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I heard them on a Naim Nait 5i and it didn't work for me at all. It sounded too warm and ill-defined in the bass. Not the result I was expecting.
igglebert:I heard them on a Naim Nait 5i and it didn't work for me at all. It sounded too warm and ill-defined in the bass. Not the result I was expecting.
is it because of not breaking in .?...saw from Whathifi Review ..need breaking in for 72 hours ...
is it because of not breaking in .?...saw from Whathifi Review ..need breaking in for 72 hours ...
No idea I'm afraid. It was only a quick demo but we put the nSats back on and continued to enjoy the music.
Heard them with Leema tucana/Antila one of the best combi i heard ever
and the other one is ATC SIA2 150/Spendor A6 or ATC 40's/Esoteric X-05.
Hope that helps.
and the other one is ATC SIA2 150/Spendor A6 or ATC 40's/Esoteric X-05.
Hope that helps.
I used to have the Tucana and Antilla with WB Arcs......superb, even though different speakers similar sonic signature
wickerman68:I used to have the Tucana and Antilla with WB Arcs......superb, even though different speakers similar sonic signature
So Do you still keep this Arcs or sold it ..?
So Do you still keep this Arcs or sold it ..?
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igglebert:I heard them on a Naim Nait 5i and it didn't work for me at all. It sounded too warm and ill-defined in the bass. Not the result I was expecting.This will be because the Square Two's need a little more than the 5i can provide. A minimum would probably be a Nait XS.
My experience of the Square Two's is far from that. The bass is very well defined, there's just not quite enough of it. I've mentioned in another thread that they're a little lean sounding and very detailed, which is fine with well recorded music, but when it comes to more 'normal' music, they don't fair so well. Indie type music or music which is dirtier so to speaker, doesn't sound particularly nice. There are better all rounders like the ATC SCM40's. Proac Response D18's also work well with different styles of music.
My experience of the Square Two's is far from that. The bass is very well defined, there's just not quite enough of it. I've mentioned in another thread that they're a little lean sounding and very detailed, which is fine with well recorded music, but when it comes to more 'normal' music, they don't fair so well. Indie type music or music which is dirtier so to speaker, doesn't sound particularly nice. There are better all rounders like the ATC SCM40's. Proac Response D18's also work well with different styles of music.
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cagiva88:
Anyone share experience of this WB Square two speakers ...? thx
Not heard the Square Two's - a couple of years ago I heard some little standmounter (possibly Full Circle) powered by Bryston electronics, they were superb.
Anyone share experience of this WB Square two speakers ...? thx
Not heard the Square Two's - a couple of years ago I heard some little standmounter (possibly Full Circle) powered by Bryston electronics, they were superb.
Afraid not. But my dad has the 'curves' as main speakers, 'arcs' as rears and the center to match and they all sound amazing (But then he does have unbelievably pricey electronics too)
FrankHarveyHiFi:
igglebert:I heard them on a Naim Nait 5i and it didn't work for me at all. It sounded too warm and ill-defined in the bass. Not the result I was expecting.This will be because the Square Two's need a little more than the 5i can provide. A minimum would probably be a Nait XS.
My experience of the Square Two's is far from that. The bass is very well defined, there's just not quite enough of it. I've mentioned in another thread that they're a little lean sounding and very detailed, which is fine with well recorded music, but when it comes to more 'normal' music, they don't fair so well. Indie type music or music which is dirtier so to speaker, doesn't sound particularly nice. There are better all rounders like the ATC SCM40's. Proac Response D18's also work well with different styles of music.
Can I drive this Square 2 with Moon I-1 ...? which one better compare to Nait Xs
igglebert:I heard them on a Naim Nait 5i and it didn't work for me at all. It sounded too warm and ill-defined in the bass. Not the result I was expecting.This will be because the Square Two's need a little more than the 5i can provide. A minimum would probably be a Nait XS.
My experience of the Square Two's is far from that. The bass is very well defined, there's just not quite enough of it. I've mentioned in another thread that they're a little lean sounding and very detailed, which is fine with well recorded music, but when it comes to more 'normal' music, they don't fair so well. Indie type music or music which is dirtier so to speaker, doesn't sound particularly nice. There are better all rounders like the ATC SCM40's. Proac Response D18's also work well with different styles of music.
Can I drive this Square 2 with Moon I-1 ...? which one better compare to Nait Xs
My experience of the Square Two's is far from that. The bass is very well defined, there's just not quite enough of it. I've mentioned in another thread that they're a little lean sounding and very detailed, which is fine with well recorded music, but when it comes to more 'normal' music, they don't fair so well. Indie type music or music which is dirtier so to speaker, doesn't sound particularly nice. There are better all rounders like the ATC SCM40's. Proac Response D18's also work well with different styles of music.
Hi' David have you listened to Spendor A6,if you have do they have any weakness in the bass area and comments on it's detail ability.
Hi' David have you listened to Spendor A6,if you have do they have any weakness in the bass area and comments on it's detail ability.
Hello
Having worked with Wilson Benesch I have heard the Square Twos many times. They are really superb speakers and you get a lot for your money (they use the same drivers and crossover network as used in the higher-end models). They work exceptionally well in both hi-fi and home cinema contexts. You can also place them very close to a wall since they use a bass radiator rather than being ported. The wood finishes are also exquisite.
As always it is best to demo speakers to see what you think. Contact Wilson Benesch directly and I am sure they will be delighted to point you to a local dealer who can demonstrate a pair for you.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Darren
Having worked with Wilson Benesch I have heard the Square Twos many times. They are really superb speakers and you get a lot for your money (they use the same drivers and crossover network as used in the higher-end models). They work exceptionally well in both hi-fi and home cinema contexts. You can also place them very close to a wall since they use a bass radiator rather than being ported. The wood finishes are also exquisite.
As always it is best to demo speakers to see what you think. Contact Wilson Benesch directly and I am sure they will be delighted to point you to a local dealer who can demonstrate a pair for you.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Darren
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burhan:Hi' David have you listened to Spendor A6,if you have do they have any weakness in the bass area and comments on it's detail ability.The A6's are a little different to the A5's. More efficient, a bit more life and purpose to them, a little more on the top end helps open them up more. Their cabinet and larger bass driver does improve their scale. They may not ahve the evenness in the bass the ATC's have, but they are a ported cabinet. Even though they are ported, they're not affected as heavily as other ported speakers are when pushed closer to a wall. They also don't really need any toeing in.
They will suit certain people, but are also one of the best at this price point along with Proac and ATC.
They will suit certain people, but are also one of the best at this price point along with Proac and ATC.
FrankHarveyHiFi:
burhan:Hi' David have you listened to Spendor A6,if you have do they have any weakness in the bass area and comments on it's detail ability.The A6's are a little different to the A5's. More efficient, a bit more life and purpose to them, a little more on the top end helps open them up more. Their cabinet and larger bass driver does improve their scale. They may not ahve the evenness in the bass the ATC's have, but they are a ported cabinet. Even though they are ported, they're not affected as heavily as other ported speakers are when pushed closer to a wall. They also don't really need any toeing in.
They will suit certain people, but are also one of the best at this price point along with Proac and ATC.
Sorry oneother thing,i already listened to a Pro-ac D15's and did'nt like it with my system which is ATC SIA2 150 AMP,Esoteric X5 CD.Does that mean the D18's will be similar and not worth wasting time.
What can you advise on the other two Wilson square two's and spender A6,i have already compared ACT 40's against Spendor A6 and i liked Spendor's.
Thanks.
burhan:Hi' David have you listened to Spendor A6,if you have do they have any weakness in the bass area and comments on it's detail ability.The A6's are a little different to the A5's. More efficient, a bit more life and purpose to them, a little more on the top end helps open them up more. Their cabinet and larger bass driver does improve their scale. They may not ahve the evenness in the bass the ATC's have, but they are a ported cabinet. Even though they are ported, they're not affected as heavily as other ported speakers are when pushed closer to a wall. They also don't really need any toeing in.
They will suit certain people, but are also one of the best at this price point along with Proac and ATC.
Sorry oneother thing,i already listened to a Pro-ac D15's and did'nt like it with my system which is ATC SIA2 150 AMP,Esoteric X5 CD.Does that mean the D18's will be similar and not worth wasting time.
What can you advise on the other two Wilson square two's and spender A6,i have already compared ACT 40's against Spendor A6 and i liked Spendor's.
Thanks.
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They are better, and still worth a try. Obviously you have an amp that will pretty much drive anything, and because it's the ideal amp to drive SCM40's, don't ignore those because of their looks.
I listened to some Square Twos when going round dealers to decide on some speakers. I was impressed, they were among the most musical and the amongst the best for bass timing. Definitely up there with Spendor A5 which I heard at a different dealer.
Ultimately I have ordered some ATC SCM40s which I preferred - their midrange is simply sublime. I think as well that I prefer sealed box to passive radiator - passive radiator design is actually fairly similar to ported with some of the same issues. Sealed box simply gives tighter bass.
Ultimately I have ordered some ATC SCM40s which I preferred - their midrange is simply sublime. I think as well that I prefer sealed box to passive radiator - passive radiator design is actually fairly similar to ported with some of the same issues. Sealed box simply gives tighter bass.
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As I've said, the Square Two's can sound fantastic on well recorded stuff, and they're worth a listen to those who like to listen to hi-fi show style music. I never really found them to be slow in the bass, probably because they were a little too lean to produce any quantities of bass that needed excessive control. The SCM40's are a better all round speaker, and can deal better with music that isn't quite so polished. The ATC's do have the advantage of their excellent midrange driver.
FrankHarveyHiFi:As I've said, the Square Two's can sound fantastic on well recorded stuff, and they're worth a listen to those who like to listen to hi-fi show style music. I never really found them to be slow in the bass, probably because they were a little too lean to produce any quantities of bass that needed excessive control. The SCM40's are a better all round speaker, and can deal better with music that isn't quite so polished. The ATC's do have the advantage of their excellent midrange driver.
Thanks guys,i think i have to decide between the Spendor A6 and ATC 40's.
Any advise thanks.
Thanks guys,i think i have to decide between the Spendor A6 and ATC 40's.
Any advise thanks.
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Hi burhan
I think i have mentioned to you before that i have used the SAI2-150 and 40's for a long time. This combination is stunning.
The X05 is high resolution and this is where the 40's qualities with their superb drive units (in particular the state of the art mid soft dome unit) will come in to play. They will allow the superb qualities of X05 and the SIA2-150 to breathe and hine through in a natural manner.
The performance potential of the 40's is massive and will also reveal the qualities of sources and amps of that are even better than the X05 and SIA2-150.
http://www.atc.gb.net/studioDriveUnits.htm
Thanks
Rick @ Musicraft
I think i have mentioned to you before that i have used the SAI2-150 and 40's for a long time. This combination is stunning.
The X05 is high resolution and this is where the 40's qualities with their superb drive units (in particular the state of the art mid soft dome unit) will come in to play. They will allow the superb qualities of X05 and the SIA2-150 to breathe and hine through in a natural manner.
The performance potential of the 40's is massive and will also reveal the qualities of sources and amps of that are even better than the X05 and SIA2-150.
http://www.atc.gb.net/studioDriveUnits.htm
Thanks
Rick @ Musicraft
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