Changing standard speaker links

[chebby]

What can I say in my defence ... ?

Van Damme 4mm with soldered spades.

I doubt if there is any difference to be honest.

 

[CnoEvil]

What can I say in my defence ... ?

Van Damme 4mm with soldered spades.

I doubt if there is any difference to be honest.

You just need to embrace your inner audiophile! *music2*

 

[Blacksabbath25]

What can I say in my defence ... ?

Van Damme 4mm with soldered spades.

I doubt if there is any difference to be honest.

I will be honest with you I do not understand myself why I had a change in sound everything hooked as it should be on my setup .

the only difference is I just soldiered the ends in silver soldier just to stop the lose wire from not going into the hole that's all

 

[CnoEvil]

I will be honest with you I do not understand myself why I had a change in sound everything hooked as it should be on my setup .

the only difference is I just soldiered the ends in silver soldier just to stop the lose wire from not going into the hole that's all

Welcome to the world of the deluded. Somebody who knows better will likely be along soon, to straighten you out again. *wink*

 

[Blacksabbath25]

The only thing I can think of is more resistance or less resistance from the speaker cable as the gold links that came with the speakers have a much bigger contact then the speaker cable has maybe the resistance changed ?

 

[CnoEvil]

The only thing I can think of is more resistance or less resistance from the speaker cable as the gold links that came with the speakers have a much bigger contact then the speaker cable has maybe the resistance changed ?

If you want to try another free upgrade...polish all the plug pins with Brasso and clean further with Isopropyl Alcohol (if you have it) + clean all plugs on the end of the leads with the same Alcohol (or plug them in and out a couple of times). It's mad, but can improve the sound.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

The only thing I can think of is more resistance or less resistance from the speaker cable as the gold links that came with the speakers have a much bigger contact then the speaker cable has maybe the resistance changed ?

If you want to try another free upgrade...polish all the plug pins with Brasso and clean further with Isopropyl Alcohol (if you have it) + clean all plugs on the end of the leads with the same Alcohol (or plug them in and out a couple of times). It's mad, but can improve the sound.

I read that years ago in what hifi when they used to put the tips section in the back of the magazine .

if I remember rightly they used to say use Brasso on the 3 pins on the mains plugs as well *smile*

 

[CnoEvil]

I read that years ago in what hifi when they used to put the tips section in the back of the magazine .

if I remember rightly they used to say use Brasso on the 3 pins on the mains plugs as well *smile*

It was on the three pins I was referring to....even take out the fuse and lean it and the fuse holder....paying attention to cleaning all contact points can IME make an audible difference.....but I'm as mad as a box of frogs (and just a little less mad than Ellisdj). *crazy*

 

[Blacksabbath25]

I read that years ago in what hifi when they used to put the tips section in the back of the magazine .

if I remember rightly they used to say use Brasso on the 3 pins on the mains plugs as well *smile*

It was on the three pins I was referring to....even take out the fuse and lean it and the fuse holder....paying attention to cleaning all contact points can IME make an audible difference.....but I'm as mad as a box of frogs (and just a little less mad than Ellisdj). *crazy*

it does sound a bit over the top cleaning the fuses lol .

No you have to take your hat of with Ellisdj he has a lot of passion and love of music and the hobby it's self . But do believe there comes a limit in how far you can take hifi sound not that I have ever heard a money no object setup before .

 

[ellisdj]

There is no limit to how far the sound can go... someone with far more experience than me told me that a few years ago and I believe him.

Thats the best bit about the hobby - working out how you get there and the gratification of it at each stage

 

[steve_1979]

If you change the links yourself there will be a difference, if you get somebody else to change them (A blind test) there won’t.

Most links also have a larger CSA then jumper cable, so they will have less resistance. (Although the difference in resistance over that small gap will be negligible)

Remember, speaker cable/links are a well-known science, so as always, ignore anything mystical spouted out by Hi Fi cable manufactures.

Hope this helps

Bill

Words of wisdom from Bill.

The only thing that replacing the original jumpers with speaker wire will do is make matters worse.

Speaker wires do not have magic properties. A flat plate jumper supplied with the speaker will have lower resistance and greater contact area than a speaker cable and should be used if the option is available.

​- though the length of the jumper is so small that any effect won't be audible.

A better solution is to get manufacturers to stop wasting money on useless biwire connections which are only there for marketing purposes and put the money saved toward better drivers, or come to that, lower the price of the speaker.

+1

Thank god for abacus and andyjm for injecting some sanity back into this thread.

 

[CnoEvil]

+1

Thank god for abacus and andyjm for injecting some sanity back into this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA

*blum3*

 

[SemiChronic]

FWIW, my Tannoys came with some small jumpers

https://ibb.co/b0NMoF

 

[ellisdj]

Monitor audio platinum mk1 came with jumpers made from their own speaker cable.

I replaced them as well 🙂

 

[SemiChronic]

Ellis, i checked out some of your vids. Nice. I can only assume that your setup sounds incredible, youve gone to great lengths. I hope youre keeping it wife friendly 🙂

 

[ellisdj]

Lucky to have a wife still with this setup lol.

She hates it and hates the time I spend with it etc.

But I am sure she would hate it if I went off to football every weekend and got sloshed or was spending hours in the garage rebuilding a car etc.

I think all hobbies can become all consuming like hifi / av has for me.

Thanks for the kind comments btw I appreciate it.

 

[steve_1979]

+1

Thank god for abacus and andyjm for injecting some sanity back into this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA

*blum3*

*lol*

I kinda walked straight into that one.

 

[chebby]

Lucky to have a wife still with this setup lol.

She hates it and hates the time I spend with it etc.

At least it's something you can share, with a favourite movie, or have a bit of a boogie together now-and-then.

Can't do that with a classic car rebuild.

 

[ellisdj]

We used to watch films together now I have to sit out the back room to watch stuff together. She moans its too loud and too big. Oh well

I have 2 boys sure they will want to watch movies with me when they grow up. One is 4 and he has watched a few with me but its a bit intense for him too atm.

Its funny you mention classic car rebuilds etc. Sometimes you see a chap and his wife travelling along the motorway in a classic convertible and the wife always looks miserable and freezing. I guess thats them sharing his hobby the same.. 🙂

 

[lindsayt]

If you want to max out your links, why not just strip the right amount off the end of your speaker cables and use that to connect to both terminals for each polarity? In a so called "F" arrangement ("I" would be more representative)?

In that way you'd have one less join in your signal path.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

If you want to max out your links, why not just strip the right amount off the end of your speaker cables and use that to connect to both terminals for each polarity? In a so called "F" arrangement ("I" would be more representative)?

In that way you'd have one less join in your signal path.

so in other words you would use your actual speaker cable that you use to connect to amplifier instead of using any link at all so the bridge would be the actual speaker cables .

i can't really do that with my speaker cable as I am using the audioquest cables that are factory terminated and it will just ruin a good cable for nothing .

i only tried it out as I had some old atlas cable kicking around just to see if there ware a change .

 

[chebby]

... so in other words you would use your actual speaker cable that you use to connect to amplifier instead of using any link at all so the bridge would be the actual speaker cables .

 

[lindsayt]

I can understand your thinking on this Blacksabbath, especially if you're thinking of resale value, or keeping everything original.

If you ever fancy trying the "F" / "I" type speaker connection, just buy some 770 or 322 strand cable off ebay for £10 to £20 and cut the insulation off the ends to fit your terminals.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

*good* I've not got that kind of binding posts on the back of my speakers I have the large screw cap kind . I would have to put a different kind of binding post to do this .

Edit unless mine clamp the speaker cable in the large holes that's used for bear wire

 

[Blacksabbath25]

I can understand your thinking on this Blacksabbath, especially if you're thinking of resale value, or keeping everything original.

If you ever fancy trying the "F" / "I" type speaker connection, just buy some 770 or 322 strand cable off ebay for £10 to £20 and cut the insulation off the ends to fit your terminals.

no not really but the audioquest cable is solid core cable with conductors cables around the main core so that's why I did not want to unclamp the ends that's all