Lavardin IS Reference or Perreaux audiant 80i

[apique]

Hi,

Last week I bought a pair of Graham LS59 speakers. They really sound wonderfully with my Lavardin IS amplifier, but of course, the dealer suggested to "improve" the amplifier in a near future

He has suggested to upgrade it to the IS Reference or the New Zealander Perreaux audiant 80i. When testing the Grahams we did it with the Perreaux, and I have the impression it is much in the line of the Lavardin IS so I am no really sure if upgrading to these both amplifiers would really make a noticeable difference.

Any suggestions? To really improve, I don' t know if it really would be better to upgrade to the Lavardin IT...but then the price is out of budget.....So, is it worth the money the IS Reference or the Perreaux?

Thanks

Agustin

 

[drummerman]

Hi,

Last week I bought a pair of Graham LS59 speakers. They really sound wonderfully with my Lavardin IS amplifier, but of course, the dealer suggested to "improve" the amplifier in a near future

He has suggested to upgrade it to the IS Reference or the New Zealander Perreaux audiant 80i. When testing the Grahams we did it with the Perreaux, and I have the impression it is much in the line of the Lavardin IS so I am no really sure if upgrading to these both amplifiers would really make a noticeable difference.

Any suggestions? To really improve, I don' t know if it really would be better to upgrade to the Lavardin IT...but then the price is out of budget.....So, is it worth the money the IS Reference or the Perreaux?

Thanks

Agustin

Surely trying them in the context of your system will give you the answer, no? You already tried the Perraux and are not sure if it is worth it ... try the other.

To much money to guess imho.

 

[Al ears]

Hi,

Last week I bought a pair of Graham LS59 speakers. They really sound wonderfully with my Lavardin IS amplifier, but of course, the dealer suggested to "improve" the amplifier in a near future

He has suggested to upgrade it to the IS Reference or the New Zealander Perreaux audiant 80i. When testing the Grahams we did it with the Perreaux, and I have the impression it is much in the line of the Lavardin IS so I am no really sure if upgrading to these both amplifiers would really make a noticeable difference.

Any suggestions? To really improve, I don' t know if it really would be better to upgrade to the Lavardin IT...but then the price is out of budget.....So, is it worth the money the IS Reference or the Perreaux?

Thanks

Agustin

Surely trying them in the context of your system will give you the answer, no? You already tried the Perraux and are not sure if it is worth it ... try the other.

To much money to guess imho.

I quite agree with drummerman here. I doubt any or indeed many on this forum have heard both of these with your speakers so don't see how you could really expect an answer here that could make any difference in the long run. The only way is to audition yourself I fear.

Oh, welcome to the forum by the way. Didn't really mean to be so negative on your first post but trying to be realistic.

 

[CnoEvil]

Lavardin's own speaker cable, while expensive, is supposed to make a very worthwhile difference. If you are not using it, see if your dealer will lend you some to try.

No other amp sounds quite like a Lavadin. If you love its subtle, refined and musical presentation, (imo) don't be too quick to change it.

 

[matt49]

Lavardin's own speaker cable, while expensive, is supposed to make a very worthwhile difference. If you are not using it, see if your dealer will lend you some to try.

No other amp sounds quite like a Lavadin. If you love its subtle, refined and musical presentation, (imo) don't be too quick to change it.

I'd agree with Cno -- except for the bit about the speaker cables

If you like the Lavardin IS, stick with it for a while: it's a great amp.

If I were upgrading amps, I'd go for something with a more power than the Lavardin (45W), because your speakers are of average sensitivity.

 

[iQ Speakers]

I think its great that you have somthing out of the norm, I'd like to here the Lavardin Im sure its very good. They seem very simple in internal layout.

 

[Infiniteloop]

Lavardin's own speaker cable, while expensive, is supposed to make a very worthwhile difference. If you are not using it, see if your dealer will lend you some to try.

No other amp sounds quite like a Lavadin. If you love its subtle, refined and musical presentation, (imo) don't be too quick to change it.

I'd agree with the comment about the Lavardin sound, except that when I listened to an IT (through some Martin Logans), I thought that the sound was a little grey. Ultimately I ditched my Martin Logans and went Valve..... but that's a whole other odyssey. - In a roundabout way what I think I'm saying is that if you like the Lavardin Sound, you'd also like Devialet. - The sound is similarly refined and musical, but is much more 'colourful' without being 'coloured'.

 

[CnoEvil]

I'd agree with the comment about the Lavardin sound, except that when I listened to an IT (through some Martin Logans), I thought that the sound was a little grey.

IIRC. When Acalex / Roby heard a Lavardin, they said something similar...until they connected it with the company's own cables....but that left it too expensive, as they preferred the IA-4/35i.

 

[matt49]

I'd agree with the comment about the Lavardin sound, except that when I listened to an IT (through some Martin Logans), I thought that the sound was a little grey. Ultimately I ditched my Martin Logans and went Valve..... but that's a whole other odyssey. - In a roundabout way what I think I'm saying is that if you like the Lavardin Sound, you'd also like Devialet. - The sound is similarly refined and musical, but is much more 'colourful' without being 'coloured'.

Based on my experience with MLs that's not at all surprising. They need massive power and especially voltage.

Devialet is a good call, though possibly beyond budget.

 

[Infiniteloop]

I'd agree with the comment about the Lavardin sound, except that when I listened to an IT (through some Martin Logans), I thought that the sound was a little grey. Ultimately I ditched my Martin Logans and went Valve..... but that's a whole other odyssey. - In a roundabout way what I think I'm saying is that if you like the Lavardin Sound, you'd also like Devialet. - The sound is similarly refined and musical, but is much more 'colourful' without being 'coloured'.

Based on my experience with MLs that's not at all surprising. They need massive power and especially voltage.

Devialet is a good call, though possibly beyond budget.

The Lavardin still sounded grey through Sonus Fabers.........

 

[matt49]

I'd agree with the comment about the Lavardin sound, except that when I listened to an IT (through some Martin Logans), I thought that the sound was a little grey. Ultimately I ditched my Martin Logans and went Valve..... but that's a whole other odyssey. - In a roundabout way what I think I'm saying is that if you like the Lavardin Sound, you'd also like Devialet. - The sound is similarly refined and musical, but is much more 'colourful' without being 'coloured'.

Based on my experience with MLs that's not at all surprising. They need massive power and especially voltage.

Devialet is a good call, though possibly beyond budget.

The Lavardin still sounded grey through Sonus Fabers.........

Oh dear ...

I've only heard a Lavardin once, through the SF Venere 2.5s. I thought it was good, but not as good as the big Krell that I heard immediately afterwards. But I didn't really like the Veneres either.

 

[Infiniteloop]

I'd agree with the comment about the Lavardin sound, except that when I listened to an IT (through some Martin Logans), I thought that the sound was a little grey. Ultimately I ditched my Martin Logans and went Valve..... but that's a whole other odyssey. - In a roundabout way what I think I'm saying is that if you like the Lavardin Sound, you'd also like Devialet. - The sound is similarly refined and musical, but is much more 'colourful' without being 'coloured'.

Based on my experience with MLs that's not at all surprising. They need massive power and especially voltage.

Devialet is a good call, though possibly beyond budget.

The Lavardin still sounded grey through Sonus Fabers.........

Oh dear ...

I've only heard a Lavardin once, through the SF Venere 2.5s. I thought it was good, but not as good as the big Krell that I heard immediately afterwards. But I didn't really like the Veneres either.

The Veneres are products of the 'new' SF sound, a trait they share with the Olympicas I'm afraid.

 

[matt49]

I'd agree with the comment about the Lavardin sound, except that when I listened to an IT (through some Martin Logans), I thought that the sound was a little grey. Ultimately I ditched my Martin Logans and went Valve..... but that's a whole other odyssey. - In a roundabout way what I think I'm saying is that if you like the Lavardin Sound, you'd also like Devialet. - The sound is similarly refined and musical, but is much more 'colourful' without being 'coloured'.

Based on my experience with MLs that's not at all surprising. They need massive power and especially voltage.

Devialet is a good call, though possibly beyond budget.

The Lavardin still sounded grey through Sonus Fabers.........

Oh dear ...

I've only heard a Lavardin once, through the SF Venere 2.5s. I thought it was good, but not as good as the big Krell that I heard immediately afterwards. But I didn't really like the Veneres either.

The Veneres are products of the 'new' SF sound, a trait they share with the Olympicas I'm afraid.

I don't think all the Veneres are bad (the standmounts are quite good value IMO), nor all the Olympicas (I like the Olympica II but not the I or III). Also Sf made some below-par speakers back in the "good old days", e.g. the Cremonas -- whereas we can agree that the Cremona Auditors are excellent

 

[apique]

Hi

I started downloading some flac files from hdtracks and playing them with FiiO X3 but how do I burn them to a cd? My cd player is able to play up to 192/24 tracks but can I burn the cd with Nero? Or do I need any special software on my PC to burn a high res cd? I am suspecting that Nero is burning in 44/16......I am not sure

Thanks for the help