PJPro:Gonna have to find another way to scratch that itch. And it's in the post!
A scratching post?
A scratching post?
AEJim
Well-known member
Andrew Everard:
BTW, has anyone else noticed that the BBC always refers to him as 'President Obama', rather than 'US President Obama', whereas it's 'German Chancellor Merkel' and 'French President Sarkoszy'?
Does the BBC know something we don't? Is Gordon about to hand over the keys to the UK to our new President in a ceremony to be held at that windswept hangar out in Docklands tomorrow?
ÿ
Would be nice to have a leader with at least an inkling of competancy! (yet to be proven of course, but I think any change would be welcomed by most at present!)ÿ
BTW, has anyone else noticed that the BBC always refers to him as 'President Obama', rather than 'US President Obama', whereas it's 'German Chancellor Merkel' and 'French President Sarkoszy'?
Does the BBC know something we don't? Is Gordon about to hand over the keys to the UK to our new President in a ceremony to be held at that windswept hangar out in Docklands tomorrow?
ÿ
Would be nice to have a leader with at least an inkling of competancy! (yet to be proven of course, but I think any change would be welcomed by most at present!)ÿ
Alec
Well-known member
Andrew Everard:
Better by far to stick with products that maintain their already too high prices.
BTW why are Apple products the same price everywhere you look, from their own PommeShops to between the oranges and pears at Asda?
Restrictive supply chains? Or the magnanimous people in the Infinite Loop being egalitarian as well as wonderful?
Irony: in America, it's how iron tastes...
"Well is'nt it ironic, dontcha think?"
No, I do'nt.
In order to have irresponsible lenders, dont you need irresponsible lenders (EDIT - i mean "borrowers", obviously) too?
Numerical obscenity?! I really must investigate...
Mind, its almost obscene that some here think - regrdless of the whys and wherefors - that 30% is'nt a lot.
However, i would agree we are almost all pretty pampered here and shouldnt forget it.
Better by far to stick with products that maintain their already too high prices.
BTW why are Apple products the same price everywhere you look, from their own PommeShops to between the oranges and pears at Asda?
Restrictive supply chains? Or the magnanimous people in the Infinite Loop being egalitarian as well as wonderful?
Irony: in America, it's how iron tastes...
"Well is'nt it ironic, dontcha think?"
No, I do'nt.
In order to have irresponsible lenders, dont you need irresponsible lenders (EDIT - i mean "borrowers", obviously) too?
Numerical obscenity?! I really must investigate...
Mind, its almost obscene that some here think - regrdless of the whys and wherefors - that 30% is'nt a lot.
However, i would agree we are almost all pretty pampered here and shouldnt forget it.
Andrew Everard:Probably only for the better...
U.S prices on electricals(and most other things) in the U.K ????
U.S prices on electricals(and most other things) in the U.K ????
Hi all, Yes i really have being put off by the never ending price rises, I'm now more that happy to keep my gear for much much longer now that some prices are just funny.
Quick question, Will prices fall back down when the pound get's stronger?........me i don't think so.
There are some hifi companies who put their prices up every year even when the pound is super strong. You could blame rising wage bills for this, but now in the recession wages have being cut and yes mine also, 10%.
So is this just greed?
One way i think they could justify a rise is by updating their products and not just hiking up the price for older gear.
One last thing i know i will get a hard time from the WHF team as it's their job to promote/protect the hifi trade.
Cheers
Quick question, Will prices fall back down when the pound get's stronger?........me i don't think so.
There are some hifi companies who put their prices up every year even when the pound is super strong. You could blame rising wage bills for this, but now in the recession wages have being cut and yes mine also, 10%.
So is this just greed?
One way i think they could justify a rise is by updating their products and not just hiking up the price for older gear.
One last thing i know i will get a hard time from the WHF team as it's their job to promote/protect the hifi trade.
Cheers
professorhat
Well-known member
Spam:Quick question, Will prices fall back down when the pound get's stronger?........me i don't think so.
Depends, in some cases competition will drive down the price if an advantage can be seen to be gained.
Depends, in some cases competition will drive down the price if an advantage can be seen to be gained.
professorhat:
Spam:Quick question, Will prices fall back down when the pound get's stronger?........me i don't think so.
Depends, in some cases competition will drive down the price if an advantage can be seen to be gained.
I think we are seeing a situation at the moment where companies are trying to get leaner and meaner but still make profits. There is no point in making and selling a product at a loss.There are a lot of big electrical corporations around the world who made horrendous losses during 2008.
Spam:Quick question, Will prices fall back down when the pound get's stronger?........me i don't think so.
Depends, in some cases competition will drive down the price if an advantage can be seen to be gained.
I think we are seeing a situation at the moment where companies are trying to get leaner and meaner but still make profits. There is no point in making and selling a product at a loss.There are a lot of big electrical corporations around the world who made horrendous losses during 2008.
professorhat
Well-known member
Indeed, but my point was if the pound gets stronger and profits can still be made with price cuts, competition may well drive this in some cases.
The_Lhc
Well-known member
al7478: " is'nt "
do'nt.
is'nt
Don't be offended but the word you are attempting to abbreviate there is "not".
cheers.
do'nt.
is'nt
Don't be offended but the word you are attempting to abbreviate there is "not".
cheers.
Alec
Well-known member
the_lhc:al7478: " is'nt "
do'nt.
is'nt
Don't be offended but the word you are attempting to abbreviate there is "not".
cheers.
Uwot?
EDIT - yeah, yeah, i getcha.
You missed loads of other 'owlers tho innit.
do'nt.
is'nt
Don't be offended but the word you are attempting to abbreviate there is "not".
cheers.
Uwot?
EDIT - yeah, yeah, i getcha.
You missed loads of other 'owlers tho innit.
al7478:Andrew Everard:
Better by far to stick with products that maintain their already too high prices.
BTW why are Apple products the same price everywhere you look, from their own PommeShops to between the oranges and pears at Asda?
Restrictive supply chains? Or the magnanimous people in the Infinite Loop being egalitarian as well as wonderful?
Irony: in America, it's how iron tastes...
"Well is'nt it ironic, dontcha think?"
No, I do'nt.
In order to have irresponsible lenders, dont you need irresponsible lenders (EDIT - i mean "borrowers", obviously)ÿtoo?
Numerical obscenity?! I really must investigate...
Mind, its almost obscene that some here think - regrdless of the whys and wherefors - that 30% is'nt a lot.
However, i would agree we are almostÿall pretty pampered here and shouldnt forget it.
ÿ
They just refuse to sell to anyone who discounts. Only the very best brands can do this. That's the secret of their marketing, from product design to end ad the experience and brief is the same. Very impressive.
ÿ
ÿ
Better by far to stick with products that maintain their already too high prices.
BTW why are Apple products the same price everywhere you look, from their own PommeShops to between the oranges and pears at Asda?
Restrictive supply chains? Or the magnanimous people in the Infinite Loop being egalitarian as well as wonderful?
Irony: in America, it's how iron tastes...
"Well is'nt it ironic, dontcha think?"
No, I do'nt.
In order to have irresponsible lenders, dont you need irresponsible lenders (EDIT - i mean "borrowers", obviously)ÿtoo?
Numerical obscenity?! I really must investigate...
Mind, its almost obscene that some here think - regrdless of the whys and wherefors - that 30% is'nt a lot.
However, i would agree we are almostÿall pretty pampered here and shouldnt forget it.
ÿ
They just refuse to sell to anyone who discounts. Only the very best brands can do this. That's the secret of their marketing, from product design to end ad the experience and brief is the same. Very impressive.
ÿ
ÿ
Spam:One last thing i know i will get a hard time from the WHF team as it's their job to promote/protect the hifi trade.
Spam by name...
Another one of those posts that has one looking at the email address to work out what axe is being ground...
And by the way, while we promote hi-fi - and indeed home cinema and a lot of other home entertainment options - we protect no-one.
Spam by name...
Another one of those posts that has one looking at the email address to work out what axe is being ground...
And by the way, while we promote hi-fi - and indeed home cinema and a lot of other home entertainment options - we protect no-one.
Alec
Well-known member
JoelSim:al7478:Andrew Everard:
Better by far to stick with products that maintain their already too high prices.
BTW why are Apple products the same price everywhere you look, from their own PommeShops to between the oranges and pears at Asda?
Restrictive supply chains? Or the magnanimous people in the Infinite Loop being egalitarian as well as wonderful?
Irony: in America, it's how iron tastes...
"Well is'nt it ironic, dontcha think?"
No, I do'nt.
In order to have irresponsible lenders, dont you need irresponsible lenders (EDIT - i mean "borrowers", obviously) too?
Numerical obscenity?! I really must investigate...
Mind, its almost obscene that some here think - regrdless of the whys and wherefors - that 30% is'nt a lot.
However, i would agree we are almost all pretty pampered here and shouldnt forget it.
Only the very best brands can do this.
Is this really true, or does doing it make them "the best" in folks' minds only? It certainly adds to their exclusivity.
Better by far to stick with products that maintain their already too high prices.
BTW why are Apple products the same price everywhere you look, from their own PommeShops to between the oranges and pears at Asda?
Restrictive supply chains? Or the magnanimous people in the Infinite Loop being egalitarian as well as wonderful?
Irony: in America, it's how iron tastes...
"Well is'nt it ironic, dontcha think?"
No, I do'nt.
In order to have irresponsible lenders, dont you need irresponsible lenders (EDIT - i mean "borrowers", obviously) too?
Numerical obscenity?! I really must investigate...
Mind, its almost obscene that some here think - regrdless of the whys and wherefors - that 30% is'nt a lot.
However, i would agree we are almost all pretty pampered here and shouldnt forget it.
Only the very best brands can do this.
Is this really true, or does doing it make them "the best" in folks' minds only? It certainly adds to their exclusivity.
al7478:JoelSim:al7478:Andrew Everard:
Better by far to stick with products that maintain their already too high prices.
BTW why are Apple products the same price everywhere you look, from their own PommeShops to between the oranges and pears at Asda?
Restrictive supply chains? Or the magnanimous people in the Infinite Loop being egalitarian as well as wonderful?
Irony: in America, it's how iron tastes...
"Well is'nt it ironic, dontcha think?"
No, I do'nt.
In order to have irresponsible lenders, dont you need irresponsible lenders (EDIT - i mean "borrowers", obviously)ÿtoo?
Numerical obscenity?! I really must investigate...
Mind, its almost obscene that some here think - regrdless of the whys and wherefors - that 30% is'nt a lot.
However, i would agree we are almostÿall pretty pampered here and shouldnt forget it.
ÿ
Only the very best brands can do this.
ÿ
ÿ
Is this really true, or does doing it make them "the best" in folks' minds only? It certainly adds to their exclusivity.
ÿ
It doesn't matter which is true, the perception is there and that is enough. I'm pretty sure they don't have the best computers in the world, but they have the best image, identity, brand...and they are unique.
ÿ
Better by far to stick with products that maintain their already too high prices.
BTW why are Apple products the same price everywhere you look, from their own PommeShops to between the oranges and pears at Asda?
Restrictive supply chains? Or the magnanimous people in the Infinite Loop being egalitarian as well as wonderful?
Irony: in America, it's how iron tastes...
"Well is'nt it ironic, dontcha think?"
No, I do'nt.
In order to have irresponsible lenders, dont you need irresponsible lenders (EDIT - i mean "borrowers", obviously)ÿtoo?
Numerical obscenity?! I really must investigate...
Mind, its almost obscene that some here think - regrdless of the whys and wherefors - that 30% is'nt a lot.
However, i would agree we are almostÿall pretty pampered here and shouldnt forget it.
ÿ
Only the very best brands can do this.
ÿ
ÿ
Is this really true, or does doing it make them "the best" in folks' minds only? It certainly adds to their exclusivity.
ÿ
It doesn't matter which is true, the perception is there and that is enough. I'm pretty sure they don't have the best computers in the world, but they have the best image, identity, brand...and they are unique.
ÿ
JoelSim:and they are unique.
That's just branding. They're just another big, would-be world-dominating, computer company. With about 10% market share by operating system.
That's just branding. They're just another big, would-be world-dominating, computer company. With about 10% market share by operating system.
Andrew Everard:
JoelSim:and they are unique.
That's just branding. They're just another big, would-be world-dominating, computer company. With about 10% market share by operating system.
They have a unique operating system, they practically rule the portable music market, they have the Air, they are consistently innovative, they are the favourite of Designers and artistes worldwide. And yes they are big but they don't give the impression they are a faceless multinational even though they are.
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JoelSim:and they are unique.
That's just branding. They're just another big, would-be world-dominating, computer company. With about 10% market share by operating system.
They have a unique operating system, they practically rule the portable music market, they have the Air, they are consistently innovative, they are the favourite of Designers and artistes worldwide. And yes they are big but they don't give the impression they are a faceless multinational even though they are.
ÿ
So jolly good chaps all round then, really? That branding and the hype tactics work splendidly, don't they?
chebby
Well-known member
We have a Dell PC and a Dell laptop and an iMac 20".
Whenever it comes time to replace the iMac it will not be with another Apple. We like the iMac, simple to use, safe, nice user interface, looks good etc etc.
It's just that (even with 3 year Apple Care and regular backups) I dread the thing breaking!
Dell's 3 and 4 year agreements are 'onsite, next day' and we have tested that claim twice in the last 5 years (replacement screen and replacement power supply) and they are good to their word. The engineer - on both occasions - phoned on the evening before the visit to work out a mutually acceptable time.
If my iMac ever developed a similar problem I would have to drive it 25 miles to their nearest Apple shop and leave it with them for a repair, wait for some indeterminate period, then drive back to collect. A total of 100 miles of driving and no way of knowinghow long it will take. (Dell engineers bring the bits to your place and fix onsite if at all possible.)
Both Apple's and Dell's respective care packages cost about the same. Oh, and Dell's online technicians really know their stuff. They successfully and very patiently talked my wife - a complete technophobe - through a RAM upgrade once. The only time we ever had to phone Apple with a problem, it took 20 minutes to spell my name to them phonetically before I gave up and looked up the solution on the internet.
Moral of the story... if you have Apple make sure you have at least two (or a spare PC) just in case. The machines - well our one at least - are fine. The support sucks.
Whenever it comes time to replace the iMac it will not be with another Apple. We like the iMac, simple to use, safe, nice user interface, looks good etc etc.
It's just that (even with 3 year Apple Care and regular backups) I dread the thing breaking!
Dell's 3 and 4 year agreements are 'onsite, next day' and we have tested that claim twice in the last 5 years (replacement screen and replacement power supply) and they are good to their word. The engineer - on both occasions - phoned on the evening before the visit to work out a mutually acceptable time.
If my iMac ever developed a similar problem I would have to drive it 25 miles to their nearest Apple shop and leave it with them for a repair, wait for some indeterminate period, then drive back to collect. A total of 100 miles of driving and no way of knowinghow long it will take. (Dell engineers bring the bits to your place and fix onsite if at all possible.)
Both Apple's and Dell's respective care packages cost about the same. Oh, and Dell's online technicians really know their stuff. They successfully and very patiently talked my wife - a complete technophobe - through a RAM upgrade once. The only time we ever had to phone Apple with a problem, it took 20 minutes to spell my name to them phonetically before I gave up and looked up the solution on the internet.
Moral of the story... if you have Apple make sure you have at least two (or a spare PC) just in case. The machines - well our one at least - are fine. The support sucks.
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