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Elicit R & Brio R phono stages

stevebrock

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Had this reply back from Paul Darwin, Rega.

Quite surprised that the Fono MK2 is better than the Elicit R phono!

I have now had the definitive explanation from the designer, Terry Bateman, that the Brio R and Elicit R are fundamentally the same phono stages, but the Fono MM is rather different giving a better performance than either of the embedded / included phono stages.

The reasons form this would be subject to pages of technical stuff, but for reasons of brevity I will not include here !!

Best regards,

PD
 

letsavit2

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Yea there amps use the same components as the fono mini, why spend more than 10% on just the amps phono stage.

ok i just just made that up but then again it could well be true, I can't see them redesigning special phono stages, order different components, etc. just for there amps, or the other way, is there budget phono stage taken from there amps?
 

drummerman

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They may or may not (share the same components) but just having the stage isolated from the rest of the amplifier, with its own power supply, lay -out, enclosure, shielding, ground and interconnect will likely yield different results, for better or worse.

regards
 

MrRibbits

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New here to the forums, and just happened to see this post. This is really surprising ! I have an Elicit-R and the half width Rega DAC, but I'm heading to my local shop on Saturday to pick up my very first turntable (RP3).

I hope the phono stage in the Elicit-R is of sufficient quality for my RP3. I can't imagine it's not, especially since the RP3 with Elys 2 cartridge isn't their high end stuff anyway.

Hopefully it will be fine, and if I ever get an RP6 or RP8 I'll budget for an Aria phono stage :grin:
 

nima

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Is there a contradiction in these two statements, both from Rega:

1. "Brio R and Elicit R are fundamentally the same phono stages"

2. "The Elex-R is a sublime blend of the Brio-R design with the power circuits and advanced phono stage of the Elicit-R"
 

Al ears

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stevebrock said:
The phono in the Elcit is the same as the Brio
Whether or not they are the same appears to be a tad irrelevent when running a cheapish moving magnet. The phono stages in either amp are 'sufficient'.

I wouldn't bother buying an external phono preamp unless you forsse yourself upgrading to a low-output moving coil in the futre.

(Yes I know this is an old post re-invigorated) :)
 

stevebrock

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Al ears said:
stevebrock said:
The phono in the Elcit is the same as the Brio
Whether or not they are the same appears to be a tad irrelevent when running a cheapish moving magnet. The phono stages in either amp are 'sufficient'.

I wouldn't bother buying an external phono preamp unless you forsse yourself upgrading to a low-output moving coil in the futre.

(Yes I know this is an old post re-invigorated) :)
I am in agreement Al
 

MrRibbits

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Al ears said:
stevebrock said:
The phono in the Elcit is the same as the Brio
Whether or not they are the same appears to be a tad irrelevent when running a cheapish moving magnet. The phono stages in either amp are 'sufficient'.

I wouldn't bother buying an external phono preamp unless you forsse yourself upgrading to a low-output moving coil in the futre.

(Yes I know this is an old post re-invigorated) :)
Thanks for the feedback guys. It confirms my suspicions that the Elicit 2 cartridge is "a cheapish mm" and the phono stage in the elicit-r will be "sufficient". Still disappointed that they didn't put an improved phono stage in the elicit-r, that thing wasn't cheap.
 

Vladimir

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Opamp based simple phono stages are expected and age old standard in British budget integrateds. Yes Rega Elicit-R is budget integrated, so is Leema Pulse, Naim XS, Roksan Caspian etc. The Brio-R is entry level budget integrated.
 

Al ears

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MrRibbits said:
Al ears said:
stevebrock said:
The phono in the Elcit is the same as the Brio
Whether or not they are the same appears to be a tad irrelevent when running a cheapish moving magnet. The phono stages in either amp are 'sufficient'.

I wouldn't bother buying an external phono preamp unless you forsse yourself upgrading to a low-output moving coil in the futre.

(Yes I know this is an old post re-invigorated) :)
Thanks for the feedback guys. It confirms my suspicions that the Elicit 2 cartridge is "a cheapish mm" and the phono stage in the elicit-r will be "sufficient". Still disappointed that they didn't put an improved phono stage in the elicit-r, that thing wasn't cheap.
Not quite too sure which one you meant to quote but the Elicit 2 is not a Rega Cartridge. (Did you mean Exact or Elys?)
 

MrRibbits

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Not quite too sure which one you meant to quote but the Elicit 2 is not a Rega Cartridge. (Did you mean Exact or Elys?)

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Oops, yeah just typo, I meant the Elys 2.
 

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