AEJim said:
I think it's fishing. Or why electricity is nonsense (I don't mean that, I just said it to get some debate going). Or the fact that when my cat smiles it makes my life complete. Or something I read in the Daily Express. Or don't you hate people who drive all day with their lights on? Or some arcane aspect of how the mechanics of the forum works. Or something someone said somewhere else whaich of course I can't mention because of house rules but if you google words almost unique enough in combination to keep Dave Gorman happy, you'll find it.
Nice morning, isn't it...?
grifz said:
September issue-ipad 2 on cover (albeit a small pic)
Review predictable as ever and there goes that word again, the "experience".
On another apple biased related note:
September edition - page 27 -Apparently multi-room is now available to the masses thanks to guess who? Apple. The airport express solution isn't even true multi-room. What about Logitech Squeezebox? I would have thought they were one of the first to offer true affordable multi-room? The airport express is hardly new so why is the editor saying it is? It has been around for six or seven years. The first Squeezebox was available ten years ago and you didn't need to be a premiership football player to afford one. The Squeezebox 3 (Classic) was released six years ago.
Multi-room has never been "just for the wealthy". I've had a cheap multi-room setup for years. Sorry but just because Apple launches Airplay and there are a few apps around, doesn't mean apple invented the wheel.
Why are WHF trying to say that affordable multi-room is new and somehow putting it down to Apple (again)?
We're not saying it's "just down to Apple'. We simply gave three typical examples of how to create an affordable multiroom system, including Arcam and Sonos. Yes, there are lots of others too but we didn't have space to include them all. It wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list, just an indication of the type of things that are available.
And while Airport Express isn't new, AirPlay is and millions of people own iPhones and iPads, so we could hardly exclude it.
And while Airport Express isn't new, AirPlay is and millions of people own iPhones and iPads, so we could hardly exclude it.
AirTunes was released in 2004, so it's been around a while. The just renamed it AirPlay recently when they added on video streaming.
I like logitech products, but they are no where near as seamless as Apple products.
Finally, whathifi etc are in the buisness of selling magazines. More people want to read about apple accessories etc than the competitors, so of course you are not going to be able get away from them. It all boils down to what normal people want to read about, rather than tech savvy forum readers, who are a significant minority.
I like logitech products, but they are no where near as seamless as Apple products.
Finally, whathifi etc are in the buisness of selling magazines. More people want to read about apple accessories etc than the competitors, so of course you are not going to be able get away from them. It all boils down to what normal people want to read about, rather than tech savvy forum readers, who are a significant minority.
Since when has multiroom audio been "just for the wealthy"?
The Arcam rCube is nothing new. Klipsch Roomgroove is just one such example of a similar setup.
Sorry but the article infers that these products are 'new' and 'groundbreaking' when they're clearly not. It states that ten years ago a multi-room audio system could have cost tens of thousands of pounds. It doesn't mention the fact that it could have cost a few hundred either. What exactly has "plummeted in price"? Streaming audio and video has been around for years, the only difference is now the likes of Naim and Cirrus have joined the party and are charging ridiculous amounts of money for it.
On the front cover, it says "Denon's new receiver adds wireless music". Am I missing something as I can't find it?
The Arcam rCube is nothing new. Klipsch Roomgroove is just one such example of a similar setup.
Sorry but the article infers that these products are 'new' and 'groundbreaking' when they're clearly not. It states that ten years ago a multi-room audio system could have cost tens of thousands of pounds. It doesn't mention the fact that it could have cost a few hundred either. What exactly has "plummeted in price"? Streaming audio and video has been around for years, the only difference is now the likes of Naim and Cirrus have joined the party and are charging ridiculous amounts of money for it.
On the front cover, it says "Denon's new receiver adds wireless music". Am I missing something as I can't find it?
Unfortunately Denon failed to supply the receiver for the lead First Test in time for our review deadlines, but by that time the cover had aready gone to the printers (it goes ahead of the rest of the mag) and it was too late to change it. Annoying, for sure, but unfortunately these things do happen.
As for the multiroon news feature, I think many ordinary consumers (rather than tech-savvy Forum users) are still unaware of how to set up a multiroom system, and how easy and affordable it now is. As Joe says, the new Sonos Play:3 is clearly aimed at a much more mainstream audience, and Sonos is changing its entire marketing strategy to reflect that.
Just because those 'in the know' are aware of something, doesn't mean it's entered the mainstream. Many of my friends, for example, don't have a clue about all this stuff yet would be interested to know more. And the arrival of streaming services like Spotify has further fuelled interest.
As for the multiroon news feature, I think many ordinary consumers (rather than tech-savvy Forum users) are still unaware of how to set up a multiroom system, and how easy and affordable it now is. As Joe says, the new Sonos Play:3 is clearly aimed at a much more mainstream audience, and Sonos is changing its entire marketing strategy to reflect that.
Just because those 'in the know' are aware of something, doesn't mean it's entered the mainstream. Many of my friends, for example, don't have a clue about all this stuff yet would be interested to know more. And the arrival of streaming services like Spotify has further fuelled interest.
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