non led lcds , better blacks now , but better detail in dark scenes ??

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i ask this having had two lcds in the last month , a philips 37pfl5604 and a samsung 46b650 , they both surprised me with their solid blacks , thats certainly a benefit , and does improve the picture quality , but when watching a really dark scene in a movie , even a bluray , i still dont see as much detail as i do watching dark scenes with a plasma , you can see many different shades of black in the same scene with a good plasma , giving greater insight , actually being able to see more of the image onscreen , given that there are dark scenes in most movies , i wonder why plasmas are not winning more of whfis supertests ? the lcds may be a touch sharper , and show a little more detail in normal , daylight scenes , but its not like you miss out on anything with a plasma in those scenes ? i noticed the 42v10 panny only got 4 stars in a recent review , a minus against it being a small lack of fine detail vs the best of its rivals , surely more lcds should lose a star against the best of their plama rivals for the same , maybe more , lack of detail in dark scenes ??

any thoughts ??

 

[bigboss]

It's not as straightforward as that. The main reason the 42V10 loses a star is because of its pound per value. If it was £100-£150 cheaper, it would've got 5 stars.

The forerunner in plasma TVs is the Panasonic, & the latest series have not managed to please the What Hi-Fi team.

It's not true that plasmas are not winning. The coveted 50" TV crown has gone to a plasma.

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry this is a little off the mark and I harp on about it constantly but black reproduction lacks all manner of detail on an LCD. I am still using my Wega Trinitron but also have a small screen Bravia and I can honestly say that CRT provides a richness and depth (not just deep blacks) that is simply not there on the lcd. Lcd black just seems to be well 'kinda black' with no substance...it struggles to produce shades of black if you get my meaning. I'm sure Plasma blacks are far more detailed.

 

[Anonymous]

bigboss:
It's not as straightforward as that. The main reason the 42V10 loses a star is because of its pound per value. If it was £100-£150 cheaper, it would've got 5 stars.

The forerunner in plasma TVs is the Panasonic, & the latest series have not managed to please the What Hi-Fi team.

It's not true that plasmas are not winning. The coveted 50" TV crown has gone to a plasma.

i guess some reviewers value different things more than others in a tv , ive read many reviews of the v10 , and 2 of them state it is (in their opinion) the closest to the kuro in terms of general picture quality , and the best tv reviewed this year , i wonder which tv would show the most detail in a murky movie like "alien vs predator , requiem" the £1500 philips 42pfl9664 , a 5 star tv , or the £1000 , 42v10 , only 4 stars at the time it was £1500 ???

 

[ear]

that philips you had didnt have much shasow detail. same applies further up to the 9664.the 9803 is a different story.the b650 has better blacksbut i find it has less shadow detail than the 5 series samsung.the sony's have good shadow detail , much better than the philips.trust me

 

[Anonymous]

shadow detail may well vary as you say between the lcds mentioned ear , i dont doubt it , but can any non led lcd display the same detail as a v10 in dark scenes ?? if not , i cant figure out why the v10 lost a star because of (allegedly) price , and a fractional lack of detail in non dark scenes , and the 9664 didnt lose a star for an apparent lack of detail against its competitors (v10 , same size , same price) in dark scenes ... unless of course it is as good as the best plasmas in dark scenes , which brings me back to the original subject ...

 

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[ear]

havent seen the V but seen the G series many times . I actually prefer the black detail on the sony W to the G series

 

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