audyssey setup with denon 3310

[micks_address]

Hi Folks,

I ran audyssey setup with my Denon over the weekend and have a question about the crossovers it set for my speakers.. It set my Fronts to 60hz crossovers and Surrounds to 40hz crossovers.. from reading the specs of my speakers - the r90hds start and 80hz and the 225hds start at 60 hz.. should i change the crossover settings to these to 80 for each? Also audyssey set my centre channel at -7db.. which is a couple of db lower than my fronts.. so to get clear dialog i have to turn up the volume which gives me sometimes overpowering surround sound.. is the solution to up the centre channel level a couple of db?

Thanks,

Mick

 

[Big Chris]

Yeah Mick, manually change them all to 80hz (or you might want to try 100hz) and up the dbs on the centre channel.

Auto set-ups go so far, but aren't perfect.

 

[micks_address]

Thanks Chris, will give it a go this evening - would you say the centre channel should be roughly around the same db level as the left/right?

Cheers,

Mick

 

[Big Chris]

I'd say so, yes.

 

[ric71]

i agree, set them all to 80 or 90 hz up the db on the centre to desired level. audyssey doesnt always get it right. you may well find you need to increase the db on the sub as well.set the low pass filter in the bass settings for lfe to 120hz as the lfe channel plays bass from 120hz and this is not a cross over.

i would re run audyssey anyway and then double check settings with an spl meter and tape measure. maplins sell a good meter for less than £20.

 

[Dermondo]

micks_address:

Hi Folks,

I ran audyssey setup with my Denon over the weekend and have a question about the crossovers it set for my speakers.. It set my Fronts to 60hz crossovers and Surrounds to 40hz crossovers.. from reading the specs of my speakers - the r90hds start and 80hz and the 225hds start at 60 hz.. should i change the crossover settings to these to 80 for each? Also audyssey set my centre channel at -7db.. which is a couple of db lower than my fronts.. so to get clear dialog i have to turn up the volume which gives me sometimes overpowering surround sound.. is the solution to up the centre channel level a couple of db?

Thanks,

Mick

Hi Mick as a matter of interest did you use a tripod with mic set up in the listening position.

 

[michael hoy]

ric71:
i agree, set them all to 80 or 90 hz up the db on the centre to desired level. audyssey doesnt always get it right. you may well find you need to increase the db on the sub as well.set the low pass filter in the bass settings for lfe to 120hz as the lfe channel plays bass from 120hz and this is not a cross over.

i would re run audyssey anyway and then double check settings with an spl meter and tape measure. maplins sell a good meter for less than £20.

I always check my speaker levels with a meter after running the auto setup, I have found the Pioneer MCACC to do a better job than the Denon audyssey.

 

[f1only]

michael hoy:ric71:

i agree, set them all to 80 or 90 hz up the db on the centre to desired level. audyssey doesnt always get it right. you may well find you need to increase the db on the sub as well.set the low pass filter in the bass settings for lfe to 120hz as the lfe channel plays bass from 120hz and this is not a cross over.

i would re run audyssey anyway and then double check settings with an spl meter and tape measure. maplins sell a good meter for less than £20.

I always check my speaker levels with a meter after running the auto setup, I have found the Pioneer MCACC to do a better job than the Denon audyssey.

+1

Same here had to set the Denon +3db more on the centre speaker to get it right.

 

[micks_address]

Hi, yes,i actually did use a tripod.. it bought a cheap one in 'lidl' for 10 euro over the weekend.. i set it at ear height and placed it on my sofas at the relevant positions.. i had run it last week using a chair to place the mic on and i got different results so i guess it pays to use a tripod.. i have read that if your seating position is in the room well away from the walls then you should place the mic behind the sofa's to get a more 'envolved' sound in the room.. anyway i think its fine for the moment.. i upped the crossovers to 80hz last night and they seem grand.. the centre channel is only a couple of db lower than the left/right so i'm going to leave as is for the moment.. the sub is at -9db.. ive read that if its set to -12db you should turn the volume/gain down and run audessy again - but - have it set just below midway on my sub,. so i guess its ok..

Dermondo:micks_address:

Hi Folks,

I ran audyssey setup with my Denon over the weekend and have a question about the crossovers it set for my speakers.. It set my Fronts to 60hz crossovers and Surrounds to 40hz crossovers.. from reading the specs of my speakers - the r90hds start and 80hz and the 225hds start at 60 hz.. should i change the crossover settings to these to 80 for each? Also audyssey set my centre channel at -7db.. which is a couple of db lower than my fronts.. so to get clear dialog i have to turn up the volume which gives me sometimes overpowering surround sound.. is the solution to up the centre channel level a couple of db?

Thanks,

Mick

Hi Mick as a matter of interest did you use a tripod with mic set up in the listening position.

 

[micks_address]

i have a radioshack spl that i bought a few years ago but i've never actually used it!

ric71:

i agree, set them all to 80 or 90 hz up the db on the centre to desired level. audyssey doesnt always get it right. you may well find you need to increase the db on the sub as well.set the low pass filter in the bass settings for lfe to 120hz as the lfe channel plays bass from 120hz and this is not a cross over.

i would re run audyssey anyway and then double check settings with an spl meter and tape measure. maplins sell a good meter for less than £20.

 

[Pikman]

I have a question as I am setting up a 2310 and I assume it will be similar. Finally have my sub plugged in. When I run the setup should I have the sub gain (low and high) set to max? Currently it is half way, not sure if that will throw off the setup at all?

 

[Tom Moreno]

micks_address:
i have a radioshack spl that i bought a few years ago but i've never actually used it!

ric71:

i agree, set them all to 80 or 90 hz up the db on the centre to desired level. audyssey doesnt always get it right. you may well find you need to increase the db on the sub as well.set the low pass filter in the bass settings for lfe to 120hz as the lfe channel plays bass from 120hz and this is not a cross over.

i would re run audyssey anyway and then double check settings with an spl meter and tape measure. maplins sell a good meter for less than £20.

The Radio Shack meter is better for calibration than the Maplins meter. It's better to use an analogue meter than digital especially for subwoofer. When you run tones through your sub you'll see the needle swing back and forth over a few dBs and you take the middle of the range as the reading.

Another pointer that I keep repeating...

If you plan to use Audyssey's Dynamic EQ (which does really nicely for lower level listening) I would run the tones off of a disc after the auto setup has been completed with the dynamic EQ engaged and Dyn Volume off. The levels between channels get played with a bit in the Dyn EQ mode, so if you set the levels with the mode engaged you'll be golden. Using the AVR's built in tones defeats all the EQ circuitry so if your EQ curve takes a chunk out of your centre or adds a lift to your surrounds, taking a measurement of the AVR's tones will not compensate for this and running a set of tones off a disc through the EQ circuitry will allow you to take measurements of the channel via the full processing path.