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7760 said:
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by saying mastered in 4K, there is no difference.

That's certainly not necessarily true.

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It is either 1080p or it isn't. It isn't in 4k native is it, it's dusolaying 1080p and nothing else.

Resolution alone doesn't determine the quality.

you are completely missing my point. I am not saying the picture is better or worse. I am saying it is not in 4k resolution and is 1080p and that's that. I was answering Gels question re upgrading tv and Hdmi cable to which he does not need to does he??

do understand what I am saying? Or, do you just want to carry on trolling...?
 

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Series1boy said:
You are completely missing my point.

And you mine, which is challenging your statements of Mastered in 4K being "a big con" as well as "by saying mastered in 4K, there is no difference".

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I am not saying the picture is better or worse. I am saying it is not in 4k resolution and is 1080p and that's that. I was answering Gels question re upgrading tv and Hdmi cable to which he does not need to does he??

Absolutely true, he doesn't. That's not being debated at all, see above.

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Or, do you just want to carry on trolling...?

Really, no need to insult someone for being of different opinion that yourself... : -(
 
Most current films use the 4K master when making blu ray discs anyway. Some older titles were not made from higher resolution, mainly due to laziness of the producers and not willing to invest in good quality. That's where "mastered in 4K" may make a difference. In reality, this shouldn't have existed at all, if only the producers bothered about bringing the best possible quality to the consumers in the first place. It's like a window cleaner charging you extra for doing a good job.
 

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Most current films use the 4K master when making blu ray discs anyway. Some older titles were not made from higher resolution, mainly due to laziness of the producers and not willing to invest in good quality. That's where "mastered in 4K" may make a difference. In reality, this shouldn't have existed at all, if only the producers bothered about bringing the best possible quality to the consumers in the first place. It's like a window cleaner charging you extra for doing a good job.

i can't agree more
 

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Have hung on a long time to change out my old Panny HD ready plasma, was debating whether to go for a OLED after seeing the 930 in a local shop. I ended up with a decision for a 8505 Sony and the 7500 Samsung, was difficult to justify the OLED at 3 times the money, i went for the 7500 in the end due to reading too many bad reviews on the Sony panel with light bleeding issues. After reading the review, WHAT HI FI do not even stick their neck out and say whther the OLED is better than a LED, from the headlines you would think it is but surprised a review does not state that, from what i saw, OLED was miles ahead, just very expensive.
 
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swampydrill said:
Have hung on a long time to change out my old Panny HD ready plasma, was debating whether to go for a OLED after seeing the 930 in a local shop. I ended up with a decision for a 8505 Sony and the 7500 Samsung, was difficult to justify the OLED at 3 times the money, i went for the 7500 in the end due to reading too many bad reviews on the Sony panel with light bleeding issues. After reading the review, WHAT HI FI do not even stick their neck out and say whther the OLED is better than a LED, from the headlines you would think it is but surprised a review does not state that, from what i saw, OLED was miles ahead, just very expensive.
I know, I found that weird too. Why don't you stick your necks out WHF and say OLED is better than LED?
 

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swampydrill said:
After reading the review, WHAT HI FI do not even stick their neck out and say whther the OLED is better than a LED,

What review exactly? There have now been several OLED products, so you need to specify which OLED product and which What Hi-Fi review.
 

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gel said:
swampydrill said:
Have hung on a long time to change out my old Panny HD ready plasma, was debating whether to go for a OLED after seeing the 930 in a local shop. I ended up with a decision for a 8505 Sony and the 7500 Samsung, was difficult to justify  the OLED at 3 times the money, i went for the 7500 in the end due to reading too many bad reviews on the Sony panel with light bleeding issues. After reading the review, WHAT HI FI do not even stick their neck out and say whther the OLED is better than a LED, from the headlines you would think it is but surprised a review does not state that, from what i saw, OLED was miles ahead, just very expensive.
I know, I found that weird too.  Why don't you stick your necks out WHF and say OLED is better than LED?
It makes the what hifi awards issue a bit redundant if they would reveal that already....
 

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gel said:
I know, I found that weird too. Why don't you stick your necks out WHF and say OLED is better than LED?

Because not everyone at What Hi-Fi is an OLED fanboy.

Saying OLED is better than LED would be a sweeping statement, and maybe not true in every case, it all depends on how well the technologies are implemented. I do recognise that OLED is very good indeed, but it's not (yet?) perfect.
 
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Just had a demo of this in John Lewis in 4K and OLED and I am not too sure I could see a difference between this and mine and the 930 which was on display too. It seemed blacker but in reality it was probably the same. The sound sounded very good on it. Not too sure what to think to it. It wasnt bad or it wasn't anything I hadn't seen before. Is that what you thought guys and WHF?
 

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Son_of_SJ said:
gel said:
I know, I found that weird too. Why don't you stick your necks out WHF and say OLED is better than LED?

Because not everyone at What Hi-Fi is an OLED fanboy.

Saying OLED is better than LED would be a sweeping statement, and maybe not true in every case, it all depends on how well the technologies are implemented. I do recognise that OLED is very good indeed, but it's not (yet?) perfect.

We can't make a definitive judgement on 4K OLED based on the test of just one TV. Given that there is a significant price difference between first-generation OLED screens and the latest LCD/LED ones, and that we haven't (yet) seen a sufficient number of new OLED sets to compare directly with similarly-sized LCD/LED models, we're reserving judgement (for now).

But there's no doubt that the combination of 4K and OLED looks very promising, at least based on our experience so far.
 
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Andy Clough said:
Son_of_SJ said:
gel said:
I know, I found that weird too. Why don't you stick your necks out WHF and say OLED is better than LED?

Because not everyone at What Hi-Fi is an OLED fanboy.

Saying OLED is better than LED would be a sweeping statement, and maybe not true in every case, it all depends on how well the technologies are implemented. I do recognise that OLED is very good indeed, but it's not (yet?) perfect.

We can't make a definitive judgement on 4K OLED based on the test of just one TV. Given that there is a significant price difference between first-generation OLED screens and the latest LCD/LED ones, and that we haven't (yet) seen a sufficient number of new OLED sets to compare directly with similarly-sized LCD/LED models, we're reserving judgement (for now).

But there's no doubt that the combination of 4K and OLED looks very promising, at least based on our experience so far.
Did 4K stick out compared to previous OLED models?
 
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I think normal TV goes blacker too, can anyone confirm this?
 
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Son_of_SJ said:
Is there anything special about Freeview in John Lewis, as opposed to Freeview anywhere else (in my flat for instance)???
I don't suppose so, but it did look particularly good on the LG 4K OLED today. It reminded me of Kuros on Freeview - very good with blacks sticking right out. I don't watch mine on Freeview so can't comment on it.
 
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Had a demo of it in 4K today and didn't think it looked great. Looks like I will be keeping mine. *smile*
 
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Had another demo of 4K today with some more material this time and still don't know quite what to think to it. The resolution does look better but I wouldn't say by much. The colours look the same. I think it's only worth it if you want a TV in 65-inches but that's going to cost some.
 
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The contrast was dimmed too to make the two technologies compatible, bit of a joke really. *fool*
 

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