Hello was thinking of getting a set of new front speakers and i'm torn between the B&W 683 and the 684s! I'm not sure what the better buy would be as haven't heard many reviews for the 683s. They will be used for music and movies through an onkyo 875
B&W 683 or 684?
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Hi,
at the moment, I own a set of 603's (S3) which are comparable to the new 684. I'm very pleased with those since they have enough power handling and bass available for my room. Moreover, I found them more to be clearer in the mid's than they're 3 way, larger brothers.
For this reason, I'd advice: check what you need in terms of volume and sound. Since you work in a surround environment, also make sure that you don't over 'bass' the place
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grts
at the moment, I own a set of 603's (S3) which are comparable to the new 684. I'm very pleased with those since they have enough power handling and bass available for my room. Moreover, I found them more to be clearer in the mid's than they're 3 way, larger brothers.
For this reason, I'd advice: check what you need in terms of volume and sound. Since you work in a surround environment, also make sure that you don't over 'bass' the place
)grts
Just in case you can compare:
The speaker stand in a listening room of 4 by 4,5 meters. This is not huge, but can give you an indication!
The speaker stand in a listening room of 4 by 4,5 meters. This is not huge, but can give you an indication!
Dave_
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not sure about the 683's as have'nt heard them, but i wouldn't go for the 684's for a small room think they'd be overkill. i have them in a room 7m by 7m and there more than capable of filling larger than that,,, oh and upsetting the neighbours.
I had a 684's and 683's, also tried both of them with onkyo 875. 683 is better than 684. More cohesive, more muscular, wider stage, more detail. I rec. 683's, and they are very good with onkyo-875.
I'd go with the 683's over the 684's as well as they have just that bit better soundstage which is more open and cohesive. The bass they produce is incredible
BUT
For your size room id say they'd be way overkill; even the 684's as well.
Theyre large speakers and ned to be driven well to get the best out of them.
Have you considered the B&W 685's with decent stands; these speakers produce superb bass for their size and are plenty powerful enough to fill the size of your room.
If youre looking at the 683/684 speakers; for that budget you could get the B&W 685s on Partington Dreadnought stands and IMO that would be a superb combination!
BUT
For your size room id say they'd be way overkill; even the 684's as well.
Theyre large speakers and ned to be driven well to get the best out of them.
Have you considered the B&W 685's with decent stands; these speakers produce superb bass for their size and are plenty powerful enough to fill the size of your room.
If youre looking at the 683/684 speakers; for that budget you could get the B&W 685s on Partington Dreadnought stands and IMO that would be a superb combination!
Hi everyone thank you very much for you're input it's appreciated. Only reason i asked was i am going to buy a house in the new year not sure how big it will be yet but i'm not loaded or anything so it probably won't have a 10m by 10m lounge but just wanted to future proof my system and i have been offered an extemely good price on the 684 and 683 so just wanted to know the best buy if the 683's aren't a huge jump in quality then i won't get them. But if the difference between the two is very noticable then i might be tempted.
Id still aim for the 683's then
IMO; they are just that bit better when it comes to bass response and overall soundstage
IMO; they are just that bit better when it comes to bass response and overall soundstage
I found the 683's needed to be driven hard and even so only sounded their best at high volumes, ideal for large spaces. I much preferred the 684's for normal listening in an average sized room. They're both good speakers but I think the extra bass on the 683's drown some of the detail the 684 bring at lower volumes.
I had both of 684's and 683's. Roksan Kandy matched with them. I can easiliy say that, difference between the 684 and 683 is not only bass(least important difference). In 683 detail was superbly well. Mid Range dirver is same with 8xx series. This midrange driver creates teh whole difference. Clarity, wide stage, pure music etc.... Also 683's have very strong bass drivers. Of course this is a difference between 683 and 684 but this is not the real difference between two of them. 684's also have a strong bass, but midrange driver also creates the midrange bass and it is ruining all musicality. Also 683' are far more coherent than 684's. I do not say 684's are bad speakers, they are good, but 683's are superb.
And 683's are giving a superb performance at low volume levels. You do not need to volume up to hear better volume. If someone has this kind of problem, this is a problem about power. If you dirve 683's with a 40 watt amp yes you have to raise the volume, but if you dirve them something like Roksan Kandy, in the lowest volume you hear every detail.
Last word, you have to burn 683's at least 50-75 hours to get the real performance. After this they will sing....
And 683's are giving a superb performance at low volume levels. You do not need to volume up to hear better volume. If someone has this kind of problem, this is a problem about power. If you dirve 683's with a 40 watt amp yes you have to raise the volume, but if you dirve them something like Roksan Kandy, in the lowest volume you hear every detail.
Last word, you have to burn 683's at least 50-75 hours to get the real performance. After this they will sing....
ok cheers everyone i'll have to have a trial run but glad to hear arguments on both sides i know what to look out for now i will keep you posted about the decision thank you.
Dennis Michos
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Today I had the chance to listen to both of them with Rega Mira/Saturn combination and Cyrus 8 amp/CD
I liked them both but IMHO the 683 had better soundstage(is this the correct word??). Not sure of course if this difference in sound worth the 400 euros price difference. I don't know why people say that the 683 didn't have highlly acclaimed reviews....probably at that price you can find better speakers (trying to guess) but what I've listened from the 683 was really good (not an expert though)
I liked them both but IMHO the 683 had better soundstage(is this the correct word??). Not sure of course if this difference in sound worth the 400 euros price difference. I don't know why people say that the 683 didn't have highlly acclaimed reviews....probably at that price you can find better speakers (trying to guess) but what I've listened from the 683 was really good (not an expert though)
Hello,
Recently I had the same dilema and brought home the 683 and 684 and liked much more the sound of the 684, it partnered perfectly with the NAD amp.
The 683 had more bass, but the 684 were more dynamic in the mids and more resolution, this combined with the bass that it's real good gives a suberb system, I posted here and everyone advised me the 684 and I advise the same, this is if you haven't decided until today...
Val
Recently I had the same dilema and brought home the 683 and 684 and liked much more the sound of the 684, it partnered perfectly with the NAD amp.
The 683 had more bass, but the 684 were more dynamic in the mids and more resolution, this combined with the bass that it's real good gives a suberb system, I posted here and everyone advised me the 684 and I advise the same, this is if you haven't decided until today...
Val
I auditioned the B&W 684, 683, and CM7's. I was torn between the CM7's and the 683's. I you can slightly increase your budget go for the CM7's they have greater midrange detail, and less muddy bass. Hard to describe it in fact, the 683's are exceptional speakers, just the CM7's are slightly better
mattread1:Hello was thinking of getting a set of new front speakers and i'm torn between the B&W 683 and the 684s! I'm not sure what the better buy would be as haven't heard many reviews for the 683s. They will be used for music and movies through an onkyo 875
The short answer is that the ones you like the sound of best are the better speaker... Also curious as to whether you've auditioned any other brands. I listened to 10 or 11 pairs when buying my kit and the 684's didn't even make my top 3.
The short answer is that the ones you like the sound of best are the better speaker... Also curious as to whether you've auditioned any other brands. I listened to 10 or 11 pairs when buying my kit and the 684's didn't even make my top 3.
Infrno:
mattread1:Hello was thinking of getting a set of new front speakers and i'm torn between the B&W 683 and the 684s! I'm not sure what the better buy would be as haven't heard many reviews for the 683s. They will be used for music and movies through an onkyo 875
The short answer is that the ones you like the sound of best are the better speaker... Also curious as to whether you've auditioned any other brands. I listened to 10 or 11 pairs when buying my kit and the 684's didn't even make my top 3.
Hi Infrno,
Which speakers did you audition and which ones did you decide on? I'm also about to add new speakers to my hi fi kit and was also looking at the B&W 683.
My kit consists of CD player : Rotel RCD 1072
Stereo amp : Rotel RC 1082
Power amp : Rotel RB 1080 - 200watts per channel
mattread1:Hello was thinking of getting a set of new front speakers and i'm torn between the B&W 683 and the 684s! I'm not sure what the better buy would be as haven't heard many reviews for the 683s. They will be used for music and movies through an onkyo 875
The short answer is that the ones you like the sound of best are the better speaker... Also curious as to whether you've auditioned any other brands. I listened to 10 or 11 pairs when buying my kit and the 684's didn't even make my top 3.
Hi Infrno,
Which speakers did you audition and which ones did you decide on? I'm also about to add new speakers to my hi fi kit and was also looking at the B&W 683.
My kit consists of CD player : Rotel RCD 1072
Stereo amp : Rotel RC 1082
Power amp : Rotel RB 1080 - 200watts per channel
Hi Mattread1, I have the 683s - they are FANTASTIC! I had (until last week) Arcam electronics and had auditioned both the 684s and the 683s - the 683s won on midrange and bass. This combination with the Arcam was a bit subdued but still very pleasant, particularly listening to classical piano. I wanted something with more detail and needed a more powerful amp so I have now changed electronics to Cyrus and the Cyrus 6SE, 8vs2 / B&W 683 combination is something else! The 683s are in a quite large room, which is good as I think they would be too much for a small room. They also need a reasonably powerful amp or the bass sounds "mushy" (sorry about the terminology, I am no hifi guru...).
Hope this helps.
D
Hope this helps.
D
Charl:Infrno:
mattread1:Hello was thinking of getting a set of new front speakers and i'm torn between the B&W 683 and the 684s! I'm not sure what the better buy would be as haven't heard many reviews for the 683s. They will be used for music and movies through an onkyo 875
The short answer is that the ones you like the sound of best are the better speaker... Also curious as to whether you've auditioned any other brands. I listened to 10 or 11 pairs when buying my kit and the 684's didn't even make my top 3.
Hi Infrno,
Which speakers did you audition and which ones did you decide on? I'm also about to add new speakers to my hi fi kit and was also looking at the B&W 683.
>
B&W 684/5
Tannoy Revolution Signature DC6T
MA RS6 Silver
Dynaudio Excite X32
Couple of pairs of German KEC things
Kef iq70
Mission M35i
and some I forget
The B&W and the Tannoy's were demo'd on full Cyrus cd and amplification. The B&W's seemed lacking in any kind of enthusiasm and I actually had to turn them down during a particular classical piece as it was just unpleasant. The Tannoy's were superb and jsut pipped the RS6 to top spot. Dynaudio came in thrid, very competent and smooth.
ended up buying the RS6's and a Yam DSP z7 and it's a great combo..From movies through music and everything from prodigy to Radio Tarifa I've not found anything it doesn't handle superbly.
mattread1:Hello was thinking of getting a set of new front speakers and i'm torn between the B&W 683 and the 684s! I'm not sure what the better buy would be as haven't heard many reviews for the 683s. They will be used for music and movies through an onkyo 875
The short answer is that the ones you like the sound of best are the better speaker... Also curious as to whether you've auditioned any other brands. I listened to 10 or 11 pairs when buying my kit and the 684's didn't even make my top 3.
Hi Infrno,
Which speakers did you audition and which ones did you decide on? I'm also about to add new speakers to my hi fi kit and was also looking at the B&W 683.
>
B&W 684/5
Tannoy Revolution Signature DC6T
MA RS6 Silver
Dynaudio Excite X32
Couple of pairs of German KEC things
Kef iq70
Mission M35i
and some I forget
The B&W and the Tannoy's were demo'd on full Cyrus cd and amplification. The B&W's seemed lacking in any kind of enthusiasm and I actually had to turn them down during a particular classical piece as it was just unpleasant. The Tannoy's were superb and jsut pipped the RS6 to top spot. Dynaudio came in thrid, very competent and smooth.
ended up buying the RS6's and a Yam DSP z7 and it's a great combo..From movies through music and everything from prodigy to Radio Tarifa I've not found anything it doesn't handle superbly.
PSYris
Well-known member
Thanks for your help, My dream-long A/V sytem is just a set of front speakers away. Being a sworn B&W fan I have had my eyes on a pair of 684's, but having read your thread I'm rethinking maybe I should consider the extra outlay and go for the 683's. As i'm about to buy a house with my partner this will probably be the last item I will buy for a long while. But can't complain anymore: SONY 46W4000 TV, SONY 5400ES surround amp, SONY 5000ES Blu-Ray player, MUSICAL FIDELITY A3 CD player, 400gig Mediagate with complimentary 1 Tb Harddrive, B&W HTM62 centre channel, B&W 602 S3 front speakers (Soon to become surround speakers), B&W ASW 350 Subwoofer all hooked up with QED silver anniversary speaker cable and 2m + 0.5m QUNEX hdmi cables. Thanks again, an extra AUS$500 to upgrade from 684's to 683's really sounds like the way to go. Cheers from all the way down under
I've heard the 684 s2's, but I felt that they didn't have enough low end. I don't really have a good place to have a sub. Is the 683 S2's way overkill? I've been in two speaker stores. A guy in the one store said that floorstanders is too much for a small room, but the guy in the other store said that it was fine. What do you think? Would you recommend the 683 S2's or an other speaker?
I am in the process of buying a 5.1 setup for a home cinema. The 684 s2 setup on paper seems good. All having equal 5 inch mid/bass on the 684/686/htm62.
Whereas the 683s2 has 6 inch mid, 685 has 6.5 mid/bass and htm61 has 4 in midrange.
Looking at this would the 684 s2 sound balanced than the 683 s2. 5.1 setup.
My room size would be 15 ft across and 22 feet deep. 8feet high ceiling.
Whereas the 683s2 has 6 inch mid, 685 has 6.5 mid/bass and htm61 has 4 in midrange.
Looking at this would the 684 s2 sound balanced than the 683 s2. 5.1 setup.
My room size would be 15 ft across and 22 feet deep. 8feet high ceiling.
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