What do YOU want from AV in 2017?

Benedict_Arnold

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New products, firmware fixes, unobtainium plated HDMI cables at 20p a foot?

Post 'em up.

Me? I'd like a 120 to 130 ish inch cinemascope 4K or 8K (or even 6K given the aspect ratio) LED screen of some sort (OLED, ULED, ?LED, I don't really know) that delivers black blacks, white whites, and every kind of hue, lightness and saturation in between. No tuner, no speakers, just one or two HDMI imputs and that's it.

And 9.4.6 surround sound.

All for 50p.
 

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An LG wallpaper oled tv.

https://www.avforums.com/video/video-lg-new-range-of-wallpaper-oled-tvs-and-first-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player.13252
 

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simonlewis said:
An LG wallpaper oled tv.

https://www.avforums.com/video/video-lg-new-range-of-wallpaper-oled-tvs-and-first-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player.13252
Is it difficult to get the patterns to line up?

How do you avoid getting paste on the front?

Etc....

:)
 

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Benedict_Arnold said:
New products, firmware fixes, unobtainium plated HDMI cables at 20p a foot?

Post 'em up.

An all-in-one would suit me. They are 2 a penny in CD land, but rarer than honest politicians in the AV market. I still use my Nain n-Vi for AV duties with an Oppo for Blu-Ray and Streaming. Why can't we have an AV n-Vi? Mainly because we can't pronoune it! But why not? Could Cyrus produce one that would be even uglier than the Lyric? Could Arcam produce one to match the Solo, presumably called the Multiple?

So an All-in-one Upscaling 4K/Blu-ray Player/Amplifier/DAC/Bluetooth/Streamer/USB/HDMI Chromecast/Headphone Amplifier/Coffee Machine? OK, maybe not the last bit.
 

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jjbomber said:
Benedict_Arnold said:
New products, firmware fixes, unobtainium plated HDMI cables at 20p a foot?

Post 'em up.

An all-in-one would suit me. They are 2 a penny in CD land, but rarer than honest politicians in the AV market. I still use my Nain n-Vi for AV duties with an Oppo for Blu-Ray and Streaming. Why can't we have an AV n-Vi? Mainly because we can't pronoune it! But why not? Could Cyrus produce one that would be even uglier than the Lyric? Could Arcam produce one to match the Solo, presumably called the Multiple?

So an All-in-one Upscaling 4K/Blu-ray Player/Amplifier/DAC/Bluetooth/Streamer/USB/HDMI Chromecast/Headphone Amplifier/Coffee Machine? OK, maybe not the last bit.
So basically a contemporary receiver with a Blu-Ray drive built in? Why on Earth would they do that when they can sell you two boxes already?
 

jjbomber

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Benedict_Arnold said:
jjbomber said:
So an All-in-one Upscaling 4K/Blu-ray Player/Amplifier/DAC/Bluetooth/Streamer/USB/HDMI Chromecast/Headphone Amplifier/Coffee Machine? OK, maybe not the last bit.
So basically a contemporary receiver with a Blu-Ray drive built in? Why on Earth would they do that when they can sell you two boxes already?

Because people are buying two boxes from two different manufacturers. So Naim get 1 sale, Oppo get 1 sale and Marantz get nothing. If Marantz brought out a 7007 Blu-Ray everything amp, they would open up a whole new marketplace and be guaranteed at least 1 sale.
 

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jjbomber said:
Benedict_Arnold said:
jjbomber said:
So an All-in-one Upscaling 4K/Blu-ray Player/Amplifier/DAC/Bluetooth/Streamer/USB/HDMI Chromecast/Headphone Amplifier/Coffee Machine? OK, maybe not the last bit.
So basically a contemporary receiver with a Blu-Ray drive built in? Why on Earth would they do that when they can sell you two boxes already?

Because people are buying two boxes from two different manufacturers. So Naim get 1 sale, Oppo get 1 sale and Marantz get nothing. If Marantz brought out a 7007 Blu-Ray everything amp, they would open up a whole new marketplace and be guaranteed at least 1 sale. 

I do like the idea, I was toying with the idea of a soundbase /AVR / BDP player myself, but some schmucks like me buy a Marantz receiver AND a Marantz BDP, or Samsung TV and Samsung BDP, just so one remote works both devices...
 
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Dolby Vision for the Oppo 203 and I am well away.
 

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A Sonos Connect with sound quality to match that of the best CA streamer.

Good call that. As a Tidal user, I find it remarkable how so many stand alone hifi streamers from Cambridge Audio, Denon / Marantz, Yamaha and others fail to incorporate this streaming service, even though Denon & Marantz's AV receivers DO stream Tidal!! But their dedicated streamers don't! Go figure?

What I'd like is one box that does this;

Tidal native streaming by ethernet or wifi (and a smattering of the other streaming services should Tidal go belly-up one day)

MQA compatability (see the other thread about Tidal hi-res streaming)

Internet Radio

A genuinely hifi DAC

At least 2 optical digital inputs (one of these for the TV, 99% of which now only output sound by by optical or HDMI) along with USB

2 analogue RCA inputs (one that can be Home Theatre Bypass compatible)

A volume pot and pre-amp

High-quality headphone output

Then add that box to a nice Nord Nc500 up power amp and you've got a pretty hi-end system in two boxes (plus speakers).

It's amazing how many products already do a random 80% of those features, but there always seems to be at least one crucial feature missing that you need to buy another box for, which undoes the minimalist approach.

Cambridge's CXN and 851N for example does many of the above features but lack Tidal, Qobuz or Deezer. What's the point in having a hifi quality streamer that doesn't stream the top 5 or 6 most popular streaming services, especially the lossless services, but can only stream lossy Spotify?

The new Arcam rPlay DAC does natively support Tidal but doesn't have ANY digital inputs so you can't plug your TV into it. What a waste of a DAC! So you have to buy ANOTHER identical looking DAC to plug your TV through the hifi. Mind bogglingly short-sighted for a 2017 product.

The Oppo HA-1 has a great DAC, headphone amp and pre-amp but doesn't stream Tidal. Their Bluray players DO stream Tidal.

The rather-over-my-budget Mytek Brooklyn DAC covers most of the features I'm looking for but still doesn't stream Tidal natively. I have to add a PC or Mac to do that, which ups the overall system cost even further.

The Peachtree Nova 150/300 has most of the above features but doesn't natively stream Tidal. You have to physically plug in your iThing, which can no longer be used from your seating position.

So there are a few manufacturers out there that if you could cobble together two or more of their own components, they'd tick all my boxes, but nobody seems to make exactly the right thing. I must just be weird.
 

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Leeps said:
Then add that box to a nice Nord Nc500 up power amp and you've got a pretty hi-end system in two boxes (plus speakers).

It's amazing how many products already do a random 80% of those features, but there always seems to be at least one crucial feature missing that you need to buy another box for, which undoes the minimalist approach.

The Oppo HA-1 has a great DAC, headphone amp and pre-amp but doesn't stream Tidal. Their Bluray players DO stream Tidal.

You know the Oppo 205 is also a DAC, headphone amp and pre-amp, as well as Tidal. One box to rule them all. Start saving as it is released in a few months time.
 

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Hi Leeps

I'm with you on the 80% of features comment.

Really all I want is a good interface (a la Sonos) that offers all the streaming services natively including internet radio and a high quality DAC. My amp or AV receiver can handle everything else.

I don't need inputs, a screen or any frills. I will operate it all from my phone as I do with Sonos. If the Sonos sounded better then it would meet all my needs perfectly.
 

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