Question Pioneer Pl-514 misaligned Head shell

Chris Skeats

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Hello to all ,
I have been been given the above turntable, the problem is that the head shell is not level, it is about 1mm out of square, is there any way I could adjust this with out using brute force, have tried "You tube" to no avail, would greatly appreciate any advice, to save this from the tip. It's to good to be thrown. The unit runs fine, When played sounds a bit muffled, I am hoping once the above is rectified and a good set up would give a few more years of pleasure

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Hi thank you for your reply. I have discovered that the tone arm is the problem please see pictures . If you have any recommendations it would be greatly appreciated.

Once again thank you Chriss
 

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PL514 made in 1976/1978 tonearm will be half a century old
Could be time to Retire with a modern Project/Rega/Technics

Muffled sound will be a worn/shot stylus after 50years , replace stylus or new cartridge with built in headshell

 
PL514 made in 1976/1978 tonearm will be half a century old
Could be time to Retire with a modern Project/Rega/Technics

Muffled sound will be a worn/shot stylus after 50years , replace stylus or new cartridge with built in headshell

Agreed. However if that tonearm has become twisted a replacement tonearm might be order of the day.
As it is a potential money-pit I would dump it.
 
As Doug has suggested above, or indeed a replacement headshell could be chosen with that feature. My overriding concern is how the ‘bend’ came about, because if the arm has suffered an impact then then the bearings could be damaged.

That said a conical stylus in a new cartridge from Audio Technica would be a good workaround, if you think it’s worth the investment. https://www.audio-technica.com/en-gb/cartridges/line-series/at-vm95-series/at-vm95c

I just checked and my Technics has said grub screw so I know a Technics standard headshell might work. Do you know how to check the bearings and anti-skate are working ok?
 

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As Doug has suggested above, or indeed a replacement headshell could be chosen with that feature. My overriding concern is how the ‘bend’ came about, because if the arm has suffered an impact then then the bearings could be damaged.

That said a conical stylus in a new cartridge from Audio Technica would be a good workaround, if you think it’s worth the investment. https://www.audio-technica.com/en-gb/cartridges/line-series/at-vm95-series/at-vm95c

I just checked and my Technics has said grub screw so I know a Technics standard headshell might work. Do you know how to check the bearings and anti-skate are working ok?
My initial thoughts were the tonearm may not be bent at all, just the threaded mounting collar has rotated at the headshell end. Viewed from the front it appears to have rotated counter-clockwise which could possibly indicate some heavy-handed tightening over the years 🤷‍♀️
 
My initial thoughts were the tonearm may not be bent at all, just the threaded mounting collar has rotated at the headshell end. Viewed from the front it appears to have rotated counter-clockwise which could possibly indicate some heavy-handed tightening over the years 🤷‍♀️
Good point. Hard to know when it’s that old. I’m sure it would scarcely notice in practice, as long as we aren’t trying to use fineline stylus profiles.
 
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Hello to all ,
I have been been given the above turntable, the problem is that the head shell is not level, it is about 1mm out of square, is there any way I could adjust this with out using brute force, have tried "You tube" to no avail, would greatly appreciate any advice, to save this from the tip. It's to good to be thrown. The unit runs fine, When played sounds a bit muffled, I am hoping once the above is rectified and a good set up would give a few more years of pleasure

Regards chris Skeats
i have this model not in use but i remenber when using it it had well constructed parts and with a shure cartridge it had such a good sound , i took it from the box as it was stoped maybe since 1987,about the headshel or i didn´t understand or is just a matter of putting it to the perfect position but is the headshell or the arm that makes it off the perfect position if its only the headshell buy a cheap one it will work again with perfect positionament, about mufled sound it doesn´t relate with the problem you have ,i ´ve seen older guys that never worried about this and it came from the factory like it is so never changed nothing only the stylus and belts, as the anti-skating when one works as a dj for 35 years and sincve early age worked in a radio show in a FM station that all was made by us as in, no other in the station to do nothing and you had to put it all perfect for a good sounding broadcast ,also hear music everyday and till the end of the 90´s i played records everyday since i was 12 ,the anti-skating is made by hear it stays perfect some today have a lot of tools to put every value perfect but that´s a new thing no scales on the parts of the turntable and then buy it yourself like, "in your face, you paid ,now put it right "before it was very rare to happen ,never in my like i bought a weighing scale , well not to use in the turntable but to weight some type of powder ,i was a pharmaceutical technician when military ,so i weight all since i was 25 when out of the Army(mandatory, at the time)it seems a very easy correction to do and the diference in mm, if the arm is the problem rectify it ,it´s simple if there is a metal workshop in your location but 1 mm is nothing and no new Rega tonearm will make it better maybe the cartridge is the problem , mufled sound is nothing related with the deviation of 1 mm
PL514 made in 1976/1978 tonearm will be half a century old
Could be time to Retire with a modern Project/Rega/Technics

Muffled sound will be a worn/shot stylus after 50years , replace stylus or new cartridge with built in headshell

a modern piece of...what?turntable isn´t but a proximity device with a lot of diferencies from what were turntables in it´s whole , and to have better sound you would trade a well built turntable for a pit of problems to achive the pioneer turntable quality 78/79 you would have to pay a fortune, i bought recentelly a P10 from Rega but is not like old turntables i have it since december till today it´s a very good sounding one but i could notice all diferencies from old good sounding turntables to this new wave snake oil vinyl readers aparatus, those that have 50.000€ to buy a signature turntable with all options available to reading vinyl , those are not worried with this minor problems , instead of buying a 2.000€ new turntable with aceptable cartridge it´s better to buy a new old one till 200€ and he will be satisfied for life, only my opinion , i only worked with turntables since i was 12 till today ,i´m 62. To end,
buy a better cartridge but first look for a technics 207 C cartridge or a more recent version till 79 and it will sound a lot more dynamic than spending thousands of €´s, but take a good look at the stylus there are cheaper stylus for this cartridge but i only found a good substitution needle around 100€ price in Europe, elyptical there are spherical but i think the first is better option.
Forget to say that i don´t understand with so many new turntables and cartridges that have nothing to do with real turntables like everybody used , cheap or expensive , no one in so many blogs , youtube, facebook and on-line publications no ones adresses the fact of all new turntables are not like they used to be a lot of diferencies and on top ,they cost a lot of money, if a 1.000€ pro-ject turntable with a "m ortofon cartridge was ofered to me by 100€ i wouldn´t buy it ,it doesn´t have that value in money ,if ofered i wouldn´t keep it either no space to store it and no interest in hearing horrible sound and destroying vinyl that i gathered through all my life 15.000 of them ,and i still play them because no cd player comes near the sound of vinyl of course if using this new turntables till 2.000€ i would have thrown them all in the garbage and hear only cds, that i also have thousands of them
 
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My initial thoughts were the tonearm may not be bent at all, just the threaded mounting collar has rotated at the headshell end. Viewed from the front it appears to have rotated counter-clockwise which could possibly indicate some heavy-handed tightening over the years 🤷‍♀️
Indeed.
I think overthinking is a culprit to the overlooking of a simple fault and remedy with myself included at times.

Could be as simple as twisting it back.

I've had collars on kam djay decks in the late 90s with a Tonearm Headshell Socket Connector very similar that screwed on.
If overtightened the two grub screws holding the head shell in straight alignment would slip round the tonearm resulting in a rotation of the cartridge plane.
 
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