title self explanitory really, anything out there supporting these and if so any honest opinions on them, I'm desperatly trying to avoid apple
buying advice please, flac support, large memory and or sdhc slot/s, wifi and or bluetooth audio output
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Alec
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I spent ages avoiding Apple as I didn't just want to follow the herd. Had a Sony MP3 player for years and was very happy with it, but when I came to replace it, I had a listen to a few players and have ended up getting an iPod Touch as it really was the best player around. (And the software is so much better than the software I had to use with the Sony player.)
Don't just avoid Apple for the sake of it, give an iPod a listen and make your choice on that instead.
Don't just avoid Apple for the sake of it, give an iPod a listen and make your choice on that instead.
Ipods don't play FLAC. (and neither do Sony's)
What do you mean by wifi and or bluetooth audio output? If you actually want to use wireless headphones this would seriously limit the your choice of players. Sony has it on some models, but you'll need a bluetooth headset ofcourse. And they don't play FLAC as you require.
Brands that have players supporting FLAC:
COWON, Iriver, Samsung (I'd only consider the P3 model) and Sandisk. I can recommend both Cowon and Iriver's offerings. Never heard the Samsung P3, but it's said to be rather excellent.
peter8171:
And the software is so much better than the software I had to use with the Sony player.)
This must have been a while ago. I plug my Sony in and simply dump folders on it with Explorer. The same goes for my Cowon and the Irivers I've seen. My iPod on the other hand requires iTunes, which I find rather backward.
What do you mean by wifi and or bluetooth audio output? If you actually want to use wireless headphones this would seriously limit the your choice of players. Sony has it on some models, but you'll need a bluetooth headset ofcourse. And they don't play FLAC as you require.
Brands that have players supporting FLAC:
COWON, Iriver, Samsung (I'd only consider the P3 model) and Sandisk. I can recommend both Cowon and Iriver's offerings. Never heard the Samsung P3, but it's said to be rather excellent.
peter8171:
And the software is so much better than the software I had to use with the Sony player.)
This must have been a while ago. I plug my Sony in and simply dump folders on it with Explorer. The same goes for my Cowon and the Irivers I've seen. My iPod on the other hand requires iTunes, which I find rather backward.
sonycentre
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I felt the same,did not want to go down the apple road,but my work mate has a i-pod classic,He loves it to bits.Myself i had a sony nwa808,loved it to bits,used to use sonic stage and the atrac3 used to really bring the sound alive(but not everyone liked sonicstage)then for christmas i upgraded to a x-1060...........wow sorry but for me trouces the ipod for sound,test along with my work mates i-pod classic and found the sony more open fuller sounding.we used my Sennheiser CX300(using wipes after each use)lol.I do like the interface of the i-pod,but for me the sony wins everytime,and it was sony that started the whole thing off with the walkman way back in 1978 with cassettes.
Alec
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al7478:
KevinOK:Ipods don't play FLAC. (and neither do Sony's)
Good point well made.
Use MediaMonkey and set it to transcode FLAC to WAV on syncing (and any other incompatible formats). Works a treat. I have a few thousands songs with 80% of them being FLAC. It's also just a much better program than iTunes if maybe not as flashy looking or ultra-intuitive.
KevinOK:Ipods don't play FLAC. (and neither do Sony's)
Good point well made.
Use MediaMonkey and set it to transcode FLAC to WAV on syncing (and any other incompatible formats). Works a treat. I have a few thousands songs with 80% of them being FLAC. It's also just a much better program than iTunes if maybe not as flashy looking or ultra-intuitive.
I think the Samsung P3 is the only player that fits all of your demands since I just read that it also supports audio streaming over bluetooth. I hesitate to recommend it since I haven't heard it myself and it's pretty expensive. But if you search you'll find that on some specialized forums people rate the SQ of it's predecessor (P2) highly, on par with Sony.
How important is wireless streaming to headphones to you? Not only does it limit the choice of players, perhaps more importantly: it limits your choice in quality headphones. Ofcourse the Samsung will be good with a wired headphone too, but then Cowon's and Iriver's players are more affordable.
I assumed FLAC support was a hard demand (since I really appreciate FLAC support too), but if you're willing to transcode FLAC files, like Beta4Me suggests, there's lots more possibilities. You could get a Sony which is excellent, or an iPod Touch. I wouldn't recommend an iPod over the others I mentioned for SQ (Mind you the Touch's lesser SQ might not matter if you're not going to get good third party headphones anyway). But the Touch does have redeeming qualities like a good GUI, wifi and a rather good internet browser, which is very neat. The Touch is also very cheap compared to Sony or Samsung. Oh and it looks pretty ofcourse.
How important is wireless streaming to headphones to you? Not only does it limit the choice of players, perhaps more importantly: it limits your choice in quality headphones. Ofcourse the Samsung will be good with a wired headphone too, but then Cowon's and Iriver's players are more affordable.
I assumed FLAC support was a hard demand (since I really appreciate FLAC support too), but if you're willing to transcode FLAC files, like Beta4Me suggests, there's lots more possibilities. You could get a Sony which is excellent, or an iPod Touch. I wouldn't recommend an iPod over the others I mentioned for SQ (Mind you the Touch's lesser SQ might not matter if you're not going to get good third party headphones anyway). But the Touch does have redeeming qualities like a good GUI, wifi and a rather good internet browser, which is very neat. The Touch is also very cheap compared to Sony or Samsung. Oh and it looks pretty ofcourse.
Teclast T51 is supposed to be a good one as is the earlier T50 ,i have one
The T51 has bigger screen twin dacs and does everthing u need
Mark
The T51 has bigger screen twin dacs and does everthing u need
Mark
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