batonwielder said:
insider9 said:
batonwielder said:
insider9 said:
batonwielder said:
Dali Zensor's are bright but no punch. Marantz you will hate. Wharfedale can sound too warm. Sounds like you need something along the lines of Rotel, B&W, and Monitor Audio. Focal is terrific value as well.
I've owned and heard quite a few DALI speakers from mid nineties to modern designs and punch is just about the first thing that comes to mind when describing their sound.
How bad of an amp pairing did you listen to come to that opinion.
Naim Supernait 2, Rega Elex-R, and etc...Really bad amps I guess...
If you have a look I actually said "bad amp pairing". It really makes no difference how good of an amp is in isolation if it doesn't work with speakers.
If you read carefully, my comments were limited to the Dali Zensor's that I've heard. If you read really carefully, I merely stated the names of the amps they were played with. You made a judgment before reading my comments, unless that was actually a question. And if it was, my answer wasn't an invitation for you to opine about the pairing. So, for you, it really makes no difference how good of an amp is in isolation whether it works well with speakers or not. If you would like to leave a constructive comment about what amplifiers work great with the Dali's (the one's you've heard), please feel free. It's still not what the OP was asking, but I'm sure you would like to get it out.
I think we got off on the wrong foot. I did read your every comment before posting carefully. You said DALI "no punch". And there was no ill will although and a bit of surprise. Whereas I see how they may sound bright in some setups, no punch is a strange thing to say in any setup imho. This is the last thing I would expect from Dali hence I mentioned amp pairing. Zensor 3 for instance sounds dreadful with budget Marantz and Cambridge gear but it's not to do with punch.
Here are some for OP
Zensor - Onkyo A9010, Primare A30.1, NAD C320BEE
Opticon range - Hegel Rost and so I was told Yamaha AS2100, A3000 (not hear them with Yamahas)
Epicon - Arcam (not sure of model it as AVR circa £3k)
104 - not heard it sound bad on any gear I've tried for lowly Sony DB-930 to Pass Labs X30.8 or Music First V2 + Icon Audio MB845 MK2
Same goes to DALI Concept 6. Sounded at least good on any gear I've tried.
As to being constructive and making a judgement. OP asked for an advice on a setup, that's pairing. So I'm not sure comments "DALI are bright and no punch" is constructive. If you don't mention the pairing it's just putting off form otherwise enjoyable brand.
This is a forum after all and it's fine to voice your opinion. But I didn't know any invite is necessary to comment. But consider is what you wrote constructive #11? I read your comment #16 and it's clear you misunderstood my point. That's what I was trying to clarify.
And for clarity, I don't know you and don't appreciate being told I need to get something out. If you'd like to discuss Hifi I'm all in but personal digs like that aren't welcome. Particularly as I've been respectful towards both you and your opinion.