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well its quiet around here tonight so i thought this might make for an interesting discussion , and will stop a hijacking of another thread ..

but come on guys , the fuse doesnt know it costs more ..

the electrical signal that passes through it doesnt think , hang on , this is an expensive fuse , i better move faster ..

the relationship between copper , silver , whatever metal , and the electrical current flowing through it isnt affected by the cost of the metal..

how could a £25 fuse/fuses as suggested on another thread , make a big positive difference to the sound an amp puts through a set of speakers ??

what difference is there between the two fuses that would / could have this affect ??

surely this is fuse oil [😛] ...
 
maxflinn:
well its quiet around here tonight so i thought this might make for an interesting discussion , and will stop a hijacking of another thread ..

but come on guys , the fuse doesnt know it costs more ..

the electrical signal that passes through it doesnt think , hang on , this is an expensive fuse , i better move faster ..

the relationship between copper , silver , whatever metal , and the electrical current flowing through it isnt affected by the cost of the metal..

how could a £25 fuse/fuse as suggested on another thread , make a big positive difference to the sound an amp puts through a set of speakers ??

what difference is there between the two fuses that would / could have this affect ??

surely this is fuse oil
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Yes folks..........max is most definitely back
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Placebo, foo, audiophool, Boston Audio Society, The Amazing Randi, religion, Pear Audio, Michael Fremer, wine tasting, homeopathy, ABX, Monster Cable, coathangers.

There, saved everyone a lot of time and effort...
 
Andrew Everard:
Placebo, foo, audiophool, Boston Audio Society, The Amazing Randi, religion, Pear Audio, Michael Fremer, wine tasting, homeopathy, ABX, Monster Cable, coathangers.

There, saved everyone a lot of time and effort...

Good. I'm glad your experience is on the correct side.
 
JoelSim:Good. I'm glad your experience is on the correct side.

I expressed no opinion, but rather merely acted to head off all the old cliches and the inevitable circular (and tiresome) arguments
 
Torres09:maxflinn:
well its quiet around here tonight so i thought this might make for an interesting discussion , and will stop a hijacking of another thread ..

but come on guys , the fuse doesnt know it costs more ..

the electrical signal that passes through it doesnt think , hang on , this is an expensive fuse , i better move faster ..

the relationship between copper , silver , whatever metal , and the electrical current flowing through it isnt affected by the cost of the metal..

how could a £25 fuse/fuse as suggested on another thread , make a big positive difference to the sound an amp puts through a set of speakers ??

what difference is there between the two fuses that would / could have this affect ??

surely this is fuse oil
emotion-4.gif
...

Yes folks..........max is most definitely back
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I know max you think i'm completely bonkers and part of me says i must be but i'm always open to anything that will improve the quality of sound (however ridiculous it may sound).
Now i don't now if it will have an impact or not and thats half of the problem (and the fun) and probably why i didn't go for it before. But if it does work and it reduces even more of the background noise then this can only be a good thing. Hearing a system that can deliver ink black background puts a big smile on my face.
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If it doesn't, well then i have some expensive fuses that i will have to take into account when and if if sell the items on!

Welcome back!
 
Andrew Everard:
JoelSim:Good. I'm glad your experience is on the correct side.

I expressed no opinion, but rather merely acted to head off all the old cliches and the inevitable circular (and tiresome) arguments

What cabling do you use Andrew?
 
Andrew Everard:
Placebo, foo, audiophool, Boston Audio Society, The Amazing Randi, religion, Pear Audio, Michael Fremer, wine tasting, homeopathy, ABX, Monster Cable, coathangers.

There, saved everyone a lot of time and effort...

I think you got everything there... nice work
 
Silver is a better conductor than copper for a start.

If you haven't tried them, you are not in a position to slate them or make rude comments towards fellow audiophiles.

If you have tried them and cant hear a difference, you have saved yourself money and at least you know you have tried them.

If you have tried them and like them, you are safe in the knowledge that your hifi sounds as good as is possible.

There is no correct side or right or wrong with these types of things, much in the same way as a conspiracy theory. There will always be believers and sceptics, each with as little or as much evidence to fight their corner. So at the end of the day, try them if you want. Dont if you dont want and enjoy your hifi and the music.
 
Andrew Everard:
JoelSim:What cabling do you use Andrew?

Suitable cabling throughout.

What brands?
 
JoelSim:Andrew Everard:
JoelSim:What brands?

A branding iron.

Why is it such a difficult question?

'Cos it could be construed as Mr E (read WHF as well) giving approval to a product(s) through his own use of any product.

Definite dodgy ground to tread on!
 
MattSPL:
Silver is a better conductor than copper for a start.

Does that mean that silver I/Cs and speakers cables are 'better' than copper?
 
MattSPL:
Silver is a better conductor than copper for a start.

If you haven't tried them, you are not in a position to slate them or make rude comments towards fellow audiophiles.

If you have tried them and cant hear a difference, you have saved yourself money and at least you know you have tried them.

If you have tried them and like them, you are safe in the knowledge that your hifi sounds as good as is possible.

There is no correct side or right or wrong with these types of things, much in the same way as a conspiracy theory. There will always be believers and sceptics, each with as little or as much evidence to fight their corner. So at the end of the day, try them if you want. Dont if you dont want and enjoy your hifi and the music.

MattSPL

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Well put and................each to his (her) own
 
fayeanddavid:'Cos it could be construed as Mr E (read WHF as well) giving approval to a product(s) through his own use of any product.
Definite dodgy ground to tread on!

No, it's simply that my home system isn't used for anything that influences WHFSV test results, so the question is of no consequence.
 
MattSPL:
Silver is a better conductor than copper for a start.

If you haven't tried them, you are not in a position to slate them or make rude comments towards fellow audiophiles.

If you have tried them and cant hear a difference, you have saved yourself money and at least you know you have tried them.

If you have tried them and like them, you are safe in the knowledge that your hifi sounds as good as is possible.

There is no correct side or right or wrong with these types of things, much in the same way as a conspiracy theory. There will always be believers and sceptics, each with as little or as much evidence to fight their corner. So at the end of the day, try them if you want. Dont if you dont want and enjoy your hifi and the music.
hi matt , live and let live i say
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.. im just curious about these things , and looking for info , proof , etc ..
 
fayeanddavid:JoelSim:Andrew Everard:
JoelSim:What brands?

A branding iron.

Why is it such a difficult question?

'Cos it could be construed as Mr E (read WHF as well) giving approval to a product(s) through his own use of any product.

Definite dodgy ground to tread on!

Why is it any different to saying he used PMC speakers?
 
Rob_manchester:MattSPL:
Silver is a better conductor than copper for a start.

Does that mean that silver I/Cs and speakers cables are 'better' than copper?

Copper is believed to be better for bass when used in speaker cables and IC's. Silver is supposed to be better for high frequencies.

A direct comparison i did between a copper and a silver ps audio interconnect showed that the copper cable had more weight to its sound but was not controlled or clear.

The silver cable sounded crystal clear and precise with no smudging or emphasis anywhere, but did sound slightly thinner. I think this was due to it not adding anything to the sound.
 
In which case, in my current system the majority of the cables are CAT5 patch cables from a variety of computer suppliers. I tend to buy them as I need them. Bought one this afternoon, in fact, from my local Maplin. It was £6.99. I could probably have bought it much cheaper online, but i needed it then, as my wife had stolen my spare cable for a computer hook-up having just bought a new MIDI piano.

But I fail to see what that has to do with my earlier efforts to head off all the cliche-ridden arguments usually prevalent in discussions of this kind.
 
JoelSim:Why is it any different to saying he used PMC speakers?

Not everyone wants or needs to share everything about their lives on the internet.

Now, joel, on that other thread of yours I only saw a part of the plans for the bedrooms in your next house. Can you show us the lot please? And if not, why not? What are you hiding? Eh? Eh?*

*Yes, that is what you sound like grilling Andrew about his home system.
 
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