Leeps said:
Snikoes said:
Leeps said:
I think the reason why it does this is because if it detects that your speakers are full range & not small satellite speakers, it assumes the 'large' setting and yes, it will send the full frequency range to your speakers & the low frequencies as well to your sub.
But in practice this results in a slow bloated languid sound; far better to change the speakers back to small again after the MCACC, then as you intended, only frequencies above the selected crossover will be sent to the main speakers.
Once you've changed back to 'small' it should sound much faster, more punchy & lively.
Thanks. I made the change you suggested after making the post. I have found the changes in sound to be exactly as you describe.
Im curious to know why Q5 is suggesting rerunning MCCAC as I would have thought it would get me to the same place?
I don't know. I would think as long as you run MCACC
after setting the speakers to small, that levels & bass management would be set accordingly. But from memory each time you run MCACC it tends to change the speakers back to large again anyway, hence the need to double-check this at the end.
By selecting Auto MCACC - custom - keep settings, it will not change the speakers to large. By setting the speakers to small instead of large the speaker levels etc will be different, that is why you need to re run MCACC.
There is a lot more to setting up a Pioneer amp than just running the auto set up and I would recommend looking into it further.
The difference in a well setup Pioneer is well worth the time. Also if you have a SPL meter set this up and adjust the speaker levels for each speaker manually.
I found this quite useful when i first started and have made my own tweaks since, a friend of mine also tried this and liked the difference. My amp is a LX85 so apologies if the LX87 menus are different.
MCACC Advanced Setup
[*]Set Receiver to MCACC pre-set 1 (M1). Now Run
Auto MCACC in your listening position so the mic is where your ears are during listening.
2) Go into
Manual SP Setup and change the
SP settings if necessary (crossover to 80hz for me and speakers to small)
3) Now re-run
Auto MCACC but select custom, and then select
Keep SP settings.
4) Now you have an Auto MCACC calibration saved to M1 (....note: you
must select which pre-set you want Auto MCACC to save calibration data to
before you enter the audio setup menu.) Now go into
Data Management--------> Data Copy and copy M1's data to M2 and also to M3. Now you have carbon copies of this calibration in M1-M3.
5) Now go into
Manual MCACC--->EQ Professional------>Reverb Measurement and get a reading on the frequency response characteristics of your room. Be sure to select EQ OFF (standing waves not controlled for via MCACC filters) in the
Reverb Measurement menu because
you don't want the standing wave adjustments (EQ on) to be factored in
to the room reverb measurements. Also make sure you haven't moved the mic.
6) After test tones are done, go into
Manual MCACC--->EQ Professional------>Reverb View,
and you can analyse the frequency response of individual channels at
various frequencies. Based upon that data, you would select the
appropriate capture delay time for MCACC to capture data during for the
upcoming EQ calibration.
Change that time frame under
Manual MCACC--->EQ Professional------>Advanced EQ Setup to whatever you decide is the appropriate capture delay time ....(Pioneer recommends 30-50 ms,
but they encourage you to analyse the data under reverb view first and
refer to the advanced MCACC software manual for analysis purposes).
Note: the default capture delay time is than 80-160 ms.
7) Change to MCACC pre-set 2 (M2) before you run the new advanced EQ calibration with the new capture time. Go under
Manual MCACC--->EQ Professional------>Advanced EQ Setup to
start the advanced EQ calibration, and MCACC should make a more
accurate calibration since it will now capture sonic information sooner
after the speakers output sound, and get a read on what the frequency
response is of the speakers themselves, and not the speakers and all the
reverb which accumulates as time passes. (Default capture time is
80-160 ms and thus collects more reverb and less true speaker reading)
Now you should have an accurate calibration. Also, now you can easily
compare the Auto MCACC EQ effects that are stored in M1 with the
advanced EQ effects in M2 while listening to content with a simple
button press on the remote. You could also juice the base a few dB in
M3, and also compare running the base a bit hot to a flat calibration
that you have in M1 and M2.
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