Dissapointed in my brand new Marantz PM6005, anyone has the Denon PMA-720AE and can recommend ?

[bruce_wein]

Hi guys,

Just bought Marantz PM6005 and I must say, I am a little bit dissapointed.

I love HipHop & Electronic music, I LOVE very deep bass and very very high treble and not so much the mids.

I feel that the Marantz is a fine amp, really well build but it lacks the "inside your face" sound approach.

I use it with loudness on ON and full BASS full TREBLE and it still sounds dull, only with external EQ I get the sound i like but it doesn't have to be this way.

I read in this forum somewhere that the Denon PMA-720AE has more energy in it and it produces more drama to the sound.

Anyone has it here and can recommend ?

I'm currently using bookshelf speakers by Morel, and this is my limitation, I can't change to floorstanding speakers so i must squeeze every bit bass and treble from big bookshelfes ...

Thanks in advance guys

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

I think you should be looking at some Dr dre beats headphones.you aren't going to get what you're looking for with proper hi-fi kit.......the music with full bass and treble will be very distorted and sound god awful.I think you need new ears.hope you find what you're looking for but whatever it is it ain't hi-fi.

 

[bruce_wein]

Actualy I already own Beats Studio Wireless but seriously now, I just want to hear some Denon PMA-720AE owners.

Did you compare it with others when buying, if so what were your impressions ?

I understand that my taste is not a typical HI-FI one, but I still do appreciate high quality sound even if it is playing The Prodigy or Massive Attack.

That being said I do enjoy once in a while a Metallica/Nirvana/Pink Floyd/Guns 'N' Roses record but mostly my passion is electronic music ...

Hope that someone can help me here ...

 

[keeper of the quays]

Have you run it in enough? Amps like speakers need running in period..they can sound a bit "meh" until run in? 24/7 for a week should do it..

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

Have you tried adding a sub woofer to the amp..that could be the answer your looking for.The marantz is a well regarded amp in it's price range and I doubt the denon will do anything better.With a sub you won't need to turn up the bass on the amp and the speakers will cope better and try and get used to the sound without loads of treble.

 

[keeper of the quays]

Have you tried adding a sub woofer to the amp..that could be the answer your looking for.The marantz is a well regarded amp in it's price range and I doubt the denon will do anything better.With a sub you won't need to turn up the bass on the amp and the speakers will cope better and try and get used to the sound without loads of treble.

+1

 

[TrevC]

Have you tried adding a sub woofer to the amp..that could be the answer your looking for.The marantz is a well regarded amp in it's price range and I doubt the denon will do anything better.With a sub you won't need to turn up the bass on the amp and the speakers will cope better and try and get used to the sound without loads of treble.

+1

Yep. that's the answer. A nice BK Monolith will have you blowing out your windows. http://www.bkelec.com/index.htm

Sorted!

 

[TrevC]

Have you run it in enough? Amps like speakers need running in period..they can sound a bit "meh" until run in? 24/7 for a week should do it..

ROFL. Utter nonsense.

 

[BigH]

Have you run it in enough? Amps like speakers need running in period..they can sound a bit "meh" until run in? 24/7 for a week should do it..

ROFL. Utter nonsense.

Yes quite so, maybe the room needs running in also, let the walls adjust to the sound.

Its more likely your ears/brain has adjusted to the new sound.

 

[LDTM]

Welcome to the forum Mr Wein.

With the utmost respect, and given your stated preferences, I dont't think that changing from Marantz to Denon amplification is going to produce the effect you seem to be after. As a general statement, most electronics manufacturers (with perhaps the exception of Beats and a couple of other makers) try to produce equipment that has a relatively flat response throughout the frequency range.

To achieve the sound you describe I would mirror previous advice and opt for a subwoofer in addition to your current speakers. Use the controls on the subwoofer to boost the lower frequencies to your desired preferences and the treble control on your amplifer to adjust the higher frequencies.

In the meantime, perhaps you could move your speakers right into the corners - this will increase the bass response to a degree.

But just to reiterate the main point - I really do not think that changing amplifiers is going to produce the result you are after, consider adding a sub.

All the best,

LDTM

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

I LOVE very deep bass and very very high treble and not so much the mids.

Have you thought about getting the local boy racer to park outside your living room?

 

[bruce_wein]

Hi guys, thanks for the answers.

Actually the BASS is better after couple of weeks of use and I can live without a SUB right now.

My main issue is the lack of TREBLE even when it's on maximum it's not enough for me and the MIDS are too noticeable... What I actually need is lower the MIDS significantly and boost TREBLE much more.

Do you think it's the speakers then ?

I am thinking about replacing them with B&W 685 S2, any other speakers you can recommend with exceptional highs and lows and lowered MIDS ?

 

[Peter Kudelstaart]

How about trying some secondhand speakers instead of splashing out on a set of new ones. In my search for new speakers I have come across Magnat Zero 3's in excellent condition. Paid 65 euro's for them and they turned out to have a an excellent bass and even better highs. If they turned out to be not so good I could have sold them with minimal loss and try for a different brand or type.

 

[keeper of the quays]

You could try changing speaker cable, a silver plated type and try silver plated or solid interconnects..that might help with more or clearer treble..my mordaunt shorts 902i sounded very bright (too bright for my old ears) might suit you? I ran them in a Sony 940 amp..(cheap secondhand) if your anywhere near Hastings you can borrow both 902i and Sony amp..hope this helps a little?

 

[keeper of the quays]

Everywhere on forums, reviews by magazines etc...they all say after run in period? Are they all wrong? Lol..i don't think so..regarding wharfdale speakers I think the 8.3s had like my 9.4s Kevlar in the speakers? This material takes a age to loosen up!but worth the long wait as these speakers sing!!! Hifi equipment needs to be run in..even run in equipment's needs to be warmed up for at least half hour before it sounds it's best..

 

[BigH]

Everywhere on forums, reviews by magazines etc...they all say after run in period? Are they all wrong? Lol..i don't think so..regarding wharfdale speakers I think the 8.3s had like my 9.4s Kevlar in the speakers? This material takes a age to loosen up!but worth the long wait as these speakers sing!!! Hifi equipment needs to be run in..even run in equipment's needs to be warmed up for at least half hour before it sounds it's best..

Yes full of it, thats why they never do blind tests.

Not all forums say such things.

 

[keeper of the quays]

Everywhere on forums, reviews by magazines etc...they all say after run in period? Are they all wrong? Lol..i don't think so..regarding wharfdale speakers I think the 8.3s had like my 9.4s Kevlar in the speakers? This material takes a age to loosen up!but worth the long wait as these speakers sing!!! Hifi equipment needs to be run in..even run in equipment's needs to be warmed up for at least half hour before it sounds it's best..

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Yes full of it, thats why they never do blind tests.

Not all forums say such things. 

why do hifi shops warm up speakers before a audition? They all do it..if as you say it's all twaddle then why do they do it? So speakers straight from the box sound fine? They don't. Even mothballed speakers from attic..need a run in period again to loosen them up! In my opinion..

 

[Gray]

You wrote it for me LDTM. Anyone here, even if they've not heard the Denon will be certain Bruce that it won't be what you're after.

To be honest and again with all due respect your post could have passed as an April Fool on this site.

We surely must assume that you didn't audition the Marantz - if you did, I think we'd like to know the name of the dealer.

I used to do discos with a couple of 12" bass drivers and multiple piezo tweeters in each cabinet. I think this may be a minimum requirement for you - and if your house isn't already detached, it soon will be! Good luck.

 

[drummerman]

NAD are said to do the bass thing better than some others.

Their soft clipping feature should also protect your speakers if you want to let rip.

 

[BigH]

Everywhere on forums, reviews by magazines etc...they all say after run in period? Are they all wrong? Lol..i don't think so..regarding wharfdale speakers I think the 8.3s had like my 9.4s Kevlar in the speakers? This material takes a age to loosen up!but worth the long wait as these speakers sing!!! Hifi equipment needs to be run in..even run in equipment's needs to be warmed up for at least half hour before it sounds it's best..

Yes full of it, thats why they never do blind tests.

Not all forums say such things.

why do hifi shops warm up speakers before a audition? They all do it..if as you say it's all twaddle then why do they do it? So speakers straight from the box sound fine? They don't. Even mothballed speakers from attic..need a run in period again to loosen them up! In my opinion..

But you were talking about running in an amp?

 

[BigH]

NAD are said to do the bass thing better than some others.

Their soft clipping feature should also protect your speakers if you want to let rip.

Yes I think you are right, Denon are made by Marantz I don't think that would give you what you want. Or maybe a Behringer A500 is what you need, only about £140.

 

[keeper of the quays]

Everywhere on forums, reviews by magazines etc...they all say after run in period? Are they all wrong? Lol..i don't think so..regarding wharfdale speakers I think the 8.3s had like my 9.4s Kevlar in the speakers? This material takes a age to loosen up!but worth the long wait as these speakers sing!!! Hifi equipment needs to be run in..even run in equipment's needs to be warmed up for at least half hour before it sounds it's best..

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Yes full of it, thats why they never do blind tests.

Not all forums say such things.?

why do hifi shops warm up speakers before a audition? They all do it..if as you say it's all twaddle then why do they do it? So speakers straight from the box sound fine? They don't. Even mothballed speakers from attic..need a run in period again to loosen them up! In my opinion..

But you were talking about running in an amp?

yes I was, just using other examples to labour my point...doesnt really matter anyway as long as you like your hifi..and i like mine..that's the main thing.

 

[Al ears]

Have you run it in enough? Amps like speakers need running in period..they can sound a bit "meh" until run in? 24/7 for a week should do it..

Ballcocks.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Actually I have owned the marantz pm6005 -pm8005 and both needed running-in as well as my abrahamsen whether you think it's rubbish or not they all sounded better after a week or so but some people think it's your brain that gets used to the new sound not the running-in . Anyway back topic the marantz pm6005 is a good little amp for the money if you want more bass I would use a sub and change the speaker cable to silver and also play around with your speaker placement to see if this changes things but if your really want bass buy some floorstanding speakers something like mission or Jamo something that's bass heavy or if you can not have floorstanding speakers Dali 3s are good in the bass department and work well with the marantz

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

I don't know why you lot are wasting your time with all your suggestions, as I jokingly alluded to earlier in this thread (though I was making a serious point), the OP needs exactly the same system that is found in almost all boy racer's cars. Too much bass. Too much treble. Perfect!