Panasonic TX-P46Z1 review now online
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Surely for that sort of money you could get an excellent projector (Infocus IN83), or a very good projector (IN80) and complete home cinema set-up.
The USP of this set appears to be it's completely wireless. I currently only have one wire running from my amp up to TV. That doesn't annoy me enough to go out and spend an extra £3,000 over what I paid for my TV to get rid of one wire.
Surely a better product for Panasonic to consider would be a wireless box that could be retro-fitted to existing TVs? At at decent price point, it would be a mass market product.
The USP of this set appears to be it's completely wireless. I currently only have one wire running from my amp up to TV. That doesn't annoy me enough to go out and spend an extra £3,000 over what I paid for my TV to get rid of one wire.
Surely a better product for Panasonic to consider would be a wireless box that could be retro-fitted to existing TVs? At at decent price point, it would be a mass market product.
Andy Clough:We've just uploaded our review of Panasonic's wireless HD TX-P46Z1 plasma TV. Makes interesting reading.
other reviews have said its better than a kuro , i guess its all about opinions , having said that , im sure everyone will agree that its too expensive , double the price of a kuro ??? fashion statement or not , thats just nonsence , at that price 3 stars is generous .....
other reviews have said its better than a kuro , i guess its all about opinions , having said that , im sure everyone will agree that its too expensive , double the price of a kuro ??? fashion statement or not , thats just nonsence , at that price 3 stars is generous .....
I have been waiting since xmas for the z1.now its finally here with a telephone number price tag.I mean £4300 for a plasma in these financial times its hardly priced to sell is it?I was expecting £2500-3000. think i'll looking elsewhere now although wireless would have been nice ahhhum!!!
maxflinn:
other reviews have said its better than a kuro , i guess its all about opinions
Well, opinions plus a significant time spent in a dedicated test room, simultaneously running the Z1 and the Kuro side by side from the same source
other reviews have said its better than a kuro , i guess its all about opinions
Well, opinions plus a significant time spent in a dedicated test room, simultaneously running the Z1 and the Kuro side by side from the same source
Clare Newsome:
maxflinn:
other reviews have said its better than a kuro , i guess its all about opinions
Well, opinions plus a significant time spent in a dedicated test room, simultaneously running the Z1 and the Kuro side by side from the same source
now that is interesting clare , running the two side by side like that is surely the only way to know whats what , some posts on here have said the z1 is priced so high because its a cutting edge concept , bla ,bla bla , i disagree , its a tv , and if it isnt as good as the best one , and is twice the price , then only people with more money than sense will buy one , and they are getting as hard to find as a kuro ...
maxflinn:
other reviews have said its better than a kuro , i guess its all about opinions
Well, opinions plus a significant time spent in a dedicated test room, simultaneously running the Z1 and the Kuro side by side from the same source
now that is interesting clare , running the two side by side like that is surely the only way to know whats what , some posts on here have said the z1 is priced so high because its a cutting edge concept , bla ,bla bla , i disagree , its a tv , and if it isnt as good as the best one , and is twice the price , then only people with more money than sense will buy one , and they are getting as hard to find as a kuro ...
just read that review again , i think its a great idea to have a kuro next to other high end sets as a picture quality guide , and a must when testing tvs costing this much , other sites may print more techie stuff , gamma , , colour chart , etc , etc , which most people dont understand ,and may say this set is better than that , but this side by side comparism has only been done here as far as i can see , its hard to ignore the findings of all of you guys in a match up like this , even if i wanted to love this tv , if it cant beat a kuro , it aint good enough ....
maxflinn:just read that review again , i think its a great idea to have a kuro next to other high end sets as a picture quality guide , and a must when testing tvs costing this much , other sites may print more techie stuff , gamma , , colour chart , etc , etc , which most people dont understand ,and may say this set is better than that , but this side by side comparism has only been done here as far as i can see , its hard to ignore the findings of all of you guys in a match up like this , even if i wanted to love this tv , if it cant beat a kuro , it aint good enough ....
Those 'other' reviews you mention that get techie also have a Kuro as a reference screen IIRC they often mention it as a comparison.
Those 'other' reviews you mention that get techie also have a Kuro as a reference screen IIRC they often mention it as a comparison.
David Fuller:
maxflinn:just read that review again , i think its a great idea to have a kuro next to other high end sets as a picture quality guide , and a must when testing tvs costing this much , other sites may print more techie stuff , gamma , , colour chart , etc , etc , which most people dont understand ,and may say this set is better than that , but this side by side comparism has only been done here as far as i can see , its hard to ignore the findings of all of you guys in a match up like this , even if i wanted to love this tv , if it cant beat a kuro , it aint good enough ....
Those 'other' reviews you mention that get techie also have a Kuro as a reference screen IIRC they often mention it as a comparison.
yes they use a kuro as a reference set , but as far as i can make out they dont test them side by side with the same source , correct me if im wrong ..
maxflinn:just read that review again , i think its a great idea to have a kuro next to other high end sets as a picture quality guide , and a must when testing tvs costing this much , other sites may print more techie stuff , gamma , , colour chart , etc , etc , which most people dont understand ,and may say this set is better than that , but this side by side comparism has only been done here as far as i can see , its hard to ignore the findings of all of you guys in a match up like this , even if i wanted to love this tv , if it cant beat a kuro , it aint good enough ....
Those 'other' reviews you mention that get techie also have a Kuro as a reference screen IIRC they often mention it as a comparison.
yes they use a kuro as a reference set , but as far as i can make out they dont test them side by side with the same source , correct me if im wrong ..
maxflinn:David Fuller:
maxflinn:just read that review again , i think its a great idea to have a kuro next to other high end sets as a picture quality guide , and a must when testing tvs costing this much , other sites may print more techie stuff , gamma , , colour chart , etc , etc , which most people dont understand ,and may say this set is better than that , but this side by side comparism has only been done here as far as i can see , its hard to ignore the findings of all of you guys in a match up like this , even if i wanted to love this tv , if it cant beat a kuro , it aint good enough ....
Those 'other' reviews you mention that get techie also have a Kuro as a reference screen IIRC they often mention it as a comparison.
yes they use a kuro as a reference set , but as far as i can make out they dont test them side by side with the same source , correct me if im wrong ..
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maxflinn:just read that review again , i think its a great idea to have a kuro next to other high end sets as a picture quality guide , and a must when testing tvs costing this much , other sites may print more techie stuff , gamma , , colour chart , etc , etc , which most people dont understand ,and may say this set is better than that , but this side by side comparism has only been done here as far as i can see , its hard to ignore the findings of all of you guys in a match up like this , even if i wanted to love this tv , if it cant beat a kuro , it aint good enough ....
Those 'other' reviews you mention that get techie also have a Kuro as a reference screen IIRC they often mention it as a comparison.
yes they use a kuro as a reference set , but as far as i can make out they dont test them side by side with the same source , correct me if im wrong ..
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im not sure too many people want to be told what to buy ? ok many like myself wont understand certain aspects of very detailed tv reviews , but you can never have too much information for some , its up to an individual to do their homework ,and make their choices , i along with others commented that whfis panny v10 review seemed a bit short compared to many , i guess they have their own style of review , but their z1 review was better in my opinion because they directly compared to the kuro , not from memory , but from having them side by side ,(maybe they always do this ) if panasonic want £4300 for the z1 it should be better than a tv costing £2200 . ive just read reviews of the v10 and g10, and looked at a video review where they say the g10 v10 and z1 only differ on spec , in other words the z1 is a g10 with a shiny silver shell and a wireless receiver , which i reckon they value at £3000 , if you do the maths , i have a panasonic plasma which is great , and the g10 and maybe v10 are great value , but £3000 for options in a recession ??? maybe if it was a porsche
David Fuller:maxflinn:
correct me if im wrong ..
It's side by side.
the site you mentioned have yet to review the z1 , and there was no mention in their v10 review that a kuro was "side by side " to it ???
correct me if im wrong ..
It's side by side.
the site you mentioned have yet to review the z1 , and there was no mention in their v10 review that a kuro was "side by side " to it ???
Andrew Everard:Your source of information being...?
It's in a few of their reviews, mentions running whatever TV side by side with a kuro. I think the guy has posted a few times on their forums as well that it's part of their testing methods.
It's in a few of their reviews, mentions running whatever TV side by side with a kuro. I think the guy has posted a few times on their forums as well that it's part of their testing methods.
Ah right - just that there seemed to be some dispute from other posters that this had been stated. Thanks for the clarification.
From the review, it sounds like a huge disappointment even if it was priced similarly to a Kuro. I was thinking that this could have been a Kuro beater but apparently Panasonic wasn't able to get a hold of any Kuro technology before Pioneer pulled the plug. Why doesn't Pioneer just SELL the Kuro technology to someone else rather than just letting it die?
seakingadvice:From the review, it sounds like a huge disappointment even if it was priced similarly to a Kuro. I was thinking that this could have been a Kuro beater but apparently Panasonic wasn't able to get a hold of any Kuro technology before Pioneer pulled the plug. Why doesn't Pioneer just SELL the Kuro technology to someone else rather than just letting it die?i suppose you would have to question how much better can hdtvs get using current technology ? even my low range panny plasma looks brilliant with hd ,improvements are so small , maybe until oled becomes affordable the kuro will remain the best ? i mean , a mobile phone is just a phone right ? maybe to my granny , but for most its also a camera , , e.mail checker , etc , etc , but id bet phone makers have had the tech thats on current phones for 4 or 5 years , they just tease it out over time , keeping us hungry for the latest little extras , thus raking in the dough , its the same with tvs at the moment , widgets , dongles , wifi ,its all been available on laptops for years , most of the investment in tv tech is going into oled now , why would anyone bother spending money on improving a soon to be redundant technology ? were just being asked to buy style over substance at the moment , while the likes of sony , samsung and the rest figure out the best way to drip feed us oled for the next ten years ... sad but true me thinks ...
It's all about the UE46B8000/9000 this year. It truly lives up to quality, great visuals and a fatastic build.
Can WHF please please please make a note of the settings they use when they test the TV. The internet is itching to know what the best settingss are for movie mode and game mode.
Can WHF please please please make a note of the settings they use when they test the TV. The internet is itching to know what the best settingss are for movie mode and game mode.
Andrew Everard:S'all a conspiracy, innit? And are these giant corporations run by grey lizard-people?
MAARLEEEEENE, and yes , sir alan lookalikes
MAARLEEEEENE, and yes , sir alan lookalikes
Andrew Everard:S'all a conspiracy, innit? And are these giant corporations run by grey lizard-people?
I think it's called "managing/lengthening the product life cycle" - not a new concept and literally every corporation has been doing it for years...
I think it's called "managing/lengthening the product life cycle" - not a new concept and literally every corporation has been doing it for years...
Knowing as I do people who work for mobile phone companies, I have to say that while the basics of what current phones can do have been understood for a while, in a current competitive market the companies strive to deliver everything possible as soon as possible, before one of their rivals does.
It's the same in most areas of consumer electronics, and in TVs in particular the product cycles are shortening, not lengthening.
It's the same in most areas of consumer electronics, and in TVs in particular the product cycles are shortening, not lengthening.
professorhat
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No, technology is all controlled by a secret government agency, who gradually roll out the technologies they discovered from aliens at the Roswell landings.
Haven't you guys seen the documentary Men in Black?!
Haven't you guys seen the documentary Men in Black?!
Andrew Everard:
Knowing as I do people who work for mobile phone companies, I have to say that while the basics of what current phones can do have been understood for a while, in a current competitive market the companies strive to deliver everything possible as soon as possible, before one of their rivals does.
It's the same in most areas of consumer electronics, and in TVs in particular the product cycles are shortening, not lengthening.
well , phones dont cost the earth anyway , and i dont need my arm twisted to buy the latest one , with its xtras , a little treat from time to time , i think tvs are in a crossover period , hopefully the release of the first mainstream batch of oleds will coincide with an improvement in the economy , and yes , we will be drip fed , but if theres money around we wont mind
Knowing as I do people who work for mobile phone companies, I have to say that while the basics of what current phones can do have been understood for a while, in a current competitive market the companies strive to deliver everything possible as soon as possible, before one of their rivals does.
It's the same in most areas of consumer electronics, and in TVs in particular the product cycles are shortening, not lengthening.
well , phones dont cost the earth anyway , and i dont need my arm twisted to buy the latest one , with its xtras , a little treat from time to time , i think tvs are in a crossover period , hopefully the release of the first mainstream batch of oleds will coincide with an improvement in the economy , and yes , we will be drip fed , but if theres money around we wont mind
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