Hi just interested in what volume they normally have when watching a good movie. Iv'e a yamaha RX-V667 and kef 2005.3k2 and for blu ray and skyhd around - 15 to -18. But general tv -20. Its seems like this goes to +80 in the settings going on the - vol.. Room is 14 by 11ft approx. What is reference levels which ive heard mentioned b4?
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jase fox
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dsharratt:Hi just interested in what volume they normally have when watching a good movie. Iv'e a yamaha RX-V667 and kef 2005.3k2 and for blu ray and skyhd around - 15 to -18. But general tv -20. Its seems like this goes to +80 in the settings going on the - vol.. Room is 14 by 11ft approx. What is reference levels which ive heard mentioned b4?The volume can vary depending on how high the channel levels are set, for e.g the higher there set the lower the volume will be on the amp.
For DTS MASTER AUDIO soundtracks (which do tend to sound louder IMO) i have my volume anywhere around -22 / -19
For TRUE HD soundtracks between -19 / -17
PCM soundtracks can be anywhere from -19 /-16 (they seem to sound the lowest)
And for normal tv viewing (pro logic) around -24 and -18 for 5.1 surround.
For DTS MASTER AUDIO soundtracks (which do tend to sound louder IMO) i have my volume anywhere around -22 / -19
For TRUE HD soundtracks between -19 / -17
PCM soundtracks can be anywhere from -19 /-16 (they seem to sound the lowest)
And for normal tv viewing (pro logic) around -24 and -18 for 5.1 surround.
steve_1979
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I mostly listen to music, movies and games with the volume between -30 and -45. By the time the volme is turned up to -25 it sounds too loud and is it at antisocial levels.
jase fox:dsharratt:Hi just interested in what volume they normally have when watching a good movie. Iv'e a yamaha RX-V667 and kef 2005.3k2 and for blu ray and skyhd around - 15 to -18. But general tv -20. Its seems like this goes to +80 in the settings going on the - vol.. Room is 14 by 11ft approx. What is reference levels which ive heard mentioned b4?The volume can vary depending on how high the channel levels are set, for e.g the higher there set the lower the volume will be on the amp.
For DTS MASTER AUDIO soundtracks (which do tend to sound louder IMO) i have my volume anywhere around -22 / -19
For TRUE HD soundtracks between -19 / -17
PCM soundtracks can be anywhere from -19 /-16 (they seem to sound the lowest)
And for normal tv viewing (pro logic) around -24 and -18 for 5.1 surround.
Must be a Pioneer thing Jase.
That;'s pretty much what I set mine at
For DTS MASTER AUDIO soundtracks (which do tend to sound louder IMO) i have my volume anywhere around -22 / -19
For TRUE HD soundtracks between -19 / -17
PCM soundtracks can be anywhere from -19 /-16 (they seem to sound the lowest)
And for normal tv viewing (pro logic) around -24 and -18 for 5.1 surround.
Must be a Pioneer thing Jase.
That;'s pretty much what I set mine at
jase fox
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piobob:
jase fox:dsharratt:Hi just interested in what volume they normally have when watching a good movie. Iv'e a yamaha RX-V667 and kef 2005.3k2 and for blu ray and skyhd around - 15 to -18. But general tv -20. Its seems like this goes to +80 in the settings going on the - vol.. Room is 14 by 11ft approx. What is reference levels which ive heard mentioned b4?The volume can vary depending on how high the channel levels are set, for e.g the higher there set the lower the volume will be on the amp.
For DTS MASTER AUDIO soundtracks (which do tend to sound louder IMO) i have my volume anywhere around -22 / -19
For TRUE HD soundtracks between -19 / -17
PCM soundtracks can be anywhere from -19 /-16 (they seem to sound the lowest)
And for normal tv viewing (pro logic) around -24 and -18 for 5.1 surround.
Must be a Pioneer thing Jase.
That;'s pretty much what I set mine at
Yes, it must be piobob and we have the same bluray player aswell, cool.
jase fox:dsharratt:Hi just interested in what volume they normally have when watching a good movie. Iv'e a yamaha RX-V667 and kef 2005.3k2 and for blu ray and skyhd around - 15 to -18. But general tv -20. Its seems like this goes to +80 in the settings going on the - vol.. Room is 14 by 11ft approx. What is reference levels which ive heard mentioned b4?The volume can vary depending on how high the channel levels are set, for e.g the higher there set the lower the volume will be on the amp.
For DTS MASTER AUDIO soundtracks (which do tend to sound louder IMO) i have my volume anywhere around -22 / -19
For TRUE HD soundtracks between -19 / -17
PCM soundtracks can be anywhere from -19 /-16 (they seem to sound the lowest)
And for normal tv viewing (pro logic) around -24 and -18 for 5.1 surround.
Must be a Pioneer thing Jase.
That;'s pretty much what I set mine at
Yes, it must be piobob and we have the same bluray player aswell, cool.
I play the Yamaha 1800 with DVD and BD around -4 even up to 0 many times. Is that normal? What could be wrong?
jase fox
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pppp1:I play the Yamaha 1800 with DVD and BD around -4 even up to 0 many times. Is that normal? What could be wrong?
Nothing pppp1, you've most likely got your channel levels set alot higher than mine is all.
Nothing pppp1, you've most likely got your channel levels set alot higher than mine is all.
jase fox:pppp1:I play the Yamaha 1800 with DVD and BD around -4 even up to 0 many times. Is that normal? What could be wrong?
Nothing pppp1, you've most likely got your channel levels set alot higher than mine is all.
You mean lower right? Levels were set by Yamaha's auto setup. They are between 0 and 4.5db for the 5 speakers and -4 for the subwoofer. And I play movies at about -4. Does that seem fine?
Nothing pppp1, you've most likely got your channel levels set alot higher than mine is all.
You mean lower right? Levels were set by Yamaha's auto setup. They are between 0 and 4.5db for the 5 speakers and -4 for the subwoofer. And I play movies at about -4. Does that seem fine?
The_Lhc
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Does it matter? If it sounds good, it IS good, what the amp says on the front panel is largely irrelevant.
Gerrardasnails
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dsharratt:Hi just interested in what volume they normally have when watching a good movie. Iv'e a yamaha RX-V667 and kef 2005.3k2 and for blu ray and skyhd around - 15 to -18. But general tv -20. Its seems like this goes to +80 in the settings going on the - vol.. Room is 14 by 11ft approx. What is reference levels which ive heard mentioned b4?
Anything above zero and you are in danger of damaging your amp.
Watching everyday tv, -32db. Watching a bluray or film on my Popcorn Hour and I'd go -27db with the missus, -25db with the kids and showing off or watching by myself, -17db. That is very loud though. I've gone to -8am and its ridiculously loud.
Anything above zero and you are in danger of damaging your amp.
Watching everyday tv, -32db. Watching a bluray or film on my Popcorn Hour and I'd go -27db with the missus, -25db with the kids and showing off or watching by myself, -17db. That is very loud though. I've gone to -8am and its ridiculously loud.
jase fox
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pppp1:
jase fox:pppp1:I play the Yamaha 1800 with DVD and BD around -4 even up to 0 many times. Is that normal? What could be wrong?
Nothing pppp1, you've most likely got your channel levels set alot higher than mine is all.
You mean lower right? Levels were set by Yamaha's auto setup. They are between 0 and 4.5db for the 5 speakers and -4 for the subwoofer. And I play movies at about -4. Does that seem fine?
Yes, sorry i meant lower pppp1, the rule is to let the amp do it's auto set up then to tweak the levels yourself. With the auto setup on my amp it set the levels way to low and very odd settings, can't remember exactly what the levels where but odd all the same.
What i did was set my front speakers to 0.0 each (there recommended value) and then i set the other speakers so they matched the front levels, i used a sound pressure meter aswell as my ears.
The results.....fantastic
jase fox:pppp1:I play the Yamaha 1800 with DVD and BD around -4 even up to 0 many times. Is that normal? What could be wrong?
Nothing pppp1, you've most likely got your channel levels set alot higher than mine is all.
You mean lower right? Levels were set by Yamaha's auto setup. They are between 0 and 4.5db for the 5 speakers and -4 for the subwoofer. And I play movies at about -4. Does that seem fine?
Yes, sorry i meant lower pppp1, the rule is to let the amp do it's auto set up then to tweak the levels yourself. With the auto setup on my amp it set the levels way to low and very odd settings, can't remember exactly what the levels where but odd all the same.
What i did was set my front speakers to 0.0 each (there recommended value) and then i set the other speakers so they matched the front levels, i used a sound pressure meter aswell as my ears.
The results.....fantastic
jase fox
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the_lhc:Does it matter? If it sounds good, it IS good, what the amp says on the front panel is largely irrelevant.Yes, but it can sound even BETTER with abit of tweaking.
I'm surprised at how many people stick with the relative scale and don't use the absolute scale.
I could never get on with the whole -db thing. Always struck me as odd even way back in the early '90s when my mate's Technics midi used it.
I was soooo glad my 875 allowed me to switch to a plain jane 0 - 100 volume scale, and it was pretty much the first thing I did when I hooked up my A85 on getting it home.
I could never get on with the whole -db thing. Always struck me as odd even way back in the early '90s when my mate's Technics midi used it.
I was soooo glad my 875 allowed me to switch to a plain jane 0 - 100 volume scale, and it was pretty much the first thing I did when I hooked up my A85 on getting it home.
The_Lhc
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jase fox:the_lhc:Does it matter? If it sounds good, it IS good, what the amp says on the front panel is largely irrelevant.Yes, but it can sound even BETTER with abit of tweaking.
Eh? I'm just talking about the volume scale, it doesn't matter what the number on the display panel is, just set it to the volume you like and stop worrying what everybody else's amp says.
Eh? I'm just talking about the volume scale, it doesn't matter what the number on the display panel is, just set it to the volume you like and stop worrying what everybody else's amp says.
the_lhc:jase fox:the_lhc:Does it matter? If it sounds good, it IS good, what the amp says on the front panel is largely irrelevant.Yes, but it can sound even BETTER with abit of tweaking. Eh? I'm just talking about the volume scale, it doesn't matter what the number on the display panel is, just set it to the volume you like and stop worrying what everybody else's amp says.+1 This is a weird thread, how could these comparisons between different amps with different speakers in different rooms make any sense?
Big Chris:
I'm surprised at how many people stick with the relative scale and don't use the absolute scale.
I could never get on with the whole -db thing. .....
I'm with you on this one....
I'm surprised at how many people stick with the relative scale and don't use the absolute scale.
I could never get on with the whole -db thing. .....
I'm with you on this one....
dsharratt:What is reference levels which ive heard mentioned b4?
On THX-certified amps, which your Yamaha isn't, THX reference level equates to 0dB on the volume scale. Everything with a minus in front of it is below that reference level, but as has been said, the relative levels of your channels also has a bearing: if they're all set to -10dB, to take an extreme example, then even at 0dB you will be 10dB below reference level.
At maximum level - and remember, whatever volume setting you use, not everything will be anywhere near that maximum level - THX reference level gives an SPL of 105dB, or 115dB for the subwoofer channel. That's silly loud, by any standards.
On THX-certified amps, which your Yamaha isn't, THX reference level equates to 0dB on the volume scale. Everything with a minus in front of it is below that reference level, but as has been said, the relative levels of your channels also has a bearing: if they're all set to -10dB, to take an extreme example, then even at 0dB you will be 10dB below reference level.
At maximum level - and remember, whatever volume setting you use, not everything will be anywhere near that maximum level - THX reference level gives an SPL of 105dB, or 115dB for the subwoofer channel. That's silly loud, by any standards.
jase fox
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the_lhc:jase fox:the_lhc:Does it matter? If it sounds good, it IS good, what the amp says on the front panel is largely irrelevant.Yes, but it can sound even BETTER with abit of tweaking.
Eh? I'm just talking about the volume scale, it doesn't matter what the number on the display panel is, just set it to the volume you like and stop worrying what everybody else's amp says.My apologies the_lhc i thought you where referring to the channel levels etc
Eh? I'm just talking about the volume scale, it doesn't matter what the number on the display panel is, just set it to the volume you like and stop worrying what everybody else's amp says.My apologies the_lhc i thought you where referring to the channel levels etc
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