just got a pair of these from superfi, b grade stock but look brand new for £169.95, they are an absolute bargain, not run too much through them yet but already sounding good, not just bassy monsters all the frequency range is handled well, all the bolts and spikes and plinths where in the box which suprised me for the price and being b grade. nice to get a genuine bargain just thought id let you know in case your looking for some cheap good speakers