Windows media player error correction

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hello everyone,

Just a quick one,

I have been ripping my music using windows media player in wma lossless format. I have read alot about using error correction when ripping. I cannot seem to find an option for this in wmp, is it done automatically.

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thanks john, perfect all done. just got to re-rip some albums now, how much of a difference does the error correction make in sound terms if the cds that were ripped had no scratches etc so should have ripped ok.
 

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al7478:Good Lord! I didnt know it had error correction!

Hangs head in shame and embarrassment and skulks off...
Looks like a rerip is in order ;-)
 

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PJPro:al7478:Good Lord! I didnt know it had error correction!

Hangs head in shame and embarrassment and skulks off...
Looks like a rerip is in order ;-)

funny you should say. i need to re-rip anyways due to a crash and no proper backup procedure (one o those things i appreciated the importance of but never got round to...hmmm...). I'l;l probably use EAC tho, or dbpoweramp which, helpfully, can rip to flac and mp3 at the same time, so if i want both i wont have to rip then transcode. just have slight reservations about how itll cope with scratched disks, so im still a little undecided.
 

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sorry to interrupt yet again, OP, but:

FAO Mr John Duncan - do you know where that thread is in which you were advising on DACs and soundcards recently, when i stuck me 2peneth (eh?) in with something about the 2496 card...?
 

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al7478:PJPro:al7478:Good Lord! I didnt know it had error correction!

Hangs head in shame and embarrassment and skulks off...
Looks like a rerip is in order ;-)

funny you should say. i need to re-rip anyways due to a crash and no proper backup procedure (one o those things i appreciated the importance of but never got round to...hmmm...). I'l;l probably use EAC tho, or dbpoweramp which, helpfully, can rip to flac and mp3 at the same time, so if i want both i wont have to rip then transcode. just have slight reservations about how itll cope with scratched disks, so im still a little undecided.
Not sure anything would cope with bad scratches. I've had the odd CD which EAC would simply not rip due to errors it could not correct. Ended up using dbpoweramp for these odd tracks, which it happily ripped, errors and all.
 

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al7478:sorry to interrupt yet again, OP, but:

FAO Mr John Duncan - do you know where that thread is in which you were advising on DACs and soundcards recently, when i stuck me 2peneth (eh?) in with something about the 2496 card...?

Dunno, will have a dig...
 

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PJPro:I've had the odd CD which EAC would simply not rip due to errors it could not correct. Ended up using dbpoweramp for these odd tracks, which it happily ripped, errors and all.

I guess truth really can be stranger than fiction. Weird. Shouldnt happen. EAC has taken ages to rip certain songs for me, and it has done so without audible error (rho the report has told me there may be errors at certain points...so i listened...like i say, heard nowt).

On the other hand, its kinda comforting to know, so thanks for that.
 
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From reading microsoft knowledgebase, it seems like WMP error correction has following benefit - if a cd won't rip in wmp giving a reading error message, then using error correction will enable WMP to try and ignore that error.

Thus I don't beleive turning wmp error correction on will give users a better rip (in the sense of EAC or dbPowerAmp).

Does anyone know different? I would have expected it to mean when an error arises WMP slows down the ripping and re-reads to try and get the audio data.
 
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This may be true I don't know, but I would say it can't hurt to have it on just incase there is a scratch on a cd. does this software you mention give you bit perfect rips?
 
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m1rfy:This may be true I don't know, but I would say it can't hurt to have it on just incase there is a scratch on a cd. does this software you mention give you bit perfect rips?

Put another way, I think (from Microsoft Knowledgebase) that WMP without error correction (OFF) checked will just simply stop ripping a CD when it encounters an error, whereas with error correction ON it will try to continue without alerting the user. MS doesn't describe WMP with error correction, trying to more accurately read the disc, such as by slowing down or retrying etc.

So I've assumed (big assumption) that WMP with EC on, is guessing in software at how to correct the disc error it encountered.

Whereas dbpoweramp and eac I beleive keep trying to reread the disc to get the data off as accurate as possible.
 

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3dHeli:
m1rfy:This may be true I don't know, but I would say it can't hurt to have it on just incase there is a scratch on a cd. does this software you mention give you bit perfect rips?

Put another way, I think (from Microsoft Knowledgebase) that WMP without error correction (OFF) checked will just simply stop ripping a CD when it encounters an error, whereas with error correction ON it will try to continue without alerting the user. MS doesn't describe WMP with error correction, trying to more accurately read the disc, such as by slowing down or retrying etc.

So I've assumed (big assumption) that WMP with EC on, is guessing in software at how to correct the disc error it encountered.

Whereas dbpoweramp and eac I beleive keep trying to reread the disc to get the data off as accurate as possible.

I must admit that I ripped hundreds of albums without the error correction on and then read John's link. I then turned on EC and it took ages to rip an album (without EC on it took 3-4 mins and with it on, 20 mins). I have now decided to rip as I was originally.
 
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Gerrardasnails:3dHeli:

m1rfy:This may be true I don't know, but I would say it can't hurt to have it on just incase there is a scratch on a cd. does this software you mention give you bit perfect rips?

Put another way, I think (from Microsoft Knowledgebase) that WMP without error correction (OFF) checked will just simply stop ripping a CD when it encounters an error, whereas with error correction ON it will try to continue without alerting the user. MS doesn't describe WMP with error correction, trying to more accurately read the disc, such as by slowing down or retrying etc.

So I've assumed (big assumption) that WMP with EC on, is guessing in software at how to correct the disc error it encountered.

Whereas dbpoweramp and eac I beleive keep trying to reread the disc to get the data off as accurate as possible.

I must admit that I ripped hundreds of albums without the error correction on and then read John's link. I then turned on EC and it took ages to rip an album (without EC on it took 3-4 mins and with it on, 20 mins). I have now decided to rip as I was originally.

Then (having it would seem been completely wrong on my last big assumption) WMP with EC on must be doing something extra (as it takes longer), such as rereading the CD or slowing the reading speed, thus it should be more accurate. I am gonna test with a pristine CD and a really scratched up CD to see how they compare on speed at least.

If WMP does do a good effort on accurate rips with bad CD's then it could solve all my ripping problems (read confusion at all the choices), as the confusion and learning curves with EAC, dbPowerAmp, Foobar2k, MediaMonkey, iTunes etc could now be much simplier for me.
 

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3dHeli:Gerrardasnails:3dHeli:

m1rfy:This may be true I don't know, but I would say it can't hurt to have it on just incase there is a scratch on a cd. does this software you mention give you bit perfect rips?

Put another way, I think (from Microsoft Knowledgebase) that WMP without error correction (OFF) checked will just simply stop ripping a CD when it encounters an error, whereas with error correction ON it will try to continue without alerting the user. MS doesn't describe WMP with error correction, trying to more accurately read the disc, such as by slowing down or retrying etc.

So I've assumed (big assumption) that WMP with EC on, is guessing in software at how to correct the disc error it encountered.

Whereas dbpoweramp and eac I beleive keep trying to reread the disc to get the data off as accurate as possible.

I must admit that I ripped hundreds of albums without the error correction on and then read John's link. I then turned on EC and it took ages to rip an album (without EC on it took 3-4 mins and with it on, 20 mins). I have now decided to rip as I was originally.

Then (having it would seem been completely wrong on my last big assumption) WMP with EC on must be doing something extra (as it takes longer), such as rereading the CD or slowing the reading speed, thus it should be more accurate. I am gonna test with a pristine CD and a really scratched up CD to see how they compare on speed at least.

If WMP does do a good effort on accurate rips with bad CD's then it could solve all my ripping problems (read confusion at all the choices), as the confusion and learning curves with EAC, dbPowerAmp, Foobar2k, MediaMonkey, iTunes etc could now be much simplier for me.

Well ya really do learn summat every day!

Keep us informed.
 

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