3D Blu-ray player around £500

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Looking to buy 3D Blu-ray player around £500 asap but looked at many reviews that my head is bursting... looked at Denon 2012 / Cambridge 651BD / OPPO BDP-93 + others. I have a Sony STR-DE475 amp which i will be replacing in near future with Onkyo or Yamaha 7.1 System spending around £500 also, any advice would be welcome
Looking to buy 3D Blu-ray player around £500 asap but looked at many reviews that my head is bursting... looked at Denon 2012 / Cambridge 651BD / OPPO BDP-93 + others. I have a Sony STR-DE475 amp which i will be replacing in near future with Onkyo or Yamaha 7.1 System spending around £500 also, any advice would be welcome

 

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Save your cash and get the Panasonic 310

 

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Save your cash and get the Panasonic 310

Agreed. No point in spending 50% of your budget in a blu ray player. Rest of your system won't be good enough to appreciate its benefits. Better to spend extra cash on a superior AV receiver which is the heart of any AV system.

 

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Onkyo BD-SP809 will go perfect 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[micks_address]

agreed with the guys, if you had a higher spec receiver and speakers i'd be suggesting the Oppo BD 93 but then i suppose it depends on what your upgrade path is like.. if you do intend upgrading your receiver and speakers in the short term then the BD 93 is a great choice as it will allow you to go secondhand on the receiver and buy a 1.3 hdmi spec unit like a denon 3310 etc for a lot less money than the newer kit.. but then the Panasonic 310 also allows this and if all you are interested in is picture/soudn quality its a great choice.. if you want real flexibility like being able to play practically any video format from external hard disk then the Oppo is the way to go.. it'll play iso images of blu-ray discs and dvds etc.. its very simillar to the cambridge audio players..

it really depends on what you are going to do in the future.. if you dont plan to upgrade the rest of your kit then the Oppo is probably overkill

 

[manicm]

Let me give you a hint - Onkyo. Or perhaps the new Pioneers or the forthcoming Panasonics. I think the Oppo 93 and the CA 651BD are now beat for picture quality.

 

[micks_address]

wow a bold statement have you compared the Oppo to the Onkyo? I think most people would agree that there's not much in it when it comes to picture quality from the high end players.. some offer different quality sound but I think what sets some players appart is their flexibility.. but its really down to the requirements you have..

Let me give you a hint - Onkyo. Or perhaps the new Pioneers or the forthcoming Panasonics. I think the Oppo 93 and the CA 651BD are now beat for picture quality.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks all for your help :cheers: . . . think i have made up my mind on buying Onkyo TXNR 809 along with Onyko SP809 Blu-Ray player....

 

[manicm]

micks-address - well no, but I do have the CA 751BD which picture wise should be identical to the Oppo 95. And the Onkyo - well I don't want to spoil the fun

The Onkyo will obviously be ruled out if you have a SACD/DVD-A itch.

 

[micks_address]

im pretty sure the picture quality on the Oppo 93 and Oppo 95 will be pretty much the same, the main improvements on the 95 are in the analog outputs audio..

 

[Anonymous]

I am new to this hi-fi/ home gear to some degree so any help i will listen to... today i had a visit to my local sevenoaks dealer with regards to duy/looking at poss purchase and when i mentioned the Onkyo TXNR 809 his view was that the sound is not as good as Denon AVR-3312 or AVR-2312 so this put me in doubt on wot to buy. As i stated i have looked at reviews on avr,s up to £700 and 3D blu-ray player around £500, he did not know anything about the oppo-93 which seems to have good reviews but advised me to buy Denon 2012 player... I AM BACK TO START + UNSURE - - as i do not have a great knowledge yet...

Any ideas will help Thanks

 

[def lugs]

Let me give you a hint - Onkyo. Or perhaps the new Pioneers or the forthcoming Panasonics. I think the Oppo 93 and the CA 651BD are now beat for picture quality.

Hi Mani, can you expand on why you would recommend the two unreleased, unproven units over the oppo and cambridge?

Arty, did the dealer let you demo any of the players that they had to let you compare? It is always best to go off your own opinion if possible.

 

[Anonymous]

Hi thanks for reply, they did not have any units i like ( this was my second visit) not in stock - some dealer so he was not looking to give a demo just wanted to get back to his P.C to carry on some downloads... I like the oppo- 93 but not sure on AVR ( Onkyo / Denon.... I live 40 mins drive from glasgow and scotland does not have much in the way of dealers... :wall:

arty

 

[manicm]

Let me give you a hint - Onkyo. Or perhaps the new Pioneers or the forthcoming Panasonics. I think the Oppo 93 and the CA 651BD are now beat for picture quality.

Hi Mani, can you expand on why you would recommend the two unreleased, unproven units over the oppo and cambridge?

Arty, did the dealer let you demo any of the players that they had to let you compare? It is always best to go off your own opinion if possible.

Well what's proven about the CA-651BD, or even the CA-751BD? I can tell you now I can pick holes in the 751 - its slightly dim picture for example.

Ok, and all apologies WHF, read their review of the Onkyo blu-ray player.

 

[bigboss]

today i had a visit to my local sevenoaks dealer with regards to duy/looking at poss purchase and when i mentioned the Onkyo TXNR 809 his view was that the sound is not as good as Denon AVR-3312 or AVR-2312

I'm sorry but I wouldn't take the dealer's word without demoing & comparing the receivers myself. We all have our preference with sound, & the dealer's might be different to yours.

Ask your dealer to arrange a demo for you, & compare them yourself.

FWIW, I had a chat with my local Sevenoaks dealer before Christmas & he thought the Denon receivers have gone down in quality over the past couple of years, & Onkyo & Pioneer are getting better. He wasn't impressed with the 2312 & the 3312, and was not surprised at the recent price drop.

Bottomline is; demo yourself & decide what's best for you.

 

[Anonymous]

hey bigboss,

just off a topic a little bit here, I`ve just seen another thread in another forum where this guy said he had his BDP-140 DVD multiregioned in Sevenoaks by a dealer with some REMOTE, so if you can get to your Sevenoaks dealer, would you please ask him what`s the procedure?

I guess it`ll be the same for BDP-440/LX55

THX

 

[nads]

hey bigboss,

just off a topic a little bit here, I`ve just seen another thread in another forum where this guy said he had his BDP-140 DVD multiregioned in Sevenoaks by a dealer with some REMOTE, so if you can get to your Sevenoaks dealer, would you please ask him what`s the procedure?

I guess it`ll be the same for BDP-440/LX55

THX

google it you will find massive topics about I on some forums. But it is only for DVD not BD as that is a mechanical change.

 

[Anonymous]

well I`m pretty aware of this topic, I had 2 Pio BDPs before, both DVD MR...

and yes I`m looking for DVD-ONLY mulltiregion capability, no hardware mods for zone free bluray...

you won`t believe it but it`s just impossible to get to any info on how to make it with new Pioneers, I`ve been searching the web for last few months...

the only confirmed solution is to pick a UK retailer (they don`t do it anywhere else in EU) who sells it DVD MR and ask him for details...(which remote, what codes...?)

if you have a chance to contact some I`d be very appreciative to you...

(I`m in Slovakia and I bought my player in Vienna)

 

[Anonymous]

Any news on this?

THX

 

[ukridge]

Hi, after a search, the original comments on here interested me because I have been trying to decide between a Panasonic 310 and the £500 range ones mentioned above - Denon 2012 / Cambridge 651BD / OPPO BDP-93.

In the end I was about to go for the Panasonic 310 since I have no need for SACD or DVD-Audio; I figured this was the main difference for the £300 extra. OK, maybe the analogue sound is better, but in no way the same league as the Cambridge 751 or OPPO 95. I'm thinking along the lines of getting an Onkyo 609 AV Receiver, so HDMI digital out to this may make the sound better anyway?? Given the good but satellites speaker system (plus maybe a couple of shelf cabinet speakers) I am intending on getting for discreet purposes, I also figure that any gain in sound of the £500 players are overkill (I get the impression that I would need better amp/AV rec and better non-satellites speaker system).

So there you have it - didn't see the point in spending £300 extra on the sound and SACD/DVD-A when - as far as I was aware - the picture quality would be about the same (and I do like how thin the Panasonic is).

However... I'm intending to use it on a JVC X30 projector, so screen size will probably be at least 100 inches:

I was speaking to a local Sevenoaks dealer/sales person/advisor recently and he said that for a projector screen - due to them being in much larger screen territory - I should get the Denon 2012 over the Panasonic 310 because the picture quality IS better! I think he was actually meaning Bluray for Bluray too. Is this true or is he talking rubbish?

I can understand that the DVD upscaling will be better, but bear in mind that I will have a better video upscaler in the Onkyo 609 AV rec (irrelevant, but it's a 4K upscaler as well). Or do you think the Onkyo's upscaler will not be up to the job for a projector screen? Will the Denon 2012 upscaler be much better if at all?

So taking all this into account - particularly the Onkyo 609 AV receiver - is it worth the extra £300 for picture only quality on my projector?

 

[bigboss]

If you're getting Onkyo 609, Panasonic 210 is enough for you. The main advantage of the 310 over 210 is the twin HDMI. Otherwise, there's little to differentiate between the 2 players, as noted by WHF as well.

You will need to demo the players before making a purchase. On my 50-inch plasma, I have not found any difference in blu ray picture quality between players at different price brackets. I cannot comment about a 100-inch screen, but there are a few members here who are happy with Panasonic's performance on their projector.

Of course, Denon, CA & Oppo are better DVD upscalers than the Panasonic.

 

[manicm]

ukridge - if SACD and DVD-A are not a priority then you owe it to yourself to consider the Onkyo BD-SP809. Read review here as well.

 

[ukridge]

On my 50-inch plasma, I have not found any difference in blu ray picture quality between players at different price brackets. I cannot comment about a 100-inch screen, but there are a few members here who are happy with Panasonic's performance on their projector.

Of course, Denon, CA & Oppo are better DVD upscalers than the Panasonic.

But are the Denon, CA & Oppo better DVD upscalers than the Onkyo 609?

I forgot to mention that the salesman seemed to think that motion would be a particular point that is better on the Denon over the Panasonic Bluray player (again he may have meant for the projector screen). Have you noticed any difference in motion quality at different price brackets?

 

[bigboss]

On my 50-inch plasma, I have not found any difference in blu ray picture quality between players at different price brackets. I cannot comment about a 100-inch screen, but there are a few members here who are happy with Panasonic's performance on their projector.

Of course, Denon, CA & Oppo are better DVD upscalers than the Panasonic.

But are the Denon, CA & Oppo better DVD upscalers than the Onkyo 609?

I forgot to mention that the salesman seemed to think that motion would be a particular point that is better on the Denon over the Panasonic Bluray player (again he may have meant for the projector screen). Have you noticed any difference in motion quality at different price brackets?

I haven't checked the DVD upscaling quality of Onkyo 609. My Panasonic BD60 upscales DVDs slightly better than Yamaha RX-V1900. Also, I haven't noticed a difference in motion quality at difference price brackets on my 50-inch plasma.

You have the advantage of buying from Sevenoaks, who will be happy to arrange a demo for you. Definitely demo the players in question & decide if it's worth spending extra on a blu ray player. I personally would spend more on an AV receiver than a blu ray player, as AV receivers are the heart of any system. What speakers have you got?

 

[ukridge]

I don't have any speakers at the moment, but I am intending on getting something like and in the price range of the WHARFEDALE DX1 HCP ~£350-400 - it needs to be discreet satellites and no floor-standers.

Also I was intending adding to this 2 good cabinet shelf speakers ~£100, like the Cabridge Audio S20 or the Tannoy Mercury V1. I would like to use these to top up the 5.1 to 7.1 and also for dual-purpose use them as stereo speakers for music.