Hi daveh75 I know you are the man to ask about a strange problem with my hd boxes. The hd box in my lounge has the updated channel list but my recently aquired hd box in another room,on a multiroom sub still has the old lineup of hd channels. My question is how can i get the new lineup on the other box,I have updated the box and phoned skys customer service and they sent a new signal to the box,but still no joy,can you help,thanks.