Home Cinema plans. Room layout.

[richardw42]

I'm currently in the planning stages of an extension. Part of this will include a Home Cinema room.

The measurement have been taken and the plan drawn up, I'll be meeting with the architect later this week to decide on Window / doors locations etc, prior to inking up and submitting for approval.

Off top of my head, the room will be approx 16x12 (maybe a bit bigger). And a perfect rectangle.

Regarding the internal ddor into the room, I think there can be some flexibility on its location. A few feet in forom the corner and at the rear of the room.

Ill probably have 2 sets of French doors, or maybe one with the extra panes at the side. The reason I mention this is because I envisage having 6.1 with the surrounds at the side.

Im not too worried about equipment yet, although there'll be plenty of power points to cater for the possibility of actives. It'll be a pj set up.

Any tips ?

 

[duaplex]

If part of this is a cinema room, then you are probably not going to have it dark enough in there for a ordinary projector screen etc. Correct me if I am wrong and you can black it out?

However there is a great option and BB will be able to tell you more about this one as he had a demo recently. There is a projector screen called the Draper React 2 and this can work in a bright room, like a living room or extension. You then need to pick up a projector that will work well in these conditions, maybe a Sony or Epson model.

Before all that, what is your budget for the speakers, screen, projector etc?

 

[bigboss]

Will you be able to achieve reasonable darkness for projector viewing? If not, look at Draper ReAct 2.1 screen, or Black Diamond (much more expensive). Depending on your budget, look at Sony HW40 (offering similar performance as HW55 at a much lower price) or Epson.

 

[richardw42]

For me it'll be a HC room, but it'll be built in a way so I can sell it as a bedroom, as it'll have a wet room attached. I shouldn't have any issues with light, as I'll be using heavy curtains / blackout blinds. I will be speaking to a local AV installer for best solutions.

I envisage the equipment budget to not exceed £10k. I'm keeping an eye on your threads to get some ideas

 

[duaplex]

10k will get you a very good system.

£1500 - screen

£1700 - projector

£1500 - AV

£4800 - Speakers

£300 - Bluray player

£200 - cables

As to what you buy, well that's personal taste. But exciting times are ahead with demo's

Glad my thread is helping, I will keep us all updated!

 

[bigboss]

Don't forget the cost of install.

Speakers will depend on room size etc. You can get very decent speakers for less than £3K.

 

[jonathanRD]

In my extension, the 'music room' is 5m (long) x 4m (wide). Although I had no choice, the door into the room created a slight problem when placing the surround speakers on the wall. Ideally they needed to be exactly to the side of the listening position, but because of the door, they had to be placed just in front. I could move the sofa forward a bit more - but that leaves too much room behind the sofa. So consider exactly where you want to place your surround speakers (assumimg they will be wall mounted).

Consider how you will run the cables, ideally run them before the extension is finished as I found it impossible to run certain cables in the roof space because of access problems.

Also, consider whether you want to reduce the sound escaping from the room and disturbing others in the house. In my house the main wall between the 'music room' and main house is the original outside wall - a cavity wall. But a lot of the sound escapes through the door into the main house. I am currently trying to figure out how to reduce this problem.

 

[ellisdj]

I lose a lot of sound out of a door as well

Just seen this cheap set of solutions http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/products/seals_for_doors_and_windows/acoustic_and_weatherseal_solutions/12469/norsound_855_door_bottom_seal/154412?vat=1&gclid=CP--79-k4r0CFSOWtAodBlgARg

 

[richardw42]

Thanks for the replies

re. the sound, there's going to be a hall/lobby area in between so shouldn't be too much leakage into the main house, but I'll bear it in mind.

Ive vey not really made any firm decisions on equipment. Speakers could be AVI DM5 or even KEF LS50. The thing is the KEFs are more expensive plus will need a good AVR. I'd prob go for something like the Marantz SR5008 with actives.

An Oppo 103/105 is not out of the question as it is a processor too.

Id add an ATV and a games console. I do like the look of the new PANASONIC BDPs

assuming I have a 120 " screen, would about 8-10 feet viewing distance be reasonable ? Or would that leave too much space behind me and what issues might that cause ?

 

[duaplex]

You really need to be at 16ft with that size screen, but 10ft will still be ok (minimum) Have a look at this http://www.avsforum.com/t/1004723/chart-distance-x-screen-size-standards-smpte-and-thx

In regards to the Oppo, no need for the 105 if you are only going to use the HDMI output to the AV. The 103 will do just fine.

 

[jonathanRD]

re. the sound, there's going to be a hall/lobby area in between so shouldn't be too much leakage into the main house, but I'll bear it in mind.

My room/extension was built on the outside of the house (semi-detatched) with the hallway/stairs in between the 'music room' and the main living & dining rooms. The cavity wall acts as a great sound barrier, but the sound leaks massively through the door into the hallway and into the other rooms - again to a certain extent mainly through the doors (even if they are closed). The back wall where the wall-mounted tv and main speakers back onto, was built using those light-weight thermally efficient blocks, but again they 'leak' sound into the kitchen part of the extension.

So the cavity wall is the most effective sound blocker, the new blocks are just ok, but normal wooden doors are hopeless. Its ok when we are both watching a film together, but when I am on my own I do get some reminders from my better half to turn it down.

 

[richardw42]

You really need to be at 16ft with that size screen, but 10ft will still be ok (minimum) Have a look at this http://www.avsforum.com/t/1004723/chart-distance-x-screen-size-standards-smpte-and-thx

In regards to the Oppo, no need for the 105 if you are only going to use the HDMI output to the AV. The 103 will do just fine.

oh yeah. 8 ft isn't much at all

 

[richardw42]

The plans went in a couple of weeks ago. Planning Office came out today and put a notice on the gate. It's all so slow.

Rather disappoined ne days the room isn't as wide as I envisaged. 3.2 metres (just over 10 foot.). The length is 5.3 ( just over 17'). I still envisage sitting about 10-12 feet away.

Id originally hoped for a 120" screen, but a 16:9 would be 9 feet wide. Perhaps 106 would be more appropriate. What ever maybe I'm going to need one of those acoustic screens otherwise the speakers get shoved in the corner.

My houghts on equipment are

Sony HW40 projector

appropriate fixed or electric screen

Sony BDP S580

xbox one (could I do without separate bdp) and ATV.

Marantz SR5008 AVR (has preouts)

6 x AVI DM5

2 subs (BK Gemini?)

 

[richardw42]

Just an update. I had planning refused. So we're reworking the plans.

It may be that I won't get what I want, but I do have rooms I can adapt.

Whatever happens, cant see anything being done until next year now.

 

[Glacialpath]

Ah that sucks. Might alow for a bigger budget to build up for any new kit you need/want

 

[ellisdj]

I am doing a similar thing at the mo.
Having 5x3 entension built sp i can put her and my boy out there then convert our front room into my listening / cinema room.

It took ages for planning but the shell is now 60%up.
Still months away and lots of grief but the more it goes up the more it feels worth it
Keep at it

 

[richardw42]

PP has been granted so the HC room is back on. Prob mid 2015.

 

[ellisdj]

We Started Months ago and are still not finished yet - allow your project plenty of time

Good news for you though

 

[The_Lhc]

PP has been granted so the HC room is back on. Prob mid 2015.

Uh, for grud's sake, everyone's gone penguin mad since that bloody John Lewis advert...

 

[richardw42]

I'm going to get the extension built first with the necessary lighting, insulation and sockets (for an active setup). It's not going to be a 100% no compromise HC room. When all that's done I'll start putting together the equipment

 

[richardw42]

PP has been granted so the HC room is back on. Prob mid 2015.

Uh, for grud's sake, everyone's gone penguin mad since that bloody John Lewis advert...