Go Back to CD?

[podknocker]

You "doubt", which means you're not certain, and yet you call it complete nonsense. Are scientists open minded people, or do they work within believed brick wall criteria? I do sometimes wonder what man wouldn't have achieved if he'd steadfastly believed certain things just weren't possible.

I'm open minded about many things, but I don't believe these expensive, external anti-jitter clocks make a difference to the final sound. It's like expensive cables, just another example of the HIFI sector brainwashing people into buying unnecessary stuff with outrageous price tags. 'We know what we're doing and it's really expensive so you must buy it.' Again. let's see blind listening tests and proof. We all know this will never happen on this forum, or any other. Just more nerdy technobabble from idiots who worship the shiny things. The HIFI business is turning into a cult, where people bang on about a device offering improved performance, with ZERO PROOF OR SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS. There are many on here berating and dismissing the views of Youtubers attempting to explain their findings and many of these Youtubers are quite technical and scientific, but we're all expected to take someone's word for it on this forum, because they want one, orhave been stupid enough to have bought one? DACs and clocks and audio electronics in general, have reached such a high level of performance, that there cannot be any further gains in sound quality and anything more now is just bling and garnish. The way electrons behave in all these devices and gadgets can be predicted and it's incredible and naive for people to think that performance can be increased forever. It's tweaking now and not huge changes in design or performance. That's why the industry is looking for new ways to get the people buying again. We have a vinyl revival because of marketing and brainwashing on forums like this and we have deception and technobabble at the other end, with DACs and clocks costing a gazilliom pounds, when it's silicon chips and audio circuitry. These things have been around for ages and their performance can be predicted. I said it before, but there are nerds out there who think HIFI will improve forever. Physics says no, but people will keep chasing that Unicorn, because they are never satisfied.

 

[davidf]

Ok...

 

[abacus]

I'm open minded about many things, but I don't believe these expensive, external anti-jitter clocks make a difference to the final sound. It's like expensive cables, just another example of the HIFI sector brainwashing people into buying unnecessary stuff with outrageous price tags. 'We know what we're doing and it's really expensive so you must buy it.' Again. let's see blind listening tests and proof. We all know this will never happen on this forum, or any other. Just more nerdy technobabble from idiots who worship the shiny things. The HIFI business is turning into a cult, where people bang on about a device offering improved performance, with ZERO PROOF OR SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS. There are many on here berating and dismissing the views of Youtubers attempting to explain their findings and many of these Youtubers are quite technical and scientific, but we're all expected to take someone's word for it on this forum, because they want one, orhave been stupid enough to have bought one? DACs and clocks and audio electronics in general, have reached such a high level of performance, that there cannot be any further gains in sound quality and anything more now is just bling and garnish. The way electrons behave in all these devices and gadgets can be predicted and it's incredible and naive for people to think that performance can be increased forever. It's tweaking now and not huge changes in design or performance. That's why the industry is looking for new ways to get the people buying again. We have a vinyl revival because of marketing and brainwashing on forums like this and we have deception and technobabble at the other end, with DACs and clocks costing a gazilliom pounds, when it's silicon chips and audio circuitry. These things have been around for ages and their performance can be predicted. I said it before, but there are nerds out there who think HIFI will improve forever. Physics says no, but people will keep chasing that Unicorn, because they are never satisfied.

Things can always be improved as any engineer will tell you, whether it is worth the extra expense only the buyer can determine. (A manufacture will only make what they can sell)
Vinyl never went away, as it was always used by DJs, then as new generations came along, they all wanted to be able to get what their hero's (DJs) used, and so the revival began. (When manufactures found they could make big money from the revival they naturally did so, that's how capitalism works)
If you look at what we use in life today, it is mainly updates of what has been used in the past, rather than anything new.

Bill