Learn the Loudness War’s dirty little secret

[gasolin]

http://dynamicrangeday.co.uk/loudness-war-dirty-secret/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-O5l6NSsdY

I need a button like that in the video that is on spotify for tidal hifi

Some of michael jacksons music do distort a bit and try listening to song nr 1 and 3 (or the whole record) on the Bruno Mars album Unortodox Jukebox, is horrible on tidal hifi

 

[Vladimir]

Very well sorted presentations. Everything that needs to be said is there.

 

[lindsayt]

http://dynamicrangeday.co.uk/about/

Sign up. Make your protest to the Music Industry for what they've been doing to the dynamics of recorded music.

 

[Gaz37]

I can't help thinking the music industry won't take any notice of such a petition, they're there to make money not good music.
They know that 90+% of their sales are listened to on either an Iphone and a Bose wireless speaker or Beats headphones so dynamic range is of no interest to them or their customers.
It's a shame but that's how it is.

 

[MajorFubar]

Very true words in that article. I am on speaking terms (actually let's relegate that to typing terms) wth various industry insiders such as producers and mastering engineers. Every one of them is **** scared to break the formula on anything but 'tuned for audiophiles' specialist-market releases like hi-res masters and vinyl cuts.

 

[nick8858]

Interesting posts particularly the last one about "engineers". They are truly second rate these days. I have vast collections of analogue recorded classical and easy listening stuff from the 50's 60's and these recordings knock spots off anything modern. They were done on tape are hiss free offer a superb dynamic range and are simply peerless. Back then the recording guys really cared about what they were doing. Listen to any EMI or Decca engineered by John Culshaw, Ken Wilkinson, Christopher Bishop and they are superb. True you have to crank the volume up a bit but there is no compression and no faffing about post production. Go on Amazon and treat yourself to anything that says "Phase four Stereo" for a start. Okay they are a bit gimmicky as they came out when stereo first emerged but they are a thoroughly enjoyable and great sonic experience. Similarly Mercury Living Stereo or RCA Living Presence (may have them the wrong way roun by the way!).. All analogue.. Let no one fool you digital is better and modern recordings are better either. Try some of the above as they are guaranteed to put a smile on your face.

 

[paulkebab]

could have a say in this. A band or solo artist who makes music for musics sake, not money. They could decide how the final mix sounds ie subtle compression if any, and if the label doesn't like it they can sell the regular mashed version and the artist can sell the unmashed version off their own bat. At the end of the day, an artist records an album and presents it to the label they work for, but it's not what the artist wants to put out it's what the label wants to put out for maximum sales, which benefits both parties, but surely the artist must feel a bit peeved to hear their work compressed? I wonder if the the only feasible way of getting what we really want is to divert attention away from the people who aren't going to budge and towards the people who could instigate a change. Maybe even two versions of the same album, mashed and unmashed? Release the mainstream CD and have the artist (if they wish) make available the uncompressed version for download. And no premium in price as they would both be mastered, end of - in fact the unmashed version should be cheaper as it wouldn't need as much post-production? And no trick 'hi-res' labelling either, it should be 'mainstream quality' or 'CD quality'.

 

[Andrewjvt]

could have a say in this. A band or solo artist who makes music for musics sake, not money. They could decide how the final mix sounds ie subtle compression if any, and if the label doesn't like it they can sell the regular mashed version and the artist can sell the unmashed version off their own bat. At the end of the day, an artist records an album and presents it to the label they work for, but it's not what the artist wants to put out it's what the label wants to put out for maximum sales, which benefits both parties, but surely the artist must feel a bit peeved to hear their work compressed? I wonder if the the only feasible way of getting what we really want is to divert attention away from the people who aren't going to budge and towards the people who could instigate a change. Maybe even two versions of the same album, mashed and unmashed? Release the mainstream CD and have the artist (if they wish) make available the uncompressed version for download. And no premium in price as they would both be mastered, end of - in fact the unmashed version should be cheaper as it wouldn't need as much post-production? And no trick 'hi-res' labelling either, it should be 'mainstream quality' or 'CD quality'.

Or 3 different versions to buy.

1. Mp3 compressed for phones, cars and radio

2. High dynamic range audiophile version for people who enjoy listening to music on nice sound system

Edit. Lol you beat me to it and i must now admit i never read your post

 

[Andrewjvt]

https://youtu.be/qUcgg2vMX_s

 

[shadders]

could have a say in this. A band or solo artist who makes music for musics sake, not money. They could decide how the final mix sounds ie subtle compression if any, and if the label doesn't like it they can sell the regular mashed version and the artist can sell the unmashed version off their own bat. At the end of the day, an artist records an album and presents it to the label they work for, but it's not what the artist wants to put out it's what the label wants to put out for maximum sales, which benefits both parties, but surely the artist must feel a bit peeved to hear their work compressed? I wonder if the the only feasible way of getting what we really want is to divert attention away from the people who aren't going to budge and towards the people who could instigate a change. Maybe even two versions of the same album, mashed and unmashed? Release the mainstream CD and have the artist (if they wish) make available the uncompressed version for download. And no premium in price as they would both be mastered, end of - in fact the unmashed version should be cheaper as it wouldn't need as much post-production? And no trick 'hi-res' labelling either, it should be 'mainstream quality' or 'CD quality'.

Hi,

Is it possible to write to the independent labels to ask them to release the uncompressed version as a digital download ?.

I do not see any progress with the major labels, but if your favourite bands are on independent labels, then perhaps they will be more approachable.

Regards,

Shadders.

 

[Vladimir]

https://youtu.be/qUcgg2vMX_s

How can Allan Parsons tell if he got salsa on his shirt? His brain filters out repetitive patterns. *sad*

 

[Andrewjvt]

https://youtu.be/qUcgg2vMX_s

How can Allan Parsons tell if he got salsa on his shirt? His brain filters out repetitive patterns. *sad*

For sure haha

 

[gasolin]

https://youtu.be/qUcgg2vMX_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDZcz-V29_M