CD Transport - budget in the order of £1500
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Seems an awful lot to be putting aside for a transport. They have no effect on end sound beyond working properly or not working. I'd buy something cheaper like a good blu-ray player, perhaps one of the Oppo's? And save money.
Yes, but one thing to bear in mind is that the Sony transport can be noisy when accessing a disc. I found this when I used my S370 a couple of years back and it was noticeable.
You can, by all means pitch the Blu-Ray player as a source and they'll be fine. That's not the tail end of the story though and while I like what my Spitfire II DAC and S370 did, the noisy transport (which Sony may have dealt with now of course) put me off.
There is of course, the rationale that not everyone wants a cheap source player. If you're not bothered with it, then no issues, but some consumers will want something different. It's important to be able to recognise that and not keep pitching the "you don't need a fancy CD player, you can get a cheap DVD player from Sainsbury's!*" line.
* - other supermarkets are available.
You can, by all means pitch the Blu-Ray player as a source and they'll be fine. That's not the tail end of the story though and while I like what my Spitfire II DAC and S370 did, the noisy transport (which Sony may have dealt with now of course) put me off.
There is of course, the rationale that not everyone wants a cheap source player. If you're not bothered with it, then no issues, but some consumers will want something different. It's important to be able to recognise that and not keep pitching the "you don't need a fancy CD player, you can get a cheap DVD player from Sainsbury's!*" line.
* - other supermarkets are available.
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ifor said:
Once you have your upgraded DAC, you can use your existing Cyrus CD8SE as a transport only just by connecting them with optical cable (or digital coax) ...
...this will bypass the player's built-in DAC and save you £1500. (Minus the cost of a digital cable).
if you like the synergy between your amp and speakers i think you would be a lot better off putting the cash into an m2/caspian amp, those spendors deserve that.
Use the coax output of your CD8SE to connect to a dac and that is as good a transport as you need - Servo Evolution mechanism after all. You're better off spending the money elsewhere.
chebby said:ifor said:
Once you have your upgraded DAC, you can use your existing Cyrus CD8SE as a transport only just by connecting them with optical cable (or digital coax) ...
...this will bypass the player's built-in DAC and save you £1500. (Minus the cost of a digital cable).
That has not passed me by Chebby, and it is undoubtedly what will happen first after the purchase of a new DAC. I had previously considered getting a Cyrus QX 8 DAC and replacing my Roksan Kandy amp, but it didn't take many minutes of listening to the Cyrus on home loan to realise just how dreadful it sounds. The detail was amazing, but it wasn't anything I could enjoy listening to.
So whilst I appreciate that the CD transport in the Cyrus 8 SE is pretty damn good, I'm just exploring the options of what I could possibly do to better it.
the record spot said:There is of course, the rationale that not everyone wants a cheap source player. If you're not bothered with it, then no issues, but some consumers will want something different. It's important to be able to recognise that and not keep pitching the "you don't need a fancy CD player, you can get a cheap DVD player from Sainsbury's!*" line.
* - other supermarkets are available.
Thank you for your constructive comments. You are right, I do not want a DVD player or one of those blue things. I want a top quality CD transport for playing CDs. Suggesting I replace the CD 8 SE with a £100 multiplayer is quite simply ridiculous and I doubt it's Hi Fi either.
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Off-topic (sorry) but I am a bit envious of that 'Inspired' Manticore. (I almost bought the original Mantra in the mid 1980s but went for a Walker CJ55 + RB250 instead.)
I also used the Goldring 1042 for 11 years (including two replacement stylii) on a Planar 3.
I can only imagine how good your TT/arm/cart must sound.
I also used the Goldring 1042 for 11 years (including two replacement stylii) on a Planar 3.
I can only imagine how good your TT/arm/cart must sound.
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chebby said:ifor said:
Once you have your upgraded DAC, you can use your existing Cyrus CD8SE as a transport only just by connecting them with optical cable (or digital coax) ...
...this will bypass the player's built-in DAC and save you £1500. (Minus the cost of a digital cable).
+1 Chebby beat me to it again. Save your money.
ifor said:
If you want to upgrade - look at moorgate accoustics web site. They have some refurb Cyrus top CD transports at a very good price
ifor said:
It is not ridiculous to suggest that using a cheap transport would sound any different to your existing transport, or that your existing transport would not be perfectly good when used as a transport alone. What is ridiculous is the assertion that 'hifi' can only be good if it's expensive or that something is not 'hifi' because it's cheap.
It's your money and your decision to spend it however you like, but in this instance you need not spend much at all to achieve your aim, unless your aim is to spend £1500 or so.
BigH said:
Yes, it is up to me and I don't doubt that many are overpriced and not significantly better than some of the cheap CD players. The thing is, it's not one of those I want, which is why I asked the question in the first place hoping that I might find some guidance towards the really good ones.
chebby said:
I am pleased with it. I bought it second hand in the early '90s without an arm and had an Acos Lustre GST-1 that I already had fitted to it. I got the G1042 about 4 years ago and the Inspire makeover was last year. New arm, stiffened plinth, reveneered, acrylic platter instead of the original glass and Achrimat instead of the original fell mat. I think it is still the only Manticore Mantra that has been "Inspired".
if you want a top grade transport cyrus will convert your cd8se to a xtse 2 or whatever they call it these days for a few quid. now i guess if you think thats value for money and you have plans to improve the rest of your set up its gonna be hard to beat. add a psxr if your not using one already and its a top notch transport.
ifor said:
What do you think makes a good transport? What is it in this £1500 transport that you are looking for that a cheaper one would not give. People have given you perfectly good options that would not cost the earth and would provide you with all that is required as far as the sound goes. They won't have the Kudos of having another expensive box on the shelf though.
If you want to spend the amount that you mention, pick any CD player at or around the price and ones that you like the look of, because there really are no other variables apart from build quality, but even that can be had for a lot less. Your soon to be added DAC will be the leveller.
ifor said:
The REALLY good ones can get all the digital data off the disc and present it to your dac without changing any of that data. Which is pretty much all of them, regardless of price. Buy one you like the look of, because appearance is the only difference when using them purely as a transport into a competent dac.
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