anyone help me LIVE with sonos/DAC connection
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ive got a dacmagic connected to my amp
and got the sonos BU150 bundle, which has a 120 and a 90
we presume the 90 attaches to the router, but the 120. seems to have speaker plugs, and amp in it etc
should I, can I, attach to the DAC and if so how.
and got the sonos BU150 bundle, which has a 120 and a 90
we presume the 90 attaches to the router, but the 120. seems to have speaker plugs, and amp in it etc
should I, can I, attach to the DAC and if so how.
Can I ask a potentially insulting question? It's not meant to be insulting but it might be.
Do you actually know what the ZP90 and ZP120 are for? ie do you know how Sonos is supposed to work?
The ZP90 and ZP120 constitute two different zones, in other words they go in different rooms and will play different music (if you want them to). The ZP90 requires an external amp (or active speakers) the ZP120 doesn't, it has an onboard amp and will happily drive speakers with no further equipment.
In your case you can connect either of the ZPs to the router (in fact you have to, one of them MUST be wired to the router), the ZP90 should be connected to your DAC, either by optical or coaxial digital connection, your choice.
The ZP120 can go anywhere else in your house, provided it can communicate wirelessly with the ZP90, then you simply plug some speakers into the ZP120 and bingo, extra zone.
Do you actually know what the ZP90 and ZP120 are for? ie do you know how Sonos is supposed to work?
The ZP90 and ZP120 constitute two different zones, in other words they go in different rooms and will play different music (if you want them to). The ZP90 requires an external amp (or active speakers) the ZP120 doesn't, it has an onboard amp and will happily drive speakers with no further equipment.
In your case you can connect either of the ZPs to the router (in fact you have to, one of them MUST be wired to the router), the ZP90 should be connected to your DAC, either by optical or coaxial digital connection, your choice.
The ZP120 can go anywhere else in your house, provided it can communicate wirelessly with the ZP90, then you simply plug some speakers into the ZP120 and bingo, extra zone.
Hi 'the'
not offended. no expert here. learning curve steep. hadnt heard of it before last week.
BUT. blooming Richer, has sold me. after teeling THEM EXACTLY waht i needed. EXACTLY the wrong thing. im single room
they have sold me an amp, and a DAC. and then a bunde that needs neither. and wont drive my speakers but wont link to my
dac or amp. I was 90% sure i was going to take it all back anyway. ive now rung them and told them why.
i want to try the adm avi and the CORRECT sonos. but bit dissapointed 15 mins on phone no answer sonos support.
we cant load music library nfrom folders in my pc on windows xp.
not offended. no expert here. learning curve steep. hadnt heard of it before last week.
BUT. blooming Richer, has sold me. after teeling THEM EXACTLY waht i needed. EXACTLY the wrong thing. im single room
they have sold me an amp, and a DAC. and then a bunde that needs neither. and wont drive my speakers but wont link to my
dac or amp. I was 90% sure i was going to take it all back anyway. ive now rung them and told them why.
i want to try the adm avi and the CORRECT sonos. but bit dissapointed 15 mins on phone no answer sonos support.
we cant load music library nfrom folders in my pc on windows xp.
Hmmm, I agree that if you've only got one room then the Sonos bundle is a waste of time but you CAN plug the ZP90 into your DAC, as I suggested above, you won't have any use for the ZP120 though.
As for the last part you need to install the Sonos software on your PC, tell it where your library is and then it'll share the library with the correct username and permissions that the ZP90 will use. You don't need the software after that however. I've got a Windows XP PC and it works fine.
However in your situation you'd be better off (financially anyway) with something like Squeezebox, although that does require server software to be running on your PC all the time and is more difficult to get working with a NAS, Sonos will work with pretty much any NAS with no issues.
You don't have any other rooms that you'd like to listen to music in then?
As for the last part you need to install the Sonos software on your PC, tell it where your library is and then it'll share the library with the correct username and permissions that the ZP90 will use. You don't need the software after that however. I've got a Windows XP PC and it works fine.
However in your situation you'd be better off (financially anyway) with something like Squeezebox, although that does require server software to be running on your PC all the time and is more difficult to get working with a NAS, Sonos will work with pretty much any NAS with no issues.
You don't have any other rooms that you'd like to listen to music in then?
method man: i want to try the adm avi and the CORRECT sonos.
The ZP90 will work fine with the AVI's
but bit dissapointed 15 mins on phone no answer sonos support.
That's unusual as well, everyone I know who's used Sonos support has raved about how good it is. I believe they're based in the US though, so it might be a time difference issue.
The ZP90 will work fine with the AVI's
but bit dissapointed 15 mins on phone no answer sonos support.
That's unusual as well, everyone I know who's used Sonos support has raved about how good it is. I believe they're based in the US though, so it might be a time difference issue.
sorry for the delay 'the' your help is much appreciated. we have sorted the music folder it was AVG.
can i just check that the 120 can send the signal from the routr to the 90 then, if i wanted? if not. how can one get the music to the 90? in any event. ive played the 120 to the KEFS and aty least had a play with zonos. but obviously not heard it at its best. bit with mp3s and the 120 DACing and driving my KEFS
i could get a understanding. so its all going back to richer and i will get the CORRECT sonos for y needs with the avi speakers.
can i just check that the 120 can send the signal from the routr to the 90 then, if i wanted? if not. how can one get the music to the 90? in any event. ive played the 120 to the KEFS and aty least had a play with zonos. but obviously not heard it at its best. bit with mp3s and the 120 DACing and driving my KEFS
i could get a understanding. so its all going back to richer and i will get the CORRECT sonos for y needs with the avi speakers.
method man:sorry for the delay 'the' your help is much appreciated.
No worries "met", I was driving home from work anyway.
we have sorted the music folder it was AVG.
Cool, it's usually something like that.
can i just check that the 120 can send the signal from the routr to the 90 then, if i wanted? if not. how can one get the music to the 90?
Yes, that's the whole point of the system. The Zoneplayers set up their own wireless network and pass all the music through that from one zone to the next. You can have up to 32 Zoneplayers. The Controller also communicates wirelessly.
in any event. ive played the 120 to the KEFS and aty least had a play with zonos. but obviously not heard it at its best. bit with mp3s and the 120 DACing and driving my KEFS
Is your router in the same room as the Amp and DAC? If so, plug the ZP90 into the router, then its digital out into the DAC and off you go. I'm not sure why you don't think you can plug the ZP90 into your DAC? You can then put the ZP120 in another room with a separate set of speakers should you want to.
i could get a understanding. so its all going back to richer and i will get the CORRECT sonos for my needs with the avi speakers.
Ok, I'll try again, the ZP90 IS the correct Sonos for the AVI speakers, or any active speaker come to that. In fact apart from the ZP90, the ZP120, the controller and the Zonebridge there is no other Sonos component.
It's very simple, if you have no other amplification, use a ZP120; if you have amplification use the ZP90.
No worries "met", I was driving home from work anyway.
we have sorted the music folder it was AVG.
Cool, it's usually something like that.
can i just check that the 120 can send the signal from the routr to the 90 then, if i wanted? if not. how can one get the music to the 90?
Yes, that's the whole point of the system. The Zoneplayers set up their own wireless network and pass all the music through that from one zone to the next. You can have up to 32 Zoneplayers. The Controller also communicates wirelessly.
in any event. ive played the 120 to the KEFS and aty least had a play with zonos. but obviously not heard it at its best. bit with mp3s and the 120 DACing and driving my KEFS
Is your router in the same room as the Amp and DAC? If so, plug the ZP90 into the router, then its digital out into the DAC and off you go. I'm not sure why you don't think you can plug the ZP90 into your DAC? You can then put the ZP120 in another room with a separate set of speakers should you want to.
i could get a understanding. so its all going back to richer and i will get the CORRECT sonos for my needs with the avi speakers.
Ok, I'll try again, the ZP90 IS the correct Sonos for the AVI speakers, or any active speaker come to that. In fact apart from the ZP90, the ZP120, the controller and the Zonebridge there is no other Sonos component.
It's very simple, if you have no other amplification, use a ZP120; if you have amplification use the ZP90.
thanks for all your help. To some of you guys it must be like a toddler learning to walk. LOL
'the'. I am in the same room. but the speakers are about 15 to 20 foot away from the pc.
when you say plug the ZP 90 into the router. what takes it to the DAC?AMP?speakers? I dont want a cable.
'the'. I am in the same room. but the speakers are about 15 to 20 foot away from the pc.
when you say plug the ZP 90 into the router. what takes it to the DAC?AMP?speakers? I dont want a cable.
if your router and DAC / Amp aren't close to each other it makes it more difficult to set-up. You might need to get a zonebridge to connect to the router this will then wirelessly send the music to the ZP90 which should be connected to you DAC via optical.
If you've got the router close to the DAC/Amp then you can connect the ZP90 ethernet port to the router and the ZP90 optical out to your DAC.
By all means ask more questions but also check out the SONOS forum at forums.sonos.com
If you've got the router close to the DAC/Amp then you can connect the ZP90 ethernet port to the router and the ZP90 optical out to your DAC.
By all means ask more questions but also check out the SONOS forum at forums.sonos.com
method man: I am in the same room. but the speakers are about 15 to 20 foot away from the pc.
Doesn't matter where the PC is, where is the router?
when you say plug the ZP 90 into the router. what takes it to the DAC?AMP?speakers? I dont want a cable.
Errr, what normally takes the signal from a source to a DAC or Amp? A cable. You can't do it any other way, would you ask that question if it was a CD player you wanted to connect to the DAC? Before you ask there is NOTHING that can connect to a DAC without a cable...
Lets go from the beginning, answer the following questions:
Your music is on your PC yes?
Your PC is wired to your router, yes?
So, from there you need a cable going from the router to one of the Zoneplayers, it doesn't matter which one, lets say, just to avoid running a cable across the room, you plug the ZP120 into the Router, set that up as a zone, then plug the ZP90 into the DAC (with a cable, this is unavoidable but you can put the 90 next to the DAC so there's no cable running across the room), set that up as your zone and off you go, the ZP120 will pull the music off your PC and send it wirelessly to the ZP90, the ZP90 will output the digital stream to the DAC (by the cable...), the DAC converts it to music, sends it to the amp and you hear it out of the speakers.
Job's a good'un, but this is rather an expensive one room solution, you could set the ZP120 to just be a bridge, so it doesn't appear in your zone list but you might as well buy a Zonebridge to do that instead, they're 70 quid I think. Either way the ZP150 bundle isn't really what you want, all you want is the ZP90, the Controller and possibly the Zonebridge, but buying those separately isn't going to save you much over the bundle anyway.
What you could do is plug the ZP90 straight into your router, connect it to the DAC with a digital cable and then sell the ZP120, you should be able to get a decent price for it, it's unused after all. I'd suggest getting a long network cable rather than a long digital cable, network cables are cheap (assuming you don't buy them from PC World).
Doesn't matter where the PC is, where is the router?
when you say plug the ZP 90 into the router. what takes it to the DAC?AMP?speakers? I dont want a cable.
Errr, what normally takes the signal from a source to a DAC or Amp? A cable. You can't do it any other way, would you ask that question if it was a CD player you wanted to connect to the DAC? Before you ask there is NOTHING that can connect to a DAC without a cable...
Lets go from the beginning, answer the following questions:
Your music is on your PC yes?
Your PC is wired to your router, yes?
So, from there you need a cable going from the router to one of the Zoneplayers, it doesn't matter which one, lets say, just to avoid running a cable across the room, you plug the ZP120 into the Router, set that up as a zone, then plug the ZP90 into the DAC (with a cable, this is unavoidable but you can put the 90 next to the DAC so there's no cable running across the room), set that up as your zone and off you go, the ZP120 will pull the music off your PC and send it wirelessly to the ZP90, the ZP90 will output the digital stream to the DAC (by the cable...), the DAC converts it to music, sends it to the amp and you hear it out of the speakers.
Job's a good'un, but this is rather an expensive one room solution, you could set the ZP120 to just be a bridge, so it doesn't appear in your zone list but you might as well buy a Zonebridge to do that instead, they're 70 quid I think. Either way the ZP150 bundle isn't really what you want, all you want is the ZP90, the Controller and possibly the Zonebridge, but buying those separately isn't going to save you much over the bundle anyway.
What you could do is plug the ZP90 straight into your router, connect it to the DAC with a digital cable and then sell the ZP120, you should be able to get a decent price for it, it's unused after all. I'd suggest getting a long network cable rather than a long digital cable, network cables are cheap (assuming you don't buy them from PC World).
method man:
thanks for all your help. To some of you guys it must be like a toddler learning to walk. LOL
'the'. I am in the same room. but the speakers are about 15 to 20 foot away from the pc.
when you say plug the ZP 90 into the router. what takes it to the DAC?AMP?speakers? I dont want a cable.
I appreciate that it can be difficult to grasp how systems like Sonos work but it looks like the_lhc is doing a good job teaching you to "walk". However, you've now just revealed that although your PC and router are in the same room, it is quite far away from where you want to set up your speakers. Am I right so far?
If so, the simplest option available to you will probably be to keep the ZP90, take back the ZP120 and get a Zonebridge instead (it's about £200 cheaper!) - plug the zonebridge into your router and this will send the music wirelessly to your ZP90 which is plugged into your DAC and in turn, your amp.
Without wanting to confuse matters further or muddy the waters, one question I have for you - is the music on your PC or a Network hard disk? The reason I ask is that if the music is on your PC and you have this switched on whenever you play music, you have some other, cheaper options available to you rather than Sonos, especially if you use iTunes or are willing to use it. You can get a very small box made by Apple called an Airport Express which will stream the music from iTunes on your PC and you can plug the optical output into your DAC. It's about the cheapest option available to you and usually pretty simple to set up. If you want a remote control, all you need is to get an iPod touch which can be had for about £165 and doubles as a portable music player.
thanks for all your help. To some of you guys it must be like a toddler learning to walk. LOL
'the'. I am in the same room. but the speakers are about 15 to 20 foot away from the pc.
when you say plug the ZP 90 into the router. what takes it to the DAC?AMP?speakers? I dont want a cable.
I appreciate that it can be difficult to grasp how systems like Sonos work but it looks like the_lhc is doing a good job teaching you to "walk". However, you've now just revealed that although your PC and router are in the same room, it is quite far away from where you want to set up your speakers. Am I right so far?
If so, the simplest option available to you will probably be to keep the ZP90, take back the ZP120 and get a Zonebridge instead (it's about £200 cheaper!) - plug the zonebridge into your router and this will send the music wirelessly to your ZP90 which is plugged into your DAC and in turn, your amp.
Without wanting to confuse matters further or muddy the waters, one question I have for you - is the music on your PC or a Network hard disk? The reason I ask is that if the music is on your PC and you have this switched on whenever you play music, you have some other, cheaper options available to you rather than Sonos, especially if you use iTunes or are willing to use it. You can get a very small box made by Apple called an Airport Express which will stream the music from iTunes on your PC and you can plug the optical output into your DAC. It's about the cheapest option available to you and usually pretty simple to set up. If you want a remote control, all you need is to get an iPod touch which can be had for about £165 and doubles as a portable music player.
LOL> I suppose a better phrased question would have been. can the one 120 be used as a 90 and visa versa. yes. your right. the pc is a long way from the amp/dac/speakers etc. I now have a better understanding of how sonos works than I should have.
. Much in part to this forum. My defense is i trusted the retailer. we got it working. witht he 90 sending to the 120 and the 120 powering the kEFs. hardly ideal but i tmeant we got to play with the sonos.
To be fair, the retailer sold you everything you needed to get going (as evidenced by the fact you are now listening to music!) but they didn't send you home with the most efficient or economical setup - this could possibly have been down to a misunderstanding of your requirements but either way, it's worth having a chat with them about 'reconfiguring' your setup so that you only have what you need.
If they help you out with this in a reasonable manner to your satisfaction, then you have found a good retailer worth maintaining a relationship with for future purchases.
If they help you out with this in a reasonable manner to your satisfaction, then you have found a good retailer worth maintaining a relationship with for future purchases.
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a week earlier. I then HAD to follow
up. After a few questions, and a follow up call for some personal preference
info from them, and a promise to get
back to me with some recommendations. (So my email meant they were not being
put on the spot which I thought people would appreciate). They never followed
up. My email was similar to the one I posted for the helpful forum members a
week or so back. I then went in there and stated it clearly once more. I'm
afraid it was pure ignorance of the product from both myself and the salesman
that got me the wrong system
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Not so much 'Goza'. The retailer had, had, an email from me
a week earlier. I then HAD to follow
up. After a few questions, and a follow up call for some personal preference
info from them, and a promise to get
back to me with some recommendations. (So my email meant they were not being
put on the spot which I thought people would appreciate). They never followed
up. My email was similar to the one I posted for the helpful forum members a
week or so back. I then went in there and stated it clearly once more. I'm
afraid it was pure ignorance of the product from both myself and the salesman
that got me the wrong system
Gozaradio:method man: thanks for all your help. To some of you guys it must be like a toddler learning to walk. when you say plug the ZP 90 into the router. what takes it to the DAC?AMP?speakers? I dont want a cable.
I appreciate that it can be difficult to grasp how systems like Sonos work but it looks like the_lhc is doing a good job teaching you to "walk".
One tries...
However, you've now just revealed that although your PC and router are in the same room, it is quite far away from where you want to set up your speakers. Am I right so far?
If so, the simplest option available to you will probably be to keep the ZP90, take back the ZP120 and get a Zonebridge instead (it's about £200 cheaper!)
Trouble is he bought the BU150 bundle, so I don't think he has the option of just taking the 120 back, he'll have to take the whole lot back and buy the bridge, the 90 and the controller separately, Sonos are doing single zone packages now (www.sonos.com change the location to UK at the top), so a ZP90 and controller are £450 now, then add the Zonebridge for £70.
Without wanting to confuse matters further or muddy the waters, one question I have for you - is the music on your PC or a Network hard disk? The reason I ask is that if the music is on your PC and you have this switched on whenever you play music, you have some other, cheaper options available to you rather than Sonos, especially if you use iTunes or are willing to use it. You can get a very small box made by Apple called an Airport Express which will stream the music from iTunes on your PC and you can plug the optical output into your DAC. It's about the cheapest option available to you and usually pretty simple to set up. If you want a remote control, all you need is to get an iPod touch which can be had for about £165 and doubles as a portable music player.
Even a squeezebox would be a significant saving over the Sonos in this instance and plugged into the DAC won't sound much different.
I appreciate that it can be difficult to grasp how systems like Sonos work but it looks like the_lhc is doing a good job teaching you to "walk".
One tries...
However, you've now just revealed that although your PC and router are in the same room, it is quite far away from where you want to set up your speakers. Am I right so far?
If so, the simplest option available to you will probably be to keep the ZP90, take back the ZP120 and get a Zonebridge instead (it's about £200 cheaper!)
Trouble is he bought the BU150 bundle, so I don't think he has the option of just taking the 120 back, he'll have to take the whole lot back and buy the bridge, the 90 and the controller separately, Sonos are doing single zone packages now (www.sonos.com change the location to UK at the top), so a ZP90 and controller are £450 now, then add the Zonebridge for £70.
Without wanting to confuse matters further or muddy the waters, one question I have for you - is the music on your PC or a Network hard disk? The reason I ask is that if the music is on your PC and you have this switched on whenever you play music, you have some other, cheaper options available to you rather than Sonos, especially if you use iTunes or are willing to use it. You can get a very small box made by Apple called an Airport Express which will stream the music from iTunes on your PC and you can plug the optical output into your DAC. It's about the cheapest option available to you and usually pretty simple to set up. If you want a remote control, all you need is to get an iPod touch which can be had for about £165 and doubles as a portable music player.
Even a squeezebox would be a significant saving over the Sonos in this instance and plugged into the DAC won't sound much different.
method man: I suppose a better phrased question would have been. can the one 120 be used as a 90 and visa versa.
No, the 120 can't act as a 90 because it has no digital or analogue outputs (the earlier ZP100 DID have them, but they were removed on the 120 because Sonos believed very few people were using them), all you can plug into is speakers. The 90 can't act as a 120 because it has no amplifier, so must go to some kind of amplifier (which you've got).
My defense is i trusted the retailer. we got it working. witht he 90 sending to the 120 and the 120 powering the kEFs. hardly ideal but i tmeant we got to play with the sonos.
Well that is how you'd use the 120, but in your case with a DAC and amp you'd do it the other way around, as I've said.
Incidentally where did the KEFs come from? Did you have them already? If so, what were they plugged into before?
No, the 120 can't act as a 90 because it has no digital or analogue outputs (the earlier ZP100 DID have them, but they were removed on the 120 because Sonos believed very few people were using them), all you can plug into is speakers. The 90 can't act as a 120 because it has no amplifier, so must go to some kind of amplifier (which you've got).
My defense is i trusted the retailer. we got it working. witht he 90 sending to the 120 and the 120 powering the kEFs. hardly ideal but i tmeant we got to play with the sonos.
Well that is how you'd use the 120, but in your case with a DAC and amp you'd do it the other way around, as I've said.
Incidentally where did the KEFs come from? Did you have them already? If so, what were they plugged into before?
hi. no the KEFS were bought at the same time and running thru a CA amp. basically i thought i was buying what a lot of u guys suggest, but got the wrong sonos stuff. but its not a problem. ive had a chance to listen and play. but obviously not heard it thru an external DAC and Amp.
I love the sonos interface etc. yes i could use the squeezebox, but i like the sonas keypad, and more importantly so will the wife. the sonos, speakers/amp/DAC will all be going back. and i will then order the avi9.1 sonos bundle.from somewhere else. so going back to my initial 'no boxes' system.
it also means, ive auditioned some KEFs, and it immediatly highlighted what i had thought. in that i hate my existing speakers. and now that i love the sonos. so once gain thanks for youir time and help. i will post in due course what the adm avis are like, and what they sound like with the sonos.
I love the sonos interface etc. yes i could use the squeezebox, but i like the sonas keypad, and more importantly so will the wife. the sonos, speakers/amp/DAC will all be going back. and i will then order the avi9.1 sonos bundle.from somewhere else. so going back to my initial 'no boxes' system.
it also means, ive auditioned some KEFs, and it immediatly highlighted what i had thought. in that i hate my existing speakers. and now that i love the sonos. so once gain thanks for youir time and help. i will post in due course what the adm avis are like, and what they sound like with the sonos.
method man: hi. no the KEFS were bought at the same time and running thru a CA amp. basically i thought i was buying what a lot of u guys suggest, but got the wrong sonos stuff.
GAAAH!!!! You didn't get the *wrong* Sonos stuff! You just got more than you needed! You just don't need the ZP120, that's it, you need everything else.
I love the sonos interface etc. yes i could use the squeezebox, but i like the sonas keypad, and more importantly so will the wife. the sonos, speakers/amp/DAC will all be going back. and i will then order the avi9.1 sonos bundle.from somewhere else.
What bundle is that then? You won't get anything different as far as the Sonos is concerned, but for use with the AVI 9.1 and your setup I can tell you exactly what you'll need:
1 x ZP90,
1 x CR100 controller,
1x Zonebridge,
1x optical digital cable.
That'll give you everything you need to connect from your PC to the AVI's. As I said before you can get the ZP90 and controller for £449 direct from Sonos and the Zonebridge for £69. Don't know where you'll get the AVI's from but you could ask them to throw in the optical cable for nothing if you haven't got one already.
so going back to my initial 'no boxes' system.
And I expect that'll sound really good, which is nice...
it also means, ive auditioned some KEFs, and it immediatly highlighted what i had thought. in that i hate my existing speakers.
What speakers were they and what KEFs did you get?
and now that i love the sonos. so once gain thanks for youir time and help. i will post in due course what the adm avis are like, and what they sound like with the sonos.
Cool, I'd be interested to know where you get it all from as well.
GAAAH!!!! You didn't get the *wrong* Sonos stuff! You just got more than you needed! You just don't need the ZP120, that's it, you need everything else.
I love the sonos interface etc. yes i could use the squeezebox, but i like the sonas keypad, and more importantly so will the wife. the sonos, speakers/amp/DAC will all be going back. and i will then order the avi9.1 sonos bundle.from somewhere else.
What bundle is that then? You won't get anything different as far as the Sonos is concerned, but for use with the AVI 9.1 and your setup I can tell you exactly what you'll need:
1 x ZP90,
1 x CR100 controller,
1x Zonebridge,
1x optical digital cable.
That'll give you everything you need to connect from your PC to the AVI's. As I said before you can get the ZP90 and controller for £449 direct from Sonos and the Zonebridge for £69. Don't know where you'll get the AVI's from but you could ask them to throw in the optical cable for nothing if you haven't got one already.
so going back to my initial 'no boxes' system.
And I expect that'll sound really good, which is nice...
it also means, ive auditioned some KEFs, and it immediatly highlighted what i had thought. in that i hate my existing speakers.
What speakers were they and what KEFs did you get?
and now that i love the sonos. so once gain thanks for youir time and help. i will post in due course what the adm avis are like, and what they sound like with the sonos.
Cool, I'd be interested to know where you get it all from as well.
my old speakers were wharfdale diamond 8.3 floors. im trying the KEFiq5se. playing cds thru my own arcam 7se spinner and the new arcam azur 650a. cds sound much much better obviously, but the big difference was the speakers. even thru my own old rotel amp. i switched from one to the other and the KEFs made the wharfedales seem very muddy when i switched back after a minute. the amp is an improvment
but not as much. like I say . no wow factor. and as I like the sonos, and would like to rip my cds lossless and do away with any boxes up that end of the room. the Avi makes sense. I also have a huge amount of mp3s, hence the interest in sonos not just as a wireless but as a nice easy to use interface.
I did get waht you were saying that I did have everything I needed to try the DAC and amp with the sonos. But I was short the necessary lead. digital or optical. But at this point, i think ive heard enough to make a decision. it also makes it easier to take it all back too. i wont feel so bad.
but not as much. like I say . no wow factor. and as I like the sonos, and would like to rip my cds lossless and do away with any boxes up that end of the room. the Avi makes sense. I also have a huge amount of mp3s, hence the interest in sonos not just as a wireless but as a nice easy to use interface.
I did get waht you were saying that I did have everything I needed to try the DAC and amp with the sonos. But I was short the necessary lead. digital or optical. But at this point, i think ive heard enough to make a decision. it also makes it easier to take it all back too. i wont feel so bad.
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Is there any way you can get a long network cable to go between your router and the Z90 option. Would save on the bridge and get a better wired connection. Also consider replacing the sonos control with the Ipod Touch.
Cost: £240 for Z90 and £160 for Ipod touch, plus optical lead. Approx £400 all in, with the option of using the Ipod touch seperately.
Works great for me
Cost: £240 for Z90 and £160 for Ipod touch, plus optical lead. Approx £400 all in, with the option of using the Ipod touch seperately.
Works great for me
hi pete. im afraid not. its way too far from router to hi-fi. i quite like the chunky sonos remote control.
wife is home in a few hours. her opinion will be the deciding factor.
wife is home in a few hours. her opinion will be the deciding factor.
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