Andrewjvt said:
You say that - I've actually been reading up on some mid priced interconnects.
I have some Chord Crimson and QED Performance 2 - different flavours - seriously considering some Atlas Intagra for some reason....lol
You say that - I've actually been reading up on some mid priced interconnects.
I have some Chord Crimson and QED Performance 2 - different flavours - seriously considering some Atlas Intagra for some reason....lol
Native_bon
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Am likely to trust someone who his/her views changes, cause it tells me they willing to learn even if the truth is bitter.
The_Lhc
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Infiniteloop
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Infiniteloop
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Don't see why not. Seems a fairly open and shut case to me. Keep up the repayments on terms that I expect were reasonably generous considering he is family, or hand it back. It's called real life. He can sit there and feel aggrieved and victimised if he wants, but while I don't know his circumstances, generally this will be because previous blows have been a bit too cushioned and he's yet to face a few home truths; it's just unfortunate that you've been the one to deliver them. If he feels this is harsh tell him to try defaulting on a few mortgage payments and see how long he gets to keep a house.Thompsonuxb said:
Here we go again. Just when you think you have explained 'burn in' to death, along comes another 'it got better over time thread' with absolutely no basis except 'it sounded different to me'.
So lets start with 'burn in'. This is where electronic components (or more often complete systems) are run at elevated temperature to encourage early failures. Electronics suffer from infant mortality - either it breaks early on in its life, or it lasts a long time. 'Burn in' weeds out the components that were going to fail early. Important where warranty claims are an issue, in mission critical systems, and where replacement would be difficult. Absolutely nothing to do with 'golden eared' hifi enthusiasts.
About the only components in hifi that change over time are electrolytic caps, and not for the better. They have an electrolytic gloop inside that can leak or corrode as time passes. A warning sign is the cap case starts to bulge. I have worked on old valve equipment where the old electrolytics have exploded.
Mechanical systems can and do 'run in', so although I am sceptical about the magnitude, I can at least see a system where a speaker could change through usage. Amps and cables? no way. They are not Ford Escort engines.
The least reliable and most inconsistent part of the chain is between the ears of the listener. If anything is burning in and changing with time, it is the listener himself.
So lets start with 'burn in'. This is where electronic components (or more often complete systems) are run at elevated temperature to encourage early failures. Electronics suffer from infant mortality - either it breaks early on in its life, or it lasts a long time. 'Burn in' weeds out the components that were going to fail early. Important where warranty claims are an issue, in mission critical systems, and where replacement would be difficult. Absolutely nothing to do with 'golden eared' hifi enthusiasts.
About the only components in hifi that change over time are electrolytic caps, and not for the better. They have an electrolytic gloop inside that can leak or corrode as time passes. A warning sign is the cap case starts to bulge. I have worked on old valve equipment where the old electrolytics have exploded.
Mechanical systems can and do 'run in', so although I am sceptical about the magnitude, I can at least see a system where a speaker could change through usage. Amps and cables? no way. They are not Ford Escort engines.
The least reliable and most inconsistent part of the chain is between the ears of the listener. If anything is burning in and changing with time, it is the listener himself.
Did you give the Rotel the old smell test to detect what sort of 'burn in' your nephew used that made it sound so good?
steve_1979
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steve_1979 said:
I hope jars and cucumbers are involved when you say it. Otherwise I'm afraid it's serious.
andyjm said:
Andy, funnily enough I'm not arguing a point - on paper you'd win, I get that.
Truth is though in real world application all that 'fact' means nowt when you hear it for yourself.
Regardless if you trust your ears or not. As I said it was a sublime experience.
I ain't selling anything just sharing an experience....... :-D
Vladimir said:
Funny you say that. The 'new amp smell' no longer fills the room when it plays.
Tell me that does not exists either.......
steve_1979 said:
My powers to influence.....they grow stronger.
Who needs the force.....?
Now.....send me your money.... *crazy*
Thompsonuxb said:
One of the most beautiful fragrances in life. New purchased electronics and the paper smell of the latest edition of your favorite magazine.
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