Calibration Discussion.

[tele1962]

Hope this is OK as it is more for information about calibration rather than arguments for or against.

I put this question in the other thread but maybe it is better placed here. Does anyone know where I can get my Eye One LT meter profiled...........as cheaply as possible please.

 

[tele1962]

" £160 well spent the i1 display pro is fast, really fast even at 10ire.

It doesn't read 0ire on my VT65 so to do a BT1886 cal you need to enter the black reading manually into calman. Wouldn't know how do it other software.

bad that it doesn't read it - good means blacks lower than 0.003 ftl "

To be honest i don't have the cash for a new meter and if i can get my LT profiled i would be more than happy to stick with it.

 

[ellisdj]

Thats fair cop, mate, there is. Co in.Leicester ish area not sure the name. I would be interested to know how much it costs.

Youve more chance getting answer on avf i think

 

[tele1962]

I think you might be on about Kalibrate, Ricky J's company. I think i asked but it was still quite expensive.

 

[ellisdj]

Think calibrating metres is more aimed at proper i1 metres not the cheaper ones, they are disposable after 18 months - 2 years.

For a.metre that cost £1k that gets used a lot then the cost is worth it

 

[tele1962]

Think calibrating metres is more aimed at proper i1 metres not the cheaper ones, they are disposable after 18 months - 2 years.

For a.metre that cost £1k that gets used a lot then the cost is worth it

They are OK as long as you get them profiled maybe once a year.

 

[tele1962]

Replaced my meter with the i1 Display Pro, with quite astonishing results on my first calibration run.

 

[theflyingwasp]

Did you take a course in calibration? Can you buy the equipment and self teach?

 

[ellisdj]

So you did get 1 - v good metre worth the money.as i said.

Did you cal colour -2

Yes you can self teach

 

[tele1962]

Did you take a course in calibration? Can you buy the equipment and self teach?

No just got a little help from my fiends.

Yes you can buy the equipment.

 

[tele1962]

So you did get 1 - v good metre worth the money.as i said.

Did you cal colour -2

Yes you can self teach

Just left mine at default and the results are fantastic.

 

[bigboss]

Did you take a course in calibration? Can you buy the equipment and self teach?

Check latest Home Cinema Choice magazine. Steve Withers talks about calibration. His equipment is worth £10000.

 

[ellisdj]

Colour -2 is better look at skin tones and try it mate i promise

Doesnt mean we cant do great cals with the i1 display pro with the right software and test patterns BB

 

[theflyingwasp]

Did you take a course in calibration? Can you buy the equipment and self teach?

Check latest Home Cinema Choice magazine. Steve Withers talks about calibration. His equipment is worth £10000.

yes I saw the equipment he used back in October he explained it all and told me the cost of each thing.with respect to the people who have bought calibration equipment are you getting little jobs on the side as a calibrator.

i asked mr withers to re-book me for this October but he said i should see very little if any change in picture quality for at least 2 years.

i am very intrigued by the whole calibration thing tho ,the courses ain't cheap and the picture quality I have now compared to 3-4 years ago is night and day but if I did buy the equipment after taking the course then calibrated my 2 tvs again then my iMac screen I would have some very expensive equipment lying around possibly unused for many years.

like I said on another thread he did say to me the standard of the out of the box picture quality with last years flagship tvs were excellent my ZT required very little tinkering .as for the 3D out of the box it was all over the place.

 

[ellisdj]

Maybe in comparison to other screens, calibrating my Dads ZT i have found it needs as much calibrating as my VT it looked naff out of the box i thought in certain regards. Naff not strong enough word actually.

You dont need to go on a course to learn how to do it - maybe if you want do it for others charging full fee.

However i see it as a lifetime investment and a hobby skill to learn.

Just the same as measuring sound in a room. Everyone who cares about sound should know how to do this

 

[theflyingwasp]

Hey ellisdj your probably the one of the best people to ask about this, as I said I am very interested in the whole calibration thing .

have you found your dads ZT and your own screen shift quite a bit since you calibrated them?

i gave my ZT well over 200 hours before Steve calibrated it ,do you think since last October it could do with a wee tweak?

 

[theflyingwasp]

Mr withers did say he hadn't done an audio calibration in quite a while.whats your thoughts on that? I understand the burn in for speakers will be longer than a screen but with the high quality of amps out there now did you find a big difference when you audio calibrated? Is that a long complicated process?

im buying the pioneer lx87 and the monitor audio apex 7.1 later in the year. Do they partner well? Hence the reason I'm so interested in audio calibration aswell as video calibration.

 

[Paddyfin]

Steve did my calibration and I love the results

it was nice to have him here and explain all the calibrations he was making and why

as soon as I buy a 4k projector he will be back............ :cheers:

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Did you take a course in calibration? Can you buy the equipment and self teach?

Check latest Home Cinema Choice magazine. Steve Withers talks about calibration. His equipment is worth £10000.

yes I saw the equipment he used back in October he explained it all and told me the cost of each thing.with respect to the people who have bought calibration equipment are you getting little jobs on the side as a calibrator.

i asked mr withers to re-book me for this October but he said i should see very little if any change in picture quality for at least 2 years.

i am very intrigued by the whole calibration thing tho ,the courses ain't cheap and the picture quality I have now compared to 3-4 years ago is night and day but if I did buy the equipment after taking the course then calibrated my 2 tvs again then my iMac screen I would have some very expensive equipment lying around possibly unused for many years.

like I said on another thread he did say to me the standard of the out of the box picture quality with last years flagship tvs were excellent my ZT required very little tinkering .as for the 3D out of the box it was all over the place.

See talk like this makes me wonder if calibration is worth it for me? My picture is also excellent already too. I am also concerned about changing from normal settings will cause image retention?

 

[Series1boy]

Gel! From my first calibration I was very scepticle whether I would see an improvement the second time. When Vincent Teoh came round and did my calibration, the results are night and day between all of the standard modes already on the VT. The improvements are in the blacks and there is more punch in the colour. Skin tones are no longer green/yellow and they look more life like.

if you are passing through Yorkshire, you are more than welcome to come and have a look for your self, it is really worth it mate and I highly recomend Vincent!!

it was worth every penny!!

 

[theflyingwasp]

Did you take a course in calibration? Can you buy the equipment and self teach?

Check latest Home Cinema Choice magazine. Steve Withers talks about calibration. His equipment is worth £10000.

yes I saw the equipment he used back in October he explained it all and told me the cost of each thing.with respect to the people who have bought calibration equipment are you getting little jobs on the side as a calibrator.

i asked mr withers to re-book me for this October but he said i should see very little if any change in picture quality for at least 2 years.

i am very intrigued by the whole calibration thing tho ,the courses ain't cheap and the picture quality I have now compared to 3-4 years ago is night and day but if I did buy the equipment after taking the course then calibrated my 2 tvs again then my iMac screen I would have some very expensive equipment lying around possibly unused for many years.

like I said on another thread he did say to me the standard of the out of the box picture quality with last years flagship tvs were excellent my ZT required very little tinkering .as for the 3D out of the box it was all over the place.

See talk like this makes me wonder if calibration is worth it for me? My picture is also excellent already too. I am also concerned about changing from normal settings will cause image retention?

i hear what your saying gel but what you think is a good picture and what is the proper picture settings should be might be totally different .i don't doubt your VT has an excellent picture but after all you have spent on your home cinema set up the calibration is the last step

i can understand people with a budget tv not taking the leap as the calibration might be half the price of the tv but £3800'on my ZT then £200 for the calibration was an easy decision for me.

im sure Son_of_SJ will agree he thought he had an excellent picture then when mr withers took a pre calibration report his blue was off the chart ,little things like this make the calibration worthwhile.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Did you take a course in calibration? Can you buy the equipment and self teach?

Check latest Home Cinema Choice magazine. Steve Withers talks about calibration. His equipment is worth £10000.

yes I saw the equipment he used back in October he explained it all and told me the cost of each thing.with respect to the people who have bought calibration equipment are you getting little jobs on the side as a calibrator.

i asked mr withers to re-book me for this October but he said i should see very little if any change in picture quality for at least 2 years.

i am very intrigued by the whole calibration thing tho ,the courses ain't cheap and the picture quality I have now compared to 3-4 years ago is night and day but if I did buy the equipment after taking the course then calibrated my 2 tvs again then my iMac screen I would have some very expensive equipment lying around possibly unused for many years.

like I said on another thread he did say to me the standard of the out of the box picture quality with last years flagship tvs were excellent my ZT required very little tinkering .as for the 3D out of the box it was all over the place.

See talk like this makes me wonder if calibration is worth it for me? My picture is also excellent already too. I am also concerned about changing from normal settings will cause image retention?

i hear what your saying gel but what you think is a good picture and what is the proper picture settings should be might be totally different .i don't doubt your VT has an excellent picture but after all you have spent on your home cinema set up the calibration is the last step

i can understand people with a budget tv not taking the leap as the calibration might be half the price of the tv but £3800'on my ZT then £200 for the calibration was an easy decision for me.

im sure Son_of_SJ will agree he thought he had an excellent picture then when mr withers took a pre calibration report his blue was off the chart ,little things like this make the calibration worthwhile.

What do you think about image retention with being off the normal settings?

 

[bigboss]

What do you think about image retention with being off the normal settings?

If anything, calibration will reduce the chances of IR.

 

[ellisdj]

The picture on these plasmas ia nothing out of the box compared to calibrated - there is no 2 ways about it.

To wasp audio calibration wow i could teach you loads in this regard but better off doing basics right - this is another thread topic.

I like ma with pioneer amps but i wouldnt scrimp or use silver plated speaker wire as a start

Its worth considering the new anthems - personally i wouldnt touch anything less than the 710 - its a mistake in my eyes to scrimp and buy the 510! A big mistake!! i think the eq curve the new arc aims for is better than the stupid flat response thats mostly used. We do not hear bass linear quite the opposite!

Demo is good advice - the sacrufice of an apple link to the av receiver is worth it if its going to be better - just use it another way

Back on topic tv calibration is not hard its actually easy but like anything takes practice and it wont be perfect first time.

I dont believe the tv will drift that soon - you wont need it calibrating again for ages unless you.want.something changed. Stop worrying about it

 

[theflyingwasp]

To gel - I'm glad you mentioned image retention with the ZT i get image burn with the oppo home screen for a few minutes every time I turn it on ?

To ellisdj - yes maybe the apple airplay thing can be sacrificed .it was a bit of a deal breaker but I'm getting into headphones a lot now ,yes the anthems have been getting good reviews,I have my heart set on the monitor audio apex 7.1 tho I will ask nearer the time what you guys think will be the best partner for it.

as for the demos I'm not sure what to do the now closed home cinema centre and James morrow demo rooms were massive compared to my home cinema room I just feel I will get a false sense of sound if you know what I mean.

As for the audio calibration with pretty much a perfect square room with 3 stone walls with the tv 10 ft in front of me will an audio calibration be needed or is there a lot I'm not thinking about?