I am surprised ...

[Snooker]

To be more accurate somewhere around £1500 to £2000, if it applies to heaphones and amps then it also applies to amps and speakers surely *smile*

then you misunderstand the prices headphones, etc. sell for.

The very top of the range headphone kit is much cheaper, so that price on headphones you are playing pretty high up in the market, unlike 2000 pounds in new kit.

ID, Yes that is a very good point you have raised, but I think you could actually buy an amp and headphones for around £500 a little cheaper, and ok for amps and speakers etc lets say a little bit more £2000-£3000 tops then that should definetely do it surely (But the principle remains the same just modified the cost slightly), you could for example spend £800 on an amp and built in DAC etc, £500 on a cd player etc, £500 on Internet Radio etc, £800 on speakers and £200 on headphones

There are people on this forum with systems like this costing around £2000 and have said they sound outstanding, surely the speakers you can buy for say £800 will not sound any better significantly than if they were £10,000, same for the other components on a very well matched system, and that after this point you only get a very small increase in sound quality which will exponentially diminish to effectively no improvement at all

This is true for amps and headphones and also amps and speakers, again so much inaccurate hype around Hi-Fi thinking that something costing £10,000 is going to sound significantly better than a cheaper system of around the £2000-£3000 mark

 

[SteveR750]

I agree with "lindsayt", that in the example given that yes a carefully paired £700 setup for headphones and amp etc, would be just as good as a setup costing £10,000 and upwards certainly without any real noticable difference and only minimal at best, and in my opinion this also applies to amplifier systems and speakers

I have been to hi-fi exibitions and think that a good matched system costing around £2000 including speakers, is as good as anything dearer, and that expensive stuff is just for the rich peoples market

In other words you could buy an outstanding sounding system for £2000 which is as good as anything more expensive, certainly without any real noticable difference and only minimal at best

There really is so much inaccurate hype regarding hi-fi and expensive systems etc

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In which case it's one hell of an expectation bias. Similar to believing Neil Armstrong really did step on the moon levels of placebo

Thankfully, not everyone has had the same experience as your ears!

 

[ID.]

2000 pounds per component, maybe. That would also put the pricing closer to where the headphone setup plays in the field.

2000 all up for new kit, nah. It sounds great but there's more that can be achieved.

 

[Snooker]

I agree with "lindsayt", that in the example given that yes a carefully paired £700 setup for headphones and amp etc, would be just as good as a setup costing £10,000 and upwards certainly without any real noticable difference and only minimal at best, and in my opinion this also applies to amplifier systems and speakers

I have been to hi-fi exibitions and think that a good matched system costing around £2000 including speakers, is as good as anything dearer, and that expensive stuff is just for the rich peoples market

In other words you could buy an outstanding sounding system for £2000 which is as good as anything more expensive, certainly without any real noticable difference and only minimal at best

There really is so much inaccurate hype regarding hi-fi and expensive systems etc

In which case it's one hell of an expectation bias. Similar to believing Neil Armstrong really did step on the moon levels of placebo

Thankfully, not everyone has had the same experience as your ears!

SteveR750, Chill out and try and act professionally in your replies please, like the reply I have just got from ID. *smile*

 

[SteveR750]

I agree with "lindsayt", that in the example given that yes a carefully paired £700 setup for headphones and amp etc, would be just as good as a setup costing £10,000 and upwards certainly without any real noticable difference and only minimal at best, and in my opinion this also applies to amplifier systems and speakers

I have been to hi-fi exibitions and think that a good matched system costing around £2000 including speakers, is as good as anything dearer, and that expensive stuff is just for the rich peoples market

In other words you could buy an outstanding sounding system for £2000 which is as good as anything more expensive, certainly without any real noticable difference and only minimal at best

There really is so much inaccurate hype regarding hi-fi and expensive systems etc

?

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In which case it's one hell of an expectation bias. Similar to believing Neil Armstrong really did step on the moon levels of placebo

Thankfully, not everyone has had the same experience as your ears!

SteveR750, Chill out and try and act professionally in your replies please, like the reply I have just got from ID.  *smile*

OK with a professional face, in my opinion I disagree. I don't believe a good £2k system sounds like a good £10k system, and not because I believe it should. I think the majority of people can tell the difference between different loudspeakers operated under the same conditions, though whether that is considered as value is an entirely subjective feeling, irrespective of that, the differences are tangible, both measurable in a lab, and with ones ears. Rich man's toys maybe, but that does not make them physically the same.
I don't know on what basis you are claiming that all expensive systems are merely "hype" the implication being anyone buying such as system is a fool.