Partnered with the Benz Micro Gold and the Musical Fidelity phono pre-amp it's remained where the Thorens TD-160 I have was moved out. For good reason.

 

[helijohn]

Ach blow £500 and get a Cambridge Alva ST off the Cambridge shop on Ebay

Made in Japan or made in China !
Cambridge - half price , made in china & they still cant shift them
resale value wiill be a tenner & will end up in landfill very soon

Pioneer 50years old & worth £400 these days

Pioneer Pl-115d for sale | eBay

Find great deals on eBay for Pioneer Pl-115d. Shop with confidence.

www.ebay.co.uk

I saw those a few days ago. I still have the actual box as well and it reads , but faded, 1977. I stopped using it at about the time CDs came out more or less! lol

 

[helijohn]

Can't yawn enough at comments like these these days. The Pioneers were churned out by the tens of thousands back in the 70s, so it's hardly surprising some have survived. Spare parts are also plentiful, so yes, your PL115D will last 50 years but let's not bring Trigger's Broom into the equation.

Oh and £400? For some, maybe. You'll be paying top dollar if you are though. Prices range from about £120 upwards. Or less in some cases looking at the Sold items on Ebay.

I'm not knocking the Pioneer, or your opinion of them, merely pointing out that your bias against anything built in China, it seems, isn't worth a glance.

Having owned the Cambridge for coming up on two years, Build quality is excellent and the minimalist design appeals to me. Partnered with the Benz Micro Gold and the Musical Fidelity phono pre-amp it's remained where the Thorens TD-160 I have was moved out. For good reason.

I am still going to acquire an up-to-date cheapo turntable with all the latest bells an whistles. I wasn't particularly enamoured with the AT LP60X partly because of the feeling it was in control and not me. If it had the features that my Pioneer has I reckon it would have been superb. However, there are those out there that do have.

 

[Al ears]

Do I need a pre-amp that has an earth facility like this one. I seem to recall never bothering with the earth lead when the TT was in use donkey's years ago.

PP400 M/M Phono Preamplifier Turntable Preamp Stereo RCA Input & Output 12V/1A | eBay

ãRCA InputãPhono preamplifier, features stereo RCA inputs and outputs and 1/4" TRS connectors, DC 12V adapter included. 2 xRCA inputs (R), 2 xRCA outputs (R), 12V socket, ideal for speakers, amplifiers and audio mixers.

www.ebay.co.uk

Yes, in some cases the earth is crucial.
All phono preamps should have one.
However, I would spend a bit more than the one shown here.

 

[helijohn]

Yes, in some cases the earth is crucial.
All phono preamps should have one.
However, I would spend a bit more than the one shown here.

I am going to give it a go - it will get the Pioneer "on the road" so to speak and I can always go better later on - Starmer willing.