has anyone actually seen a modern 3d tv in action ??

[admin_exported]

andrew , clare , anyone ??

with all the talk about 3d tv , it will fail , it wont , it will be great , it wont look good unless its on a projector , etc ..

has anyone seen 3d on a regular sized tv ?? and what was your impressions ??

 

[Andrew Everard]

Yes thanks, 50in Panasonics, and various Sony and Toshiba models at CEATEC last October.

Personal verdict so far? Novelty value only, and will soon wear off.

The huge 4k2k Panasonic, however, was a different matter. In 2D.

 

[gpi]

Probably a fad that will fizzle out like quadraphonic sound. If not it's something else to catch up on I can't afford.

 

[Anonymous]

I've seen 3D on a 103" Panasonic Plasma, but was more impressed by the 2D aspect of it. The 3D looked ok, but it's not something I'm interested in. I haven't seen it on a regular sized screen, and at the risk of pre-judging something without having seen it, I can't imagine I'd be too impressed with 3D on a 40-50" screen at a normal distance.

I recently saw a 3D demo on an Acer (I think) laptop. I'm not sure of the screen size, but I think it was about 15" or 16". From a pretty close viewing distance I didn't think it was that great or something that I would want on a laptop. The fact that it didn't take up the whole field of vision really reduces the effect.

I've seen 3D at the cinema, on a 103" tv and on a 15/16" laptop, none of which have convinced me that I should be spending my money on it. Still, it could be great a few years down the line, or it could have failed.

 

[sonycentre]

I saw a sony 52 3d display,looks good for gaming,but tv mmmmm,i wear glasses and it was a nightmare putting on 3d specs over my glasses,and after a while it felt a little light headed.It will be intresting to see how it all pans out.There are alot of people on hear that are very "into" the tech......but its joe public that will give us the comments,It will be strange doing demonstrations for customers.

 

[Andrew Everard]

The word from Panasonic is that you should be able to watch a full-length movie without ill-effects. It thinks...

 

[Anonymous]

Andrew Everard:The word from Panasonic is that you should be able to watch a full-length movie without ill-effects. It thinks...

Oh great....... they hope you will be able to now watch a full length movie without ill-effects. Forward into the future we go.

 

[Anonymous]

Without wishing to appear naive (too late) how do the new breed of 3D tv's differ to current sets.

To justify my question we recently watched journey to the centre of the earth 3D on our 42" Philips and wearing the cardboard glasses with the green and the red lens. The effect was ok & there were some desent 3D moments so what do the new sets do differently?

 

[Andrew Everard]

Higher resolution, better 3D effects, brighter picture, proper colours...

 

[Anonymous]

Are the cardboard specs still manditory?

 

[simonlewis]

greymack:Are the cardboard specs still manditory?

No you get proper plastic glasses,-not red & green but proper transparent.

 

[Andrew Everard]

And most of them active - ie with fast acting liquid crystal shutters, so you see the whole picture, one eye at a time.

 

[Anonymous]

This new world sounds Amazing

 

[davejberry]

Andrew Everard:And most of them active - ie with fast acting liquid crystal shutters, so you see the whole picture, one eye at a time.

so...if you dont have equal vision in both eyes ( either perfect or the same level of short or long sight) D is a non - starter?

 

[The_Lhc]

davejberry:Andrew Everard:And most of them active - ie with fast acting liquid crystal shutters, so you see the whole picture, one eye at a time.
so...if you dont have equal vision in both eyes ( either perfect or the same level of short or long sight) D is a non - starter?

Errr, well forgive me for being personal but your question does kind of beg this question:

Can you see in 3D normally? If not, I'm guessing you'll struggle with 3DTV (which was a very funny series incidentally).

 

[Andrew Everard]

davejberry:so...if you dont have equal vision in both eyes ( either perfect or the same level of short or long sight) D is a non - starter?

Well, assuming you wear glasses to correct any such vision situation, there should be no problems, as the 3D glasses are being designed so you can wear them over your existing glasses.

 

[Clare Newsome]

Well i've spent a considerable amount of time over the past week with a pair of 3D specs on, assessing the various offerings from Panasonic, Sony, Samsung et al.

As mentioned before, I have been a 3D cynic previously - both due to the largely novelty/kid-focused nature of the content, plus the fact that the stuff typically gave me a headache in seconds.

However, I have now seen some content - and experienced headache-free demos from the new, active shutter glasses - that is making me appreciate the great potential of 3D.

For me, the turning point was watching sport in 3D, which I found very compelling. No gimmicks, just more involving viewing.

From what I saw at the show, many of the manufacturers are making 3D a feature of their higher-end TVs and Blu-ray players almost as a default - so you're getting the best 2D quality then the option of 3D as/when you need it. If that can be achieved without a massive price premium - and broadcasters such as Sky provide tempting/relevant content - then it could be a flyer.

As we always stress, you should try things yourself. But retailers are going to HAVE to get really good demo-facilities up and running for this - with real content to demo - and that's going to be a big challenge.

 

[Anonymous]

hi clare , what were your impressions of the 2d performance of the various tvs ??

many of us are hoping that with the pioneer know how now being shared with panasonic , their plasmas may now be on a par with the kuro ,did you notice an improvement over the v10 on the pannys you seen ?? could the panasonic kuro be on sale soon ??

 

[Clare Newsome]

Beyond a broad 'crikey, that looks good' or 'mmm, not that impressed', it's impossible to make judgements on the picture-quality of TVs at shows - you're only shown carefully selected demo material designed to flatter the products in question.

Yes, Panasonic showed its 2010 plasmas side by side with its 2009 range, and there was a noticeable improvement (particularly in contrast/black levels) with the new sets, but then I don't know how they were set up....

Really looking forward to getting these new sets - 2D and 3D alike - into our test rooms for a good long look. And remember, we still have our reference Kuro!

New Panasonic sets on sale from February, but i'd predict - as last year - that the more budget, mainstream sets will come first, with the more premium models coming out later in the year (but pre-World Cup).

 

[Anonymous]

mmm , thats what i was hoping you would say , that the all important blacks were deeper , i can see no better way that panasonic can entice people to buy their new range than to offer us a kuro in pana clothing , with the bonus of 3d , any idea when the review sets will be getting delivered ? ta..

 

[Clare Newsome]

We'll be getting a more UK-specific briefing from Panasonic in the coming weeks - including model numbers, estimated release dates etc. Soon as we've had that, we'll let you know. At the moment, you know as much as we do!

 

[simonlewis]

Unless alsina beats you to it, like he did last year.

 

[davejberry]

the_lhc:davejberry:Andrew Everard:And most of them active - ie with fast acting liquid crystal shutters, so you see the whole picture, one eye at a time.
so...if you dont have equal vision in both eyes ( either perfect or the same level of short or long sight) D is a non - starter?

Errr, well forgive me for being personal but your question does kind of beg this question:

Can you see in 3D normally? If not, I'm guessing you'll struggle with 3DTV (which was a very funny series incidentally).

You're forgiven ;-)

I do not see in 3D and never have (blind in one eye) but, in real life i perceive depth of field and can judge distance setc through experience. I curious to ascertain if a mild imbalance in sight that may not be a problem with real life or with the old way of viewing 3D material would be a significant issue using shutter glasses or similar technology.

 

[Clare Newsome]

slewis:Unless alsina beats you to it, like he did last year.

Only by breaking the embargo

Some of us are more professional than that....

 

[Anonymous]

thanks clare , hopefully this years sets will offer the same array of picture adjustements on the uk and euro range as they like to bless the u.s. models with ...(at cheaper prices , grrr.)