Guys...this is going ridiculous how many NEW LPs are warped. The most risky thing is when you order sth online. With shops you can go back and return pretty asap. I MEAN REALLY WARPED. Not slightly acceptable within limits but actually to the point of needle bouncing ! This happens especially with smaller record companies. LTD editions etc. Looks like workers pick often them up still warm from the press and deform them instantly. Where the hell is quality control of the pressings ?? To flatten a vinyl is a difficult and risky process unless you spend 600 € min. for a record flattening machine.
Quality Control at Pressing Plants
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macdiddy
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but I've not had the problems you seem to have had with new vinyl even when ordering online, I tend to stick with the same record shops over and over again and am lucky to have a local shop who check to see if their vinyl is okay (and will not sell any that are warped).
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macdiddy said:
Yes, true when I order sth from a bigger companies, fortutnately 99% of them are ok. As said it can happen with the small labels that have their own "indie" laquer cut. Risky like hell.
Al ears
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stereoman said:
If they are badly warped then it's nothing to do with the pressing but storage before it's shipped to you.
3/5 LP's I receive are warped, and I mean seriously warped. I guess the vinyl plants speculate in the 50% (probably all hipsters) that buy vinyl, but never play it. Some companies seem worse than others. Everything I get from e.g. Nuclear Blast is warped.
I always buy vinyl at amazon. If warped I make a complaint, they pay for the retur (sometimes they don't even require a return) and I get my money back. Perfect service in this warped world.
I always buy vinyl at amazon. If warped I make a complaint, they pay for the retur (sometimes they don't even require a return) and I get my money back. Perfect service in this warped world.
chebby
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Peter Larsen said:
Al ears said:
As Al says, it's to do with inadequate storage rather than a fault at the pressing plant. The hated shrinkwrap doesn't help either.
Peter Larsen said:
I buy my records from my local shop (have been lucky enough to have one locally since 2015). Very few records I buy from there are warped. In fact, the situation has improved vastly over the past 12 months; last month I had to return a record for the first time since September – all others have been fine, for both warping and scratches. Now that's what I call perfect service.
Buying them online, especially American pressings, is a different matter – many have been warped and often poorly pressed as well. Mail-order and storage by non-specialist dealers (yes, including Amazon) has to be the main reason so many mail-order LPs are warped.
knaithrover
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Worst problems I've had have been when buying from HMV, necessary as there is only one proper local record shop near me who are ace for 2nd hand but charge a fortune for new releases. 50% warped from HMV plus v irritating assistants who have been told to show an interest in what you are buying. Oooh Fleetwood Mac my favourite band - really? What's your favourite album? Erm Greatest Hits? Alan Partridge-esque....
Alantiggger
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Alantiggger said:
Oh yeh, what a brilliant idea. I'd never thought of that. Genius!
ps: there's no apostrophe in plurals such as CDs.
thescarletpronster said:
Lol...true , no apostrophe. As the buying CDs is concerned - I do. As much as I love Vinyls I never ever said that CDs sound worse. For all these years they still sound amazing. Just a different form of listening. Neither is better than the other. Please mind that CD is the only medium who has been constantly in sales for decades, surpassing cassettes and other media owing to the fact the CDs had never a break from production or decreasing sales like Vinyl for example around 1990 - 1999.
stereoman said:
And also because record companies promoted and pushed the CD format so forcefully over many years, because it was so much more profitable for them that records.
Al ears
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stereoman said:
Really. You obviously don't remember how long vinyl had been going before CD s came along......
...... and the plural of vinyl is vinyl...... ;-)
Alantiggger
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I simply said 'buy cd's (I know, I know... no (') ) spelling police now too, how sad.
I also think you missed the fact I ended with a
.... that by the way is a 'cheeky', some are so self obsessed and a good number come across as such snobs, why ? Do grow-up.
I like my records a lot more than any CD of the same title.
I also think you missed the fact I ended with a
I like my records a lot more than any CD of the same title.
None of this is new. It's just that the inherrent flaws of this ancient carrier system are now only being discovered by a new generation, a generation who are at least ten years younger than me and who have been brought up on a diet of CDs and downloads with no surface noise or imperfections.
For example where were you in the 70s and early 80s when about 40-50% of the 7" singles I bought were pressed at least slightly off-centre (some worse than others), giving rise to the distinctive 'wow' effect that we all just took for granted? Where were you when compilation LPs from K-Tel and Ronco et al crammed-in 20 (edited) songs on one LP, with the result that they had to be cut so quiet [to get circa 30 mins of music per side] that the surface noise was often as loud as the music? Where were you when as a kid I used keep a 1/2penny piece in my Defiant record player so that the stylus on its Garrard AT6 would track the first half inch on the 1-in-5 (at best) LPs that were warped when you bought them?
All the people new to records who think that somehow in the old days records were immaculate pieces of hand-crafted perfection cut lovingly by elves...you weren't around to witness the fact that a whole lot of the records were in fact shite.
For example where were you in the 70s and early 80s when about 40-50% of the 7" singles I bought were pressed at least slightly off-centre (some worse than others), giving rise to the distinctive 'wow' effect that we all just took for granted? Where were you when compilation LPs from K-Tel and Ronco et al crammed-in 20 (edited) songs on one LP, with the result that they had to be cut so quiet [to get circa 30 mins of music per side] that the surface noise was often as loud as the music? Where were you when as a kid I used keep a 1/2penny piece in my Defiant record player so that the stylus on its Garrard AT6 would track the first half inch on the 1-in-5 (at best) LPs that were warped when you bought them?
All the people new to records who think that somehow in the old days records were immaculate pieces of hand-crafted perfection cut lovingly by elves...you weren't around to witness the fact that a whole lot of the records were in fact shite.
Alantiggger said:
Look back through every similar discussion in this forum down the years and on each one someone pops up to 'cheekily' say 'buy CDs instead'.
Where have you read snobbery in this discussion? I listen to CDs more often that I do to records, because they're less effort. But this section of the forum is called 'Turntables and LPs' for a reason ... it's the place to discuss, um, turntables and LPs. Just because people discuss LPs here rather than CDs doesn't mean they're snobs, it's just what this bit of the forum is for.
And 'grow up' - really?
I can only say that of the hundreds of records I bought new in the second half of the 80s, I had to return far fewer than those I've bought in the past few years. And yes, my expectations at the time were far lower, but you know what? They still sound good, with far fewer flaws than the new records I've bought, when I listen to them now with my high expecations – an in spite of being played dozens, and in some cases hundreds, of times. Records I've bought second-hand from the late 60s and 70s are even better in most cases. Yes, there were some dips in quality such as during the oil crisis when 'Dynaflex' and other things were used, but that only affected the substrate – the mastering, cutting and pressing expertise, and quality control in the plant, were far higher than many current operators manage.
Of course there were poorer quality discs, such as those from K-Tel and Ronco, but they had the virtue of costing a couple of quid rather than the £20+ that most of the poor quality discs being sold now cost.
Of course there were poorer quality discs, such as those from K-Tel and Ronco, but they had the virtue of costing a couple of quid rather than the £20+ that most of the poor quality discs being sold now cost.
Storage may be the culprit for some of the warpes, but not from brand new vinyl bought on the release day. They are warped due to bad handling at the plant. I have given up on one particular album from the same artist. Tried Amazon, directly from label (3 times, they even went through their stock to find the least warped one, concluding they were all warped) and from local store. Returned all of them. All warped in almost exactly the same way.
thescarletpronster said:
you would be surprised how close to release they are pressed due to high demand and the plants having trouble keeping up.
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