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peteAllen:It just arrived. Still in its box. Maybe I should leave work early to take it home and open it up?Yes, you should.
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hammill:peteAllen:It just arrived. Still in its box. Maybe I should leave work early to take it home and open it up?Yes, you should.
+1 on that and post a review on the forums before tomorrow
+1 on that and post a review on the forums before tomorrow
peteAllen:It just arrived. Still in its box. Maybe I should leave work early to take it home and open it up?
What blu-ray player/s will you be comparing this against?
What blu-ray player/s will you be comparing this against?
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Will be comparing blu-ray / dvd with the Panasonic dmp-bd55 (I did briefly have the Denon 250BT just before xmas but not long enough to make even vague comparisons as the sound didn't work with my hdmi audio breakout box)
Will also compare its SACD playback with the same disc on the PS Audio PerfectWave Transport (CD only). I'm hoping that my SACDs will be better on the Oppo, but the PS Audio is a very good transport.
Will also compare its SACD playback with the same disc on the PS Audio PerfectWave Transport (CD only). I'm hoping that my SACDs will be better on the Oppo, but the PS Audio is a very good transport.
peteAllen:It just arrived. Still in its box. Maybe I should leave work early to take it home and open it up?
Damn right you should!
I have mine too just setting it up this evening!
Mines out of the box sat waiting...
Damn right you should!
I have mine too just setting it up this evening!
Mines out of the box sat waiting...
First impressions are excellent: good packaging, looks sleek, interface is clean and setup easy.
I'm playing the Planet Earth blu-ray (disc 1). Visually it is great, no judder or artifacts at all, the migrating birds look fantastic and so do the karibou
I will play the same thing on my panasonic later.
Sound is a noticable improvement on the bd55 - very open sounding, more authority, clarity and dynamics. I'm running it via coaxial to a Berkeley Audio Alpha DAC which registers the sound as 24-bit 48kHz.
I'm playing the Planet Earth blu-ray (disc 1). Visually it is great, no judder or artifacts at all, the migrating birds look fantastic and so do the karibou
I will play the same thing on my panasonic later.Sound is a noticable improvement on the bd55 - very open sounding, more authority, clarity and dynamics. I'm running it via coaxial to a Berkeley Audio Alpha DAC which registers the sound as 24-bit 48kHz.
Initially I couldn't get any sound via coaxial on CDs or SACDs, even set to "CD Mode", but after messing around for a while I found that I had to set the Coaxial output to "bitstream" instead of "LPCM" which seems wrong to me. Anyway, comparing cd to cd between the Oppo and the £3k PS Audio PWT transport, there is not much difference. The Oppo is very detailed and natural sounding, but after closer comparison, the PS Audio has a more relaxed sound, more depth to the soundstage, with better imaging: the saxophone sounds more "in the room" than with the Oppo. But the differences are subtle initially, I am only gradually noticing them.
SACD comes through at 44.1kHz regardless of any setting I've tried, so it looks like it plays the CD layer rather than downmixing the stereo SACD layer
My dac has an HDCD light which is handy to check that the signal is passed through bit perfect. I tried the Beck Mutations album and the HDCD lights on and then off then on again intermittently.
SACD comes through at 44.1kHz regardless of any setting I've tried, so it looks like it plays the CD layer rather than downmixing the stereo SACD layer
My dac has an HDCD light which is handy to check that the signal is passed through bit perfect. I tried the Beck Mutations album and the HDCD lights on and then off then on again intermittently.
peteAllen:First impressions are excellent: good packaging, looks sleek, interface is clean and setup easy.
I'm playing the Planet Earth blu-ray (disc 1). Visually it is great, no judder or artifacts at all, the migrating birds look fantastic and so do the karibou I will play the same thing on my panasonic later.
Sound is a noticable improvement on the bd55 - very open sounding, more authority, clarity and dynamics. I'm running it via coaxial to a Berkeley Audio Alpha DAC which registers the sound as 24-bit 48kHz.
Keep going....................
Need more on PQ & SQ
Thanks
I'm playing the Planet Earth blu-ray (disc 1). Visually it is great, no judder or artifacts at all, the migrating birds look fantastic and so do the karibou
I will play the same thing on my panasonic later.Sound is a noticable improvement on the bd55 - very open sounding, more authority, clarity and dynamics. I'm running it via coaxial to a Berkeley Audio Alpha DAC which registers the sound as 24-bit 48kHz.
Keep going....................
Need more on PQ & SQ
Thanks
peteAllen:SACD comes through at 44.1kHz regardless of any setting I've tried, so it looks like it plays the CD layer rather than downmixing the stereo SACD layer
Yes: there's no output from the S/PDIF digital outs when playing SACD. Bitstream from the CD layer is the best you're going to get with your current connection.
Yes: there's no output from the S/PDIF digital outs when playing SACD. Bitstream from the CD layer is the best you're going to get with your current connection.
Oh well, I didn't really get it for sacd/cd although good sacd playback via coaxial or hdmi breakout would have been a bonus.
Last night we watched Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes (actually not boring as many have said). The opening scene had tremendous thundering sound effects - I've definitely never heard anything like this through the panasonic bd55. Without directly comparing the picture quality (I'd need to swap all the cables), I found it extremely vivid, textures were subtle, lots of high contrast details. So, I think it i a significant step up in both PQ & SQ. (Note: I have only been testing SQ through coaxial digital output)
On a negative note however, I found that voices sounded a bit nasal, especially David Attenborough. This is possibly the kind of thing that improves with break-in...?
Operationally it also works really well - startup is quick. It loaded blu-rays in just a few seconds whereas the panasonic (and the denon 250bt) would huff and puff at startup as well as loading even a cd let alone a blu-ray. It is also very responsive, fast forwarding etc is good.
Will do more experimenting later this weekend when it's dark enough.
Last night we watched Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes (actually not boring as many have said). The opening scene had tremendous thundering sound effects - I've definitely never heard anything like this through the panasonic bd55. Without directly comparing the picture quality (I'd need to swap all the cables), I found it extremely vivid, textures were subtle, lots of high contrast details. So, I think it i a significant step up in both PQ & SQ. (Note: I have only been testing SQ through coaxial digital output)
On a negative note however, I found that voices sounded a bit nasal, especially David Attenborough. This is possibly the kind of thing that improves with break-in...?
Operationally it also works really well - startup is quick. It loaded blu-rays in just a few seconds whereas the panasonic (and the denon 250bt) would huff and puff at startup as well as loading even a cd let alone a blu-ray. It is also very responsive, fast forwarding etc is good.
Will do more experimenting later this weekend when it's dark enough.
Given the links between the Cambridge Audio 650BD and Oppo, is the new Cambridge Audio 751BD announced at CES any relative of the Oppo-BDP93 ?? Seems to share QDEO/Marvell components etc, but Oppo is available now and is £300 less than anticipated CA 751 price of £799?
DandyCobalt:
Given the links between the Cambridge Audio 650BD and Oppo, is the new Cambridge Audio 751BD announced at CES any relative of the Oppo-BDP93 ?? Seems to share QDEO/Marvell components etc, but Oppo is available now and is £300 less than anticipated CA 751 price of £799?
If it is, (and it is only an if, I don't know) then I cannot see them maintaining a price of £799
Given the links between the Cambridge Audio 650BD and Oppo, is the new Cambridge Audio 751BD announced at CES any relative of the Oppo-BDP93 ?? Seems to share QDEO/Marvell components etc, but Oppo is available now and is £300 less than anticipated CA 751 price of £799?
If it is, (and it is only an if, I don't know) then I cannot see them maintaining a price of £799
Looking at the Spec the new 751bd has balanced XLR's amongst other things that would make it closer to the OPPO 95 rather than the 93 i think.
v1c:Looking at the Spec the new 751bd has balanced XLR's amongst other things that would make it closer to the OPPO 95 rather than the 93 i think.
I pinched this snap of the back of the 751 from somewhere - doesn't look like there are any XLRs
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I pinched this snap of the back of the 751 from somewhere - doesn't look like there are any XLRs
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Sorry Danny you are right my mistake it's the new CA idock with the XLR reference. So yes that would put it back to 93.
I read it too fast sorry.
I read it too fast sorry.
Going back to the Oppo 93 - I noticed that in the US it has streaming of Netflix etc.Does the UK version have anything like this?
If it had Lovefilm etc, then would be great (or maybe the CA751 later?)
If it had Lovefilm etc, then would be great (or maybe the CA751 later?)
From CA re the audio quality of the 751BD:
The 751BD is the ideal no-compromise choice
for audiophiles who demand the ultimate audio reproduction with superb sonic
performance as standard via two channel and multi channel outputs. Five dedicated
Wolfson WM8740 DACs ensure every channel is decoded in the very highest quality
and Anagram Technologies Q5 192 kHZ upsampling further enhances audio quality whether
played from CD, DVD, Blu-ray or any other supported format.
[Note to editors, more information on Q5
upsampling technology is available at www.cambridgeaudio.com/Q5]
In addition to superb quality decoding, the
ultimate in control is offered with a choice of digital filters. Linear phase,
minimum phase and steep filters can all be selected to suit an individual's
listening preferences.
And for the ultimate audiophile touch, select
Pure Audio Mode and the 751BD shuts down all video processing to prevent any
audio signal interference or degradation.
The 751BD again benefits from Cambridge
Audio's rich musical heritage by supporting all high-resolution audio formats
including DVDA and SACD. Both can be output via HDMI or using the 2ch or 7.1 channel
analogue connections - the 7.1 connection in particular enables older, non-HDMI
AV receivers to benefit from a new lease of life.
The 751BD is the ideal no-compromise choice
for audiophiles who demand the ultimate audio reproduction with superb sonic
performance as standard via two channel and multi channel outputs. Five dedicated
Wolfson WM8740 DACs ensure every channel is decoded in the very highest quality
and Anagram Technologies Q5 192 kHZ upsampling further enhances audio quality whether
played from CD, DVD, Blu-ray or any other supported format.
[Note to editors, more information on Q5
upsampling technology is available at www.cambridgeaudio.com/Q5]
In addition to superb quality decoding, the
ultimate in control is offered with a choice of digital filters. Linear phase,
minimum phase and steep filters can all be selected to suit an individual's
listening preferences.
And for the ultimate audiophile touch, select
Pure Audio Mode and the 751BD shuts down all video processing to prevent any
audio signal interference or degradation.
The 751BD again benefits from Cambridge
Audio's rich musical heritage by supporting all high-resolution audio formats
including DVDA and SACD. Both can be output via HDMI or using the 2ch or 7.1 channel
analogue connections - the 7.1 connection in particular enables older, non-HDMI
AV receivers to benefit from a new lease of life.
So it is aiming at the higher end audio ala OPPO 95
From Oppo ref audio quality of 95
High Fidelity Audio Performance:
Note - Although the BDP-95 shares the same playback
platform as the BDP-93, it is designed from the ground up with a
different chassis and many different components optimized for the analog
audio performance. For this reason it is not possible to upgrade a
BDP-93 to gain the BDP-95's enhanced audio performance by replacing
parts.
From Oppo ref audio quality of 95
High Fidelity Audio Performance:
- SABRE32 Reference Audio DAC - The DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) is one of the most important components for digital audio playback. The SABRE32
Reference ES9018 from ESS Technology is the world's best performing
32-bit audio DAC solution targeted for high-end consumer applications
and professional studio equipment. With the ESS patented 32-bit
HyperstreamT DAC architecture and Time Domain Jitter Eliminator, the
SABRE32 Reference DAC delivers an unprecedented DNR (Dynamic
Range) of up to 135dB and THD+N (Total Harmonic Distortion plus Noise)
of -120dB, the industry's highest performance level that will satisfy
even the most demanding audio enthusiast. The BDP-95 uses two ES9018 DAC
chips - one for the 7.1-channel output, and another for the dedicated
stereo output. - Toroidal Power Supply - Custom designed and built
by Rotel, the toroidal power transformer offers superior inrush current
and much lower exterior magnetic field over traditional laminated steel
core transformers. The BDP-95's toroidal linear power supply provides a
very clean and robust power source to the critical audio components. - Dedicated Stereo Output - The BDP-95 features a
dedicated 2-channel analog output with specially optimized ES9018 DAC
and output driving stages. Each output is driven by 4 DAC channels
stacking together to achieve even greater audio performance. - XLR Balanced Stereo Output - The stereo output
offers both XLR balanced and RCA single-ended connectors. The balanced
output features a true differential signal path all the way from the DAC
to the 3-pin XLR connector. By transmitting a pair of differential
signals, the balanced output provides better common-mode noise rejection
and improves signal quality. - 7.1-Channel Analog Output - Individual analog
7.1-channel surround outputs are ideal to connect to a 7.1-channel or
5.1-channel surround sound system. Powered by the ES9018 SABRE32 Reference DAC, the BDP-95 delivers an incredible and immersive multi-channel soundstage. - Digital Optical and Coaxial Outputs - For simple
and easy connection to more traditional A/V receivers, the BDP-95
features both optical and coaxial outputs for digital audio. - Dolby© TrueHD - Dolby TrueHD delivers lossless
studio master quality audio designed specifically for high definition
entertainment. The BDP-95 supports bit-stream output of Dolby TrueHD
via its HDMI 1.4a output. It can also internally decode Dolby TrueHD
into LPCM and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output
terminals. (Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus audio formats are also
supported.). - DTS-HD Master AudioT - DTS-HD Master Audio delivers
an auditory experience that matches the lifelike images of
high-definition video with up to 7.1 channels that are bit-for-bit
identical to the studio master. The BDP-95 supports bit-stream output of
DTS-HD Master Audio. It can also internally decode DTS-HD Master
Audio and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals.
(DTS-HD High Resolution Audio and DTS Digital Surround are also
supported.)
Note - Although the BDP-95 shares the same playback
platform as the BDP-93, it is designed from the ground up with a
different chassis and many different components optimized for the analog
audio performance. For this reason it is not possible to upgrade a
BDP-93 to gain the BDP-95's enhanced audio performance by replacing
parts.
Just tried the Oppo's "Network" player feature - could only play FLAC files from my DNLA-enabled NAS server (most of my collection is M4A which the Oppo and in fact most players won't play). I compared 24-bit 88.2kHz files (equivalent of SACD) and there was really very little difference between playing them in my transport and on the Oppo over the network. This is the best I have ever heard computer audio! There was a smidgen fuller, more solid, wider soundstage direct from the PS Audio PWT, but very little in it. I'd highly recommend the Oppo for anyone that wants to play music from their computer or NAS, it really is sensational for the price!
Oh, btw I couldn't get the wireless dongle to connect to my wifi - the manual says it isn't compatible with certain wireless routers (frequency or protocol - I use a sky router), but setup was easy with ethernet cable
Still running my Oppo93 EU in, very very satisfied at the moment. Just enjoying reading wot u guys write about it, if I don`t agree I`ll let u`s know
Still running my Oppo93 EU in, very very satisfied at the moment. Just enjoying reading wot u guys write about it, if I don`t agree I`ll let u`s know
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