Anyone using Lion OS X yet?

[MajorFubar]

What you running? My MBP is a 2.4ghz core2duo, so pretty old.

Same as you: it's a Apple Mac Mini (MC270LL/A) with a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 320GB HDD and 2GB RAM.

I must say, as a long-time Windows user, £21 to upgrade to the newest OS seems to be good value compared to the price you would pay to upgrade to the latest Windows OS. I suppose a cynic could argue that Lion OS X is just the equivalent of a ‘service pack’ which MS would give you for free, but me being totally new to the Mac world I don’t know enough to put an argument either way. It just seems a good price.

 

[Paul.]

There is no pleasing those Cynics. And there was 10.6 through to 10.6.8 before 10.7 came out. Those same cynics said Snow Leopard was a minor update, when Apple re wrote the code base from the ground up to make it more efficient. If Microsoft pulled a 'snow leopard' mayby Windows would be a little snappier on low powered machines

 

[garyw77]

Have upgraded to Lion on my 27" imac with no issues at all.

All programmes and applications working, including the complete Microsoft Office suite 2008 (There is no need to go upgrading to the 2011 version).

For the music side of things, to which i suppose is more relevant here, i have kept Snow Leopard on my Mac Mini.

There's a couple of reasons here:

I run the Pure Music programme (which is superb by the way) and they state the following

Pure Music is compatible with Lion (including 64 bit iTunes) and the new Mac Mini.

However, unless you have a pressing need to update an existing machine, allow the dust to settle on Lion for awhile. It's prudent to wait at least until the first dot update (e.g., 10.7.1) is released by Apple.

and also -
"Integer" (nonmixable integer streams) support apparently has been eliminated in Lion, at least at the current time.

What is more important i think, and the larger concern, is to be sure your audio device / DAC (and your NAS, if using a NAS for storage) is compatible with Lion (check with the manufacturer).

Don't think of upgrading to Lion unless you are 100% sure.

In my case i don't think the drivers are out yet for my Young DAC so i'm holding fire ....

When they are i shall be moving on up as i do like the new Lion OS

 

[roger06]

I've upgraded. Went to rip a CD today and got the error message...

The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer.

Hmm. So tried another two CDs and the same problem. Oh dear oh dear oh dear...

Can't write to my WD AS drive either.

Edit : ok, repaired permissions and CD issue seems resolved...

 

[MajorFubar]

Well I took the plunge, seeling that Apple were offering it to me for $0.00 seeing tha I'm a recent Mac purchaser.

First impressions? Bit buggy (I've sure this will be soved with updates) and features such as the reverse scrolling are no use to me really because I don't have a trackpad (yet) but these can be turned off.

There seems to be some very powerful negative vibes about it 'out there' from people who don't like the new features, but hey it's only a $30/£21 upgrade, I reckon you get a lot. No one makes you use the new features, and not much has been taken away unless you relied on Rosetta and Front Row.

Producers are complaining that Protools doesn't run on it, but that's not Apple's fault: the Gold Master has been around since 1 July and near-complete beta versions have been around since long before that. Many other software cos. are up to speed.

Overall, I reckon it's ok.

 

[MajorFubar]

Well I took the plunge last week, seeing that Apple were offering it to me for £0.00 as I'm a recent Mac purchaser.

First impressions? Bit buggy (I'm sure this will be solved with updates) and features such as the reverse scrolling are no use to me really because I don't have a trackpad (yet) but these can be turned off.

There seems to be some very powerful negative vibes about it 'out there' from people who don't like the new features, but hey it's only a $30/£21 upgrade, I reckon you get a lot. No one makes you use the new features, and not much has been taken away unless you relied on Rosetta and Front Row.

Producers are complaining that Protools doesn't run on it, but that's not Apple's fault: the Gold Master has been around since 1 July and near-complete beta versions have been around since long before that. Many other software cos. are up to speed.

Overall, I reckon it's ok.

 

[iMark]

I'm holding out for the moment. Apparently Audio Hijack Pro and Airfoil are not fully compatible with Lion yet. I also have a few old pieces of software that require Rosetta (no longer available in Lion). So if I were to upgrade, I would turn my Mac into a dual boot machine: Lion and Snow Leopard. That will require a bit of planning though because Lion overwrites the old system.

For the moment I'm perfectly happy with Snow Leopard on my older MacBook. The hardware doesn't support all the new gestures and I'm not in the market for a new trackpad.

 

[Paul.]

I have been using Lion for a few weeks now, and have been fairly happy with it. Enjoying the new gestures, mail is not the great saviour I was expecting however. Its not bad, its a definite improvement, mail just got bigged up rather a lot. Im still getting used to using gestures instead of hot corners. Im a bit clumsy at the moment, but think it will speed up my work flow in the long run with less accidental hot corner activations. The main reason I upgraded was for the under the hood security upgrades, these were significant and worth the £21 alone. Photoshop CS3 worked fine, which was a surprise.

The built in word define tool is great for a luddite like me Not really noticed full screen much as Aperture was full screen anyway. Thought I would disable launchpad, but I find it has really sped up my App launching. Auto save is taking some getting used to. When I invoice people, I usually open up the last invoice and change date and costs etc so I don't need to re entire tonnes of info. I keep forgetting to duplicate the invoice before editing and over writing. Not a big deal, as versions makes it easy to roll back, but a pain none the less. Once I have adapted I can see Auto Save and Versions being features I cant live without. I can only dream about the day Adobe enable Photoshop to work with Versions, but that wont happen for a long long time from experience…

A few days ago I reinstalled from scratch so I could setup a raid array. Ive noticed drastic speed increases over the upgrade, but as I'm a particularly messy Mac user (and I have a pair of striped 7200rpm drives in my MBP now) your milage may vary. I have succesfully staved off upgraditus for another year, as long as the fabled 15" MacBook Air does not show up

 

[entropy2]

I was in love with Lion but have recently fallen out with it.

it seemed great on my quad core imac. I tested it for a few weeks before I installed on my Laptop but then when I did.

Its cut my Macbook pro Battery down from 7 hours down to 3 hours.

It runs very hot on the laptop and I then checked the iMac and it runs hot on that as well.

My wifes Macbook suffered a simmilar fate.

boot times were under 30 seconds but went up to 1 minute on Lion.

I've since put Snow Leopard back on my Mac Mini & my laptop. My itunes library is pretty big on iMac and I can't be bothered with all the downtime so will just wait for the update on that machine.

I'd advise people to stay away for the time being.

 

[Paul.]

It sounds like you need to reset the power management on your MacBooks, follow these steps...

1. Turn off the computer.
2. Hold down Ctrl+Option+shift
3. While holding down these button, press and hold the power button as well.
4. Hold all buttons for at least ten seconds.
5. power back on the computer.

Its understandable if you want to wait for the 10.7.2 though!

 

[MajorFubar]

Its understandable if you want to wait for the 10.7.2 though!

I'm not sure what .1 got me, though I downloaded it the other day. Tell you what I'm missing thoughcompared to SL, albeit technically irrelevant: coloured scrollbars and coloured Finder icons. Active windows never look like they've got the focus anymore. Apple should have at least made the new greyer-than-grey colour-scheme optional.

 

[Paul.]

I think .1 is a trap, designed to get people over their early adoption fears!

 

[MajorFubar]

lol yeah as in "oh look it's no longer a new virgin bug-ridden OS, being tested for free by sheep: they've made a .1 upgrade".

 

[gowiththeflow]

I believe the latest Sonos update (which has just been installed on my recently new system) includes Lion compatability.

New drivers for my printers are now available and my MS Office for Mac 2011 installation is already updated.

We bought a new MacBook Pro yesterday with Lion installed and everything connected here seems to work OK. I'll probably upgrade our iMac next week.

I've been holding off buying a new NAS until things settle down and I see Synology are now providing Lion support on their products.

 

[The_Lhc]

I believe the latest Sonos update (which has just been installed on my recently new system) includes Lion compatability.

Yes, although you may still need to fiddle with the sharing settings to get it to work. See the Sonos forums for more details (I doubt I'd be permitted to post a link here).

 

[gowiththeflow]

Thanks for the tip.

Hopefully I can get everything set up and working properly.

 

[MajorFubar]

I wonder if new Apple OS's are like new Windows OS's in so far as they always seem to run better on machines which have been natively supplied with the OS from new, as opposed to being installed as upgrades? For example I was one of the early adopters of Windows Millennium Edition (aka Windows ME), it being the native OS on a new PC I bought in late 2000. It worked fine for me: totally stable (well...mostly) and no issues with it at all (well...not many), whereas people upgrading their existing PCs from Windows 98SE seemed to report nothing but problems, even when their PC was considerably more powerful than mine.

Having said that, I have no issues with Lion on my Mini, and I installed it as an upgrade from SL.