New HiFi developments that have caught your interest.

Jasonovich

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I like the modular concept that Cayin has introduced on their DAP, this allows you to upgrade the DAP amplifier in an instance. Better still, if you had a proper standard that was interchangeable with other DAPs from different brands.

Extending the concept further outside the DAP stratosphere, I wish future mainstream HiFi amplifiers will have this feature, you can just slide out the motherboard and replace it with another. Pretty neat.

I don't think it is too far fetch, modularity exists in desktop PCs, many of us who build PCs understand the versatility and standards that are universal and it saves costs.
Kudos to Cayin for coming up with this innovating feature.

Have you seen new HiFi developments that have caught your interest, any similar examples of; as per Cayin, or a feature in HiFi that you wish could be improved or replaced with something better?

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NAD has been big on the modular concept for a while and it doesn't seem like it's been much of a boon. Conceptually it's elegant, but most enhancements these days seem to be in firmware; if the manufacturer has a good firmware upgrade policy, and they actually provide enhanced features over time, then I'm a buyer. The modular just seems like it adds a design cost that's passed on to the consumer that I'll never use: by the time I'm ready for an upgraded component I'll probably be ready for a whole new device.

That said, I have one exception - ports for mobile devices. I'd love to be able to snap on a new set of ports as they become unstable from use over time.
 
I can’t think of a single Hifi product that bragged about modularity, who actually developed the modules beyond the launch versions. It seems to me to be more of an excuse to launch a product before you’ve really finished developing it!

Maybe Linn just about qualifies with their Selekt streamer, but their non-modular Akurate and Klimax models were still upgradeable. Bizarrely, after 50 years of “Trigger’s Broom” #, they even say the LP12 is modular, when it’s really just a few bits screwed together that can be tinkered with!

My ancient MLP Meridian was never developed, and was soon replaced by a newer range.

Primare had plug in streaming and DAC modules but again they were superseded but boxes that couldn’t fit. There is a newer DAC to be fair.

Another new turntable claims it’s modular too, is it from VPI? https://www.whathifi.com/news/vpis-new-turntable-has-a-modular-design-for-easy-upgradeability

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I can’t think of a single Hifi product that bragged about modularity, who actually developed the modules beyond the launch versions. It seems to me to be more of an excuse to launch a product before you’ve really finished developing it!

Maybe Linn just about qualifies with their Selekt streamer, but their non-modular Akurate and Klimax models were still upgradeable. Bizarrely, after 50 years of “Trigger’s Broom” #, they even say the LP12 is modular, when it’s really just a few bits screwed together that can be tinkered with!

My ancient MLP Meridian was never developed, and was soon replaced by a newer range.

Primare had plug in streaming and DAC modules but again they were superseded but boxes that couldn’t fit. There is a newer DAC to be fair.

Another new turntable claims it’s modular too, is it from VPI? https://www.whathifi.com/news/vpis-new-turntable-has-a-modular-design-for-easy-upgradeability

#For international readers…
View: https://youtu.be/BUl6PooveJE?si=DgoPkEiiv1FmRQIF
Modular on issue may have it's place, handy if you're never going to need a built in phono stage or DAC but unlikely to actually save you much money, also don't expect any future upgrades.
the LP 12 wasn't modular, it was an excuse to throw out a turntable that was functional but really required you to add more expensive bits to bring it up to spec and this is really what it's about, selling you expensive parts for years to come. :cool:
 

twinkletoes

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Modularity has been a thing since the 90s Cyrus spring to mind but I have never seen any of these boards made thing of. In practice a very good idea but ultimately they want to sell you a whole product not a board.

It’s the same with fpga’s, infinitely reprogrammable and I think it’s only ps audio that actually gives “firmware” updates for these types of dac chips.

I don’t think there’s really been any real product innovations in the last 20 years nothing like back in the in the day, like Walkmans for example.
 
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Noddy

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I don’t think there’s really been any real product innovations in the last 20 years nothing like back in the in the day, like Walkmans for example.
From where I am sitting the changes have been massive. I can stream almost any music I want in realtime to my hifi, or to my portable phone. I can wear headphones that play that music without a wire connecting the headphones to the phone or the streaming device. When I take the headphones off, the music automatically stops. When I wear the headphones, almost all external music is eliminated by some heathen magickery in the headphones.

If I want to find out about Melt Banana, I can search online and in seconds know their background. I can find the lyrics and have them translated into English. Over the last day or two I have listened to Melt Banana (Japanese), Rammstein (German), Jean Leloup (French Canadian), Siena Root (Swedish), Dans Dans (Belgian), Ultra Vomit (French), 35007 (Dutch), Hawkwind (English), 13th Floor Elevators (American), Testament (American), Swans (American) and other bands. I have never had such incredible access to music, both well known and obscure.

Forty years ago I was using a huge supercomuter in San Diego that cost millions of dollars. Today I have a phone that has much more computing power than the entire supercomputer.

What we have today is incredible. When I was young (adopts a Yorkshire accent), we had a phone screwed to a wall, with a line shared with our neighbours. I had to go into town, and enter a shop to browse theough a small selection of music recorded on flat plastic disks with grooves in the surface. Finding out about new music was almost impossible. The radio DJ John Peel was one of the few people to go outside the bland mainstream.

And yet we produce so much, and throw away so much, each year that I worry for the environment and our future.
 

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