I am waiting for the Denon DBP 1611 to be released, and after speaking to Denon again think I should wait until a couple of mounts after its release to buy one. They said they are having to change manufacture after there original one went bust, I'm worried that they may have some teething problems and I do not want to be the one with the pain. Anyway this leaves me with no birthday present (I can see you all shedding tears for me) I was thinking about getting a pair of MA R270 HD, I really want some floor-standing speakers and these look very nice, and a bonus the wife likes them as well. I would have to use them with my Keffs until around January then I could buy a MA R250HD for the center and then hopefully keep my Keffs for the rear and keep my KUBE 1 for my sub. I don't want to upgrade my amp as I like the way the Sony performs well at the top of the scale. Dose this sound like a good plan and has anybody had any experience with these speakers? Thanks Dean
Monitor Audio R270 HD
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bigboss
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Monitor Audio Radius HD speakers are superb, & I have demoed your combination. But your Sony amp will not do justice to them. The speakers will never achieve their full potential. Demo the speakers with a Yamaha RX-V2067 or Denon 3311 & you'll know what I mean.
Personally, I'll put more money on the amp, even if it means going for a Sony S370 instead of a Denon. After buying the MA Radius HD speakers & the Denon 1611, your amp will be the weakest link.
Personally, I'll put more money on the amp, even if it means going for a Sony S370 instead of a Denon. After buying the MA Radius HD speakers & the Denon 1611, your amp will be the weakest link.
bigboss
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bigboss:
Monitor Audio Radius HD speakers are superb, & I have demoed your combination. But your Sony amp will not do justice to them. They speakers will never achieve their full potential. Demo the speakers with a Yamaha RX-V2067 or Denon 3311 & you'll know what I mean.
I know what your saying bigboss but I can not afford a amp upgrade yet (me and the wife set s budget for each outer a 100 a month to spend on what we like after I was buying 3 or 4 Blu-rays a week) I should see a big difference from my keffs though shouldn't I?
Dean
Monitor Audio Radius HD speakers are superb, & I have demoed your combination. But your Sony amp will not do justice to them. They speakers will never achieve their full potential. Demo the speakers with a Yamaha RX-V2067 or Denon 3311 & you'll know what I mean.
I know what your saying bigboss but I can not afford a amp upgrade yet (me and the wife set s budget for each outer a 100 a month to spend on what we like after I was buying 3 or 4 Blu-rays a week) I should see a big difference from my keffs though shouldn't I?
Dean
bigboss:Also, I hope your sub is a stop gap before you upgrade it at some point in the near future.
What do you mean stop gap??
Sorry see what you mean. I've only just bought this kit in Feb so need to do it slowly or the wife will go ape you know what I mean" you have only just bought this" & " what's wrong with this one" so I'm hoping I will upgrade in the future but got to make a start some where and always wanted floor speakers.
What do you mean stop gap??
Sorry see what you mean. I've only just bought this kit in Feb so need to do it slowly or the wife will go ape you know what I mean" you have only just bought this" & " what's wrong with this one" so I'm hoping I will upgrade in the future but got to make a start some where and always wanted floor speakers.
bigboss
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MUSICRAFT
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Hi Dean
Monitor Audio's Radius HD series is superb. The R270HD's and R250HD will work well with your amp and you'll also get more from them if you decide to change your amp later on.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Monitor Audio's Radius HD series is superb. The R270HD's and R250HD will work well with your amp and you'll also get more from them if you decide to change your amp later on.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
bigboss:I mean there are plans in the pipeline to upgrade your sub in the near future.
Sorry was just editing my post look up...
Sorry was just editing my post look up...
bigboss
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dirtydean: I know what your saying bigboss but I can not afford a amp upgrade yet (me and the wife set s budget for each outer a 100 a month to spend on what we like after I was buying 3 or 4 Blu-rays a week) I should see a big difference from my keffs though shouldn't I? Dean
You should see a definite advantage over the KEFs, not sure if it's going to be a big difference because I haven't personally compared the two. All I'm saying is, your Sony amp will limit the full potential of your Monitor Audio speakers. I'll probably save up for a better receiver next year or so by opting for a Sony S370 instead of Denon 1611. I don't see much point in buying a blu-ray player which is more expensive than the receiver.
Well, at least you know what's on your shopping list for next year
You should see a definite advantage over the KEFs, not sure if it's going to be a big difference because I haven't personally compared the two. All I'm saying is, your Sony amp will limit the full potential of your Monitor Audio speakers. I'll probably save up for a better receiver next year or so by opting for a Sony S370 instead of Denon 1611. I don't see much point in buying a blu-ray player which is more expensive than the receiver.
Well, at least you know what's on your shopping list for next year
MUSICRAFT:
Hi Dean
Monitor Audio's Radius HD series is superb. The R270HD's and R250HD will work well with your amp and you'll also get more from them if you decide to change your amp later on.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks do you think my Keffs will be ok at the rear? But I prob will buy the 90hds in the future.
Dean
Hi Dean
Monitor Audio's Radius HD series is superb. The R270HD's and R250HD will work well with your amp and you'll also get more from them if you decide to change your amp later on.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks do you think my Keffs will be ok at the rear? But I prob will buy the 90hds in the future.
Dean
bigboss:
dirtydean: I know what your saying bigboss but I can not afford a amp upgrade yet (me and the wife set s budget for each outer a 100 a month to spend on what we like after I was buying 3 or 4 Blu-rays a week) I should see a big difference from my keffs though shouldn't I? Dean
You should see a definite advantage over the KEFs, not sure if it's going to be a big difference because I haven't personally compared the two. All I'm saying is, your Sony amp will limit the full potential of your Monitor Audio speakers. I'll probably save up for a better receiver next year or so by opting for a Sony S370 instead of Denon 1611. I don't see much point in buying a blu-ray player which is more expensive than the receiver.
Well, at least you know what's on your shopping list for next year
Sorry should have explained myself better I want the Denon for sacd as well. I like my classical music and want to start buying sacd's as well.
Dean
dirtydean: I know what your saying bigboss but I can not afford a amp upgrade yet (me and the wife set s budget for each outer a 100 a month to spend on what we like after I was buying 3 or 4 Blu-rays a week) I should see a big difference from my keffs though shouldn't I? Dean
You should see a definite advantage over the KEFs, not sure if it's going to be a big difference because I haven't personally compared the two. All I'm saying is, your Sony amp will limit the full potential of your Monitor Audio speakers. I'll probably save up for a better receiver next year or so by opting for a Sony S370 instead of Denon 1611. I don't see much point in buying a blu-ray player which is more expensive than the receiver.
Well, at least you know what's on your shopping list for next year
Sorry should have explained myself better I want the Denon for sacd as well. I like my classical music and want to start buying sacd's as well.
Dean
MUSICRAFT
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dirtydean:MUSICRAFT:
Hi Dean
Monitor Audio's Radius HD series is superb. The R270HD's and R250HD will work well with your amp and you'll also get more from them if you decide to change your amp later on.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks do you think my Keffs will be ok at the rear? But I prob will buy the 90hds in the future.
Dean
Hi Dean
Yes, your KEF's will be fine for surrounds. Adding the R90HD's later on will help them gel superbly with the fronts. Btw, as bigboss has also mentioned i feel the icing on the cake for the main Radius HD speakers will be a change of sub. The R360HD or R370HD are worth considering. Anyway the main thing is these changes can be done over time.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Hi Dean
Monitor Audio's Radius HD series is superb. The R270HD's and R250HD will work well with your amp and you'll also get more from them if you decide to change your amp later on.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks do you think my Keffs will be ok at the rear? But I prob will buy the 90hds in the future.
Dean
Hi Dean
Yes, your KEF's will be fine for surrounds. Adding the R90HD's later on will help them gel superbly with the fronts. Btw, as bigboss has also mentioned i feel the icing on the cake for the main Radius HD speakers will be a change of sub. The R360HD or R370HD are worth considering. Anyway the main thing is these changes can be done over time.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
MUSICRAFT:dirtydean:MUSICRAFT:
Hi Dean
Monitor Audio's Radius HD series is superb. The R270HD's and R250HD will work well with your amp and you'll also get more from them if you decide to change your amp later on.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks do you think my Keffs will be ok at the rear? But I prob will buy the 90hds in the future.
Dean
Hi Dean
Yes, your KEF's will be fine for surrounds. Adding the R90HD's later on will help them gel superbly with the fronts. Btw, as bigboss has also mentioned i feel the icing on the cake for the main Radius HD speakers will be a change of sub. The R360HD or R370HD are worth considering. Anyway the main thing is these changes can be done over time.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks, I must be sad I am getting so excited keep looking on the MA web site, I feel like a kid at Christmas...
Dean
Hi Dean
Monitor Audio's Radius HD series is superb. The R270HD's and R250HD will work well with your amp and you'll also get more from them if you decide to change your amp later on.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks do you think my Keffs will be ok at the rear? But I prob will buy the 90hds in the future.
Dean
Hi Dean
Yes, your KEF's will be fine for surrounds. Adding the R90HD's later on will help them gel superbly with the fronts. Btw, as bigboss has also mentioned i feel the icing on the cake for the main Radius HD speakers will be a change of sub. The R360HD or R370HD are worth considering. Anyway the main thing is these changes can be done over time.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks, I must be sad I am getting so excited keep looking on the MA web site, I feel like a kid at Christmas...
Dean
Hi,
I have the MA R225HD for centre/left/right with R90HDs for surounds, driven by Denon 1910, its a pretty sweet combination.. my sub is RSW12. I am toying with the idea of upgrading the amp to a 2311 but its down the line when money allows! My brother as the 250s for left/centre/right with r180s for surrounds and its amazing.. he's using a 1909 i picked up for him second hand.. there really is a step up with the 250s but i couldnt possibly fit them in my room
just in relation to using a Sony Receiver.. some would say they would be to 'bright' to go with the Monitor Audios.. i was recommended Denon when I went looking..
Cheers,
Mick
I have the MA R225HD for centre/left/right with R90HDs for surounds, driven by Denon 1910, its a pretty sweet combination.. my sub is RSW12. I am toying with the idea of upgrading the amp to a 2311 but its down the line when money allows! My brother as the 250s for left/centre/right with r180s for surrounds and its amazing.. he's using a 1909 i picked up for him second hand.. there really is a step up with the 250s but i couldnt possibly fit them in my room
just in relation to using a Sony Receiver.. some would say they would be to 'bright' to go with the Monitor Audios.. i was recommended Denon when I went looking..
Cheers,
Mick
bigboss
Moderator
bigboss:
dirtydean: I want the Denon for sacd as well. I like my classical music and want to start buying sacd's as well. Dean
Well, the Sony S370 plays SACDs as well.
Thanks bigboss this seems to have slipped the net while looking on the net. I will have a look at it, just don't want to buy then want to upgrade in a few months again... will this be a good SACD player? I know they are liked for blu-rays players.
Dean
dirtydean: I want the Denon for sacd as well. I like my classical music and want to start buying sacd's as well. Dean
Well, the Sony S370 plays SACDs as well.
Thanks bigboss this seems to have slipped the net while looking on the net. I will have a look at it, just don't want to buy then want to upgrade in a few months again... will this be a good SACD player? I know they are liked for blu-rays players.
Dean
bigboss
Moderator
WHF has praised its audio performance in its review.
Talented with sound too
The 'S370's talents extend to sound performance, too. The Sony edges out other players for outright resolution, but of greater significance is that it provides a wonderfully balanced, focused sound.
Whether listening to Faithless on SACD or the Gorillaz on CD, the Sony's extra insight and excellent timing ensures you're thoroughly entertained.
The thing is, an AV receiver is the heart of any home cinema system. You won't appreciate the full potential of a blu-ray player or speakers if the receiver is the weak link.
If you're visiting the Manchester Sound & Vision show, it'll be a good place to check out the audio performance of both players.
Talented with sound too
The 'S370's talents extend to sound performance, too. The Sony edges out other players for outright resolution, but of greater significance is that it provides a wonderfully balanced, focused sound.
Whether listening to Faithless on SACD or the Gorillaz on CD, the Sony's extra insight and excellent timing ensures you're thoroughly entertained.
The thing is, an AV receiver is the heart of any home cinema system. You won't appreciate the full potential of a blu-ray player or speakers if the receiver is the weak link.
If you're visiting the Manchester Sound & Vision show, it'll be a good place to check out the audio performance of both players.
bigboss:
WHF has praised its audio performance in its review.
Talented with sound too
The 'S370's talents extend to sound performance, too. The Sony edges out other players for outright resolution, but of greater significance is that it provides a wonderfully balanced, focused sound.
Whether listening to Faithless on SACD or the Gorillaz on CD, the Sony's extra insight and excellent timing ensures you're thoroughly entertained.
The thing is, an AV receiver is the heart of any home cinema system. You won't appreciate the full potential of a blu-ray player or speakers if the receiver is the weak link.
If you're visiting the Manchester Sound & Vision show, it'll be a good place to check out the audio performance of both players.
When I spoke to Denon they said they don't think the Denon will be there or anywhere till early next year. I Canceled my order today for the Denon and ordered my MA R270 HDs ill have abit of time to make my mind up on the player. I will be going to the show looking forward to it, I'm going to take my 7 year old son, he said he's having speakers like mine but louder in his bedroom, good lad, ill let him dream abit more...
Dean
WHF has praised its audio performance in its review.
Talented with sound too
The 'S370's talents extend to sound performance, too. The Sony edges out other players for outright resolution, but of greater significance is that it provides a wonderfully balanced, focused sound.
Whether listening to Faithless on SACD or the Gorillaz on CD, the Sony's extra insight and excellent timing ensures you're thoroughly entertained.
The thing is, an AV receiver is the heart of any home cinema system. You won't appreciate the full potential of a blu-ray player or speakers if the receiver is the weak link.
If you're visiting the Manchester Sound & Vision show, it'll be a good place to check out the audio performance of both players.
When I spoke to Denon they said they don't think the Denon will be there or anywhere till early next year. I Canceled my order today for the Denon and ordered my MA R270 HDs ill have abit of time to make my mind up on the player. I will be going to the show looking forward to it, I'm going to take my 7 year old son, he said he's having speakers like mine but louder in his bedroom, good lad, ill let him dream abit more...
Dean
bigboss
Moderator
micks_address:
I have the MA R225HD for centre/left/right with R90HDs for surounds, driven by Denon 1910, its a pretty sweet combination.. my sub is RSW12. I am toying with the idea of upgrading the amp to a 2311 but its down the line when money allows! My brother as the 250s for left/centre/right with r180s for surrounds and its amazing.. he's using a 1909 i picked up for him second hand.. there really is a step up with the 250s but i couldnt possibly fit them in my room
MA 225HD & 250HD employ exactly the same driver. A slightly bigger cabinet of the 250HD gives it a bit more bass. But if you have a good subwoofer, this advantage is negated. This is exactly the reason why I cancelled my 250HD & went for 225HD (aesthetics was not important for me because the speakers were being housed in a cabinet in any case). There was absolutely no difference in performance when I compared the two......saved myself £75 in the process!
According to Monitor Audio website,
"The R250HD employs the R225HD's driver configuration in a longer cabinet and extra port providing the enhanced bass performance that makes it a desirable space efficient hi-fi satellite for any room."
In fact, MA R225HD, R250HD & R270HD all share exactly the same driver. Bigger the cabinet, better the bass. Again, as I said, this advantage is completely negated with a good subwoofer.
I have the MA R225HD for centre/left/right with R90HDs for surounds, driven by Denon 1910, its a pretty sweet combination.. my sub is RSW12. I am toying with the idea of upgrading the amp to a 2311 but its down the line when money allows! My brother as the 250s for left/centre/right with r180s for surrounds and its amazing.. he's using a 1909 i picked up for him second hand.. there really is a step up with the 250s but i couldnt possibly fit them in my room
MA 225HD & 250HD employ exactly the same driver. A slightly bigger cabinet of the 250HD gives it a bit more bass. But if you have a good subwoofer, this advantage is negated. This is exactly the reason why I cancelled my 250HD & went for 225HD (aesthetics was not important for me because the speakers were being housed in a cabinet in any case). There was absolutely no difference in performance when I compared the two......saved myself £75 in the process!
According to Monitor Audio website,
"The R250HD employs the R225HD's driver configuration in a longer cabinet and extra port providing the enhanced bass performance that makes it a desirable space efficient hi-fi satellite for any room."
In fact, MA R225HD, R250HD & R270HD all share exactly the same driver. Bigger the cabinet, better the bass. Again, as I said, this advantage is completely negated with a good subwoofer.
bigboss:micks_address:
I have the MA R225HD for centre/left/right with R90HDs for surounds, driven by Denon 1910, its a pretty sweet combination.. my sub is RSW12. I am toying with the idea of upgrading the amp to a 2311 but its down the line when money allows! My brother as the 250s for left/centre/right with r180s for surrounds and its amazing.. he's using a 1909 i picked up for him second hand.. there really is a step up with the 250s but i couldnt possibly fit them in my room
MA 225HD & 250HD employ exactly the same driver. A slightly bigger cabinet of the 250HD gives it a bit more bass. But if you have a good subwoofer, this advantage is negated. This is exactly the reason why I cancelled my 250HD & went for 225HD (aesthetics was not important for me because the speakers were being housed in a cabinet in any case). There was absolutely no difference in performance when I compared the two......saved myself £75 in the process!
According to Monitor Audio website,
"The R250HD employs the R225HD's driver configuration in a longer cabinet and extra port providing the enhanced bass performance that makes it a desirable space efficient hi-fi satellite for any room."
In fact, MA R225HD, R250HD & R270HD all share exactly the same driver. Bigger the cabinet, better the bass. Again, as I said, this advantage is completely negated with a good subwoofer.
That's what Dave told me in hifi4less yesterday I'm going to go for the 225 for the center
Thanks
Dean
I have the MA R225HD for centre/left/right with R90HDs for surounds, driven by Denon 1910, its a pretty sweet combination.. my sub is RSW12. I am toying with the idea of upgrading the amp to a 2311 but its down the line when money allows! My brother as the 250s for left/centre/right with r180s for surrounds and its amazing.. he's using a 1909 i picked up for him second hand.. there really is a step up with the 250s but i couldnt possibly fit them in my room
MA 225HD & 250HD employ exactly the same driver. A slightly bigger cabinet of the 250HD gives it a bit more bass. But if you have a good subwoofer, this advantage is negated. This is exactly the reason why I cancelled my 250HD & went for 225HD (aesthetics was not important for me because the speakers were being housed in a cabinet in any case). There was absolutely no difference in performance when I compared the two......saved myself £75 in the process!
According to Monitor Audio website,
"The R250HD employs the R225HD's driver configuration in a longer cabinet and extra port providing the enhanced bass performance that makes it a desirable space efficient hi-fi satellite for any room."
In fact, MA R225HD, R250HD & R270HD all share exactly the same driver. Bigger the cabinet, better the bass. Again, as I said, this advantage is completely negated with a good subwoofer.
That's what Dave told me in hifi4less yesterday I'm going to go for the 225 for the center
Thanks
Dean
well my brothers 250s deflintely sound better than my 225's but maybe thats due to the denon 1909 being better than the 1910? what would you recommend as a decent amp to get the best out of the 225s?
dirtydean:bigboss:micks_address:
I have the MA R225HD for centre/left/right with R90HDs for surounds, driven by Denon 1910, its a pretty sweet combination.. my sub is RSW12. I am toying with the idea of upgrading the amp to a 2311 but its down the line when money allows! My brother as the 250s for left/centre/right with r180s for surrounds and its amazing.. he's using a 1909 i picked up for him second hand.. there really is a step up with the 250s but i couldnt possibly fit them in my room
MA 225HD & 250HD employ exactly the same driver. A slightly bigger cabinet of the 250HD gives it a bit more bass. But if you have a good subwoofer, this advantage is negated. This is exactly the reason why I cancelled my 250HD & went for 225HD (aesthetics was not important for me because the speakers were being housed in a cabinet in any case). There was absolutely no difference in performance when I compared the two......saved myself £75 in the process!
According to Monitor Audio website,
"The R250HD employs the R225HD's driver configuration in a longer cabinet and extra port providing the enhanced bass performance that makes it a desirable space efficient hi-fi satellite for any room."
In fact, MA R225HD, R250HD & R270HD all share exactly the same driver. Bigger the cabinet, better the bass. Again, as I said, this advantage is completely negated with a good subwoofer.
That's what Dave told me in hifi4less yesterday I'm going to go for the 225 for the center Thanks Dean
dirtydean:bigboss:micks_address:
I have the MA R225HD for centre/left/right with R90HDs for surounds, driven by Denon 1910, its a pretty sweet combination.. my sub is RSW12. I am toying with the idea of upgrading the amp to a 2311 but its down the line when money allows! My brother as the 250s for left/centre/right with r180s for surrounds and its amazing.. he's using a 1909 i picked up for him second hand.. there really is a step up with the 250s but i couldnt possibly fit them in my room
MA 225HD & 250HD employ exactly the same driver. A slightly bigger cabinet of the 250HD gives it a bit more bass. But if you have a good subwoofer, this advantage is negated. This is exactly the reason why I cancelled my 250HD & went for 225HD (aesthetics was not important for me because the speakers were being housed in a cabinet in any case). There was absolutely no difference in performance when I compared the two......saved myself £75 in the process!
According to Monitor Audio website,
"The R250HD employs the R225HD's driver configuration in a longer cabinet and extra port providing the enhanced bass performance that makes it a desirable space efficient hi-fi satellite for any room."
In fact, MA R225HD, R250HD & R270HD all share exactly the same driver. Bigger the cabinet, better the bass. Again, as I said, this advantage is completely negated with a good subwoofer.
That's what Dave told me in hifi4less yesterday I'm going to go for the 225 for the center Thanks Dean
bigboss
Moderator
I don't think its the R250 HD speakers.
1) What subwoofer have you both got? Simply upgrade your subwoofer to RSW12 or AW12 & your system should sound better than your brother's.
2) It's also possible that your speakers have not been properly calibrated.
3) Room acoustics also play a part in how a system sounds.
4) your brother has R180 HD rears which may be making the difference.
I don't think there's much difference between Denon 1909 & 1910. If you're planning an upgrade, look at Denon 3310/3311 or Yamaha RX-V2065/2067.
1) What subwoofer have you both got? Simply upgrade your subwoofer to RSW12 or AW12 & your system should sound better than your brother's.
2) It's also possible that your speakers have not been properly calibrated.
3) Room acoustics also play a part in how a system sounds.
4) your brother has R180 HD rears which may be making the difference.
I don't think there's much difference between Denon 1909 & 1910. If you're planning an upgrade, look at Denon 3310/3311 or Yamaha RX-V2065/2067.
i have the rsw12, so does he! i guess the receiver is the weak point.. do you think i'd notice a big difference going for a 2311.. how do you find the 225's with stereo music? it could be my room.. there's a big opening into our living room so the sound is not as contained.. we have tiles floors throughout.. i used the audessy setup for calibration... i dont think he calibrated his speakers at all!
bigboss:I don't think its the R250 HD speakers. 1) What subwoofer have you both got? Simply upgrade your subwoofer to RSW12 or AW12 & your system should sound better than your brother's. 2) It's also possible that your speakers have not been properly calibrated. 3) Room acoustics also play a part in how a system sounds. 4) your brother has R180 HD rears which may be making the difference. I don't think there's much difference between Denon 1909 & 1910. If you're planning an upgrade, look at Denon 3310/3311 or Yamaha RX-V2065/2067.
bigboss:I don't think its the R250 HD speakers. 1) What subwoofer have you both got? Simply upgrade your subwoofer to RSW12 or AW12 & your system should sound better than your brother's. 2) It's also possible that your speakers have not been properly calibrated. 3) Room acoustics also play a part in how a system sounds. 4) your brother has R180 HD rears which may be making the difference. I don't think there's much difference between Denon 1909 & 1910. If you're planning an upgrade, look at Denon 3310/3311 or Yamaha RX-V2065/2067.
bigboss
Moderator
With Denon 2311 or Yamaha 1067, you should notice a difference. The difference will be more marked if you go another step up, to Denon 3311 or Yamaha 2067. Audition them & see for yourself if the difference is worth the extra outlay.The R225 HD is good with stereo music as well, especially with a more capable receiver.
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