steve_1979 said:I can't be bothered going through all of their full albums picking out the good songs because I find much of their music too boring to listen to.
manicm said:steve_1979 said:I can't be bothered going through all of their full albums picking out the good songs because I find much of their music too boring to listen to.
By failing to acknowledge that Pink Floyd, at least in their prime period from 1971-1983, were an album band, and that ALL their albums were 'concept' albums, you'll never get the essence of their music by picking individual songs. It's a futile exercise, and the greatest hits albums were put out by the labels alone - the first one in 1985 as it was clear there wasn't a new album in sight. The band all but disowned the compilations. A Pink Floyd compilation album never made any sense at all.
And from an artistic point of view all their albums were pretty much complete from Dark Side to The Final Cut, albeit the last being their least popular.
You either like the Floyd or you don't. Believe it or not they're a marmite band, at least when Waters was in it. Geldof hated them, Madonna doesn't like them, punk hated them so much they printed 'I hate Pink Floyd' t-shirts. Pink Floyd were not a band for everyone, not least because of their politics (again when Waters was in it).
manicm said:steve_1979 said:I can't be bothered going through all of their full albums picking out the good songs because I find much of their music too boring to listen to.
By failing to acknowledge that Pink Floyd, at least in their prime period from 1971-1983, were an album band, and that ALL their albums were 'concept' albums, you'll never get the essence of their music by picking individual songs. It's a futile exercise, and the greatest hits albums were put out by the labels alone - the first one in 1985 as it was clear there wasn't a new album in sight. The band all but disowned the compilations. A Pink Floyd compilation album never made any sense at all.
And from an artistic point of view all their albums were pretty much complete from Dark Side to The Final Cut, albeit the last being their least popular.
You either like the Floyd or you don't. Believe it or not they're a marmite band, at least when Waters was in it. Geldof hated them, Madonna doesn't like them, punk hated them so much they printed 'I hate Pink Floyd' t-shirts. Pink Floyd were not a band for everyone, not least because of their politics (again when Waters was in it).
lindsayt said:What tracks do you find boring?
steve_1979 said:lindsayt said:What tracks do you find boring?
Good question. Of the top of my head I can't remember so I'll get back to you on that one when I get a chance to have a listen again. Might be next weekend though.
matt49 said:Damn it, Steve, I was hoping you'd say: "all of them, it's all cloth-eared, portentous nonsense and dull as ditchwater".
emperor's new clothes said:all four were outstanding musicians with a superb sound system/PA.
jjbomber said:emperor's new clothes said:all four were outstanding musicians with a superb sound system/PA.
Rumours abound that Gilmour laid down the bass lines during the 70s as Waters playing wasn't up to standard with the new studio technology exposing his playing ability.
matt49 said:Damn it, Steve, I was hoping you'd say: "all of them, it's all cloth-eared, portentous nonsense and dull as ditchwater".
lindsayt said:So you think Animals out punks the Sex Pistols studio album? Never Mind the...
manicm said:lindsayt said:So you think Animals out punks the Sex Pistols studio album? Never Mind the...
I say that with tongue slightly in cheek - have you heard the album? It's angry, snarling, aggressive. It's when Waters' cynicism kicked in at high gear - and here in a good way.
And the artwork is just genius - I still have it on vinyl. You really have to see the full blown lp artwork.
matt49 said:Damn it, Steve, I was hoping you'd say: "all of them, it's all cloth-eared, portentous nonsense and dull as ditchwater".
I don't actually have strong feelings about PF (and I never read NME). To be fair, they're the victims of having had something approaching cult status, which rarely does anyone any favours. And they got played to death when I was in my teens. The fact that they're intelligent (which I'm not denying in general -- though I don't find anything intelligent in e.g. 'Another brick in the wall') may have worked against them. But I think what people objected to most was the excessive earnestness and humourlessness of DSOTM, which seems to me a fair charge.manicm said:Yeah you're probably drinking from NME's old kool-aid. And I don't get this cliche of the floyd. Right up to and including 1971's Meddle they were still using the fantastical Barrett template. Then in 1973 when lyrically they decided to get leave their past and get a bit more lyrically serious they're suddenly 'pretentious' and 'portentous'?? I never got that notion. And loathe the band or not Waters' lyrics from 73 to 83 were great. Thing is any NME hack now loves Wish You Were Here - in total contrast to when they critically took a hammer to the album in 1975. Today not even the harshest critic would call it a bad album. With the benefit of....
The thing is as prog rock bands go, Pink Floyd actually progressed, in stark contrast to Yes etc. Maybe people hated their intelligence. As David Gilmour once joked - at least you'll get more mileage from a 'I Hate Pink Floyd' t-shirt than a 'I Hate Yes' t-shirt.
And in 1977 their album Animals was ironically as angry and aggressive and loud as anything that came out of punk. It out-punked punk. It's as pointed as any Nirvana album.
lindsayt said:Pink Floyd? Cult status?
More like well marketed, mainstream, corporate entities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums
lindsayt said:Like skateboards were a mass craze in the late 70's early 80's. Or Top Trumps at the same period.