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gasolin

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Andrewjvt said:
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Hi

Can you post some pictures of your set up?

Sounds interesting

I'll do a full report when all is finished (should be somewhere next month). But I can give you a preview...

EDIT: well, I could if I'd understand how to add photos to a post...

Hi

Try this one http://imgur.com/

Once you have uploaded your photo onto that site just copy and paste from imgur to what hifi as normal and it will upload the photo.

hope this helps

OK. Let's see...

Clicky

Bass seem a little thin ;-)

Haha! Yeah, hence the sub...

Didn't see any subwoofer in the pictures
 

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gasolin said:
DocG said:
gasolin said:
DocG said:
Andrewjvt said:
DocG said:
Andrewjvt said:
Hi

Can you post some pictures of your set up?

Sounds interesting

I'll do a full report when all is finished (should be somewhere next month). But I can give you a preview...

EDIT: well, I could if I'd understand how to add photos to a post...

Hi

Try this one http://imgur.com/

Once you have uploaded your photo onto that site just copy and paste from imgur to what hifi as normal and it will upload the photo.

hope this helps

OK. Let's see...

Clicky

Bass seem a little thin ;-)

Haha! Yeah, hence the sub...

Didn't see any subwoofer in the pictures

For now, that's because it isn't there yet. Should arrive next month. (But I'm not sure you will notice it then -- camouflage!)
 

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gasolin said:
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I have had a few active speakers, mostly studiomonitors

They all have som kind of hiss,white noise when you don't play music

Not all have a flat frequency response,most of them can play loud, small adam's lacked bass and a bit midrange,krk rokit powered 5 are punchy but are midbass heavy. often studiomonitors are bi amped, for preamp you can use something like a presonus,focusrite as a preamp or the bigger cambrigde dac that has a volume knob

Or for a small preamp like the Pro-Ject Pre Box S if you dont use a turntabel,very small if you like to have it next to your monitor (if used with a pc) or external harddrive it won't take up much space

Whilst a few monitors are noisy, they are easily avoided, the primary issue is driving them correctly from unbalanced outputs. The differential amps on the input are designed for balanced inputs but vary in the best method of driving them with an unbalanced source, some experience helps bet trial and error usually sorts it out.

Many of the better products designed for the home market have proper onbalanced inputs on phono (occasionally jack) sockets. Adam models do this and the A5x, A7x and my current Artist 6 are all absolutely silent. The Equator 5, another favourite of mine has a tiny amount of hiss, though inaudible at even nearfield listening distances of a netre or two.

For computer or hand held streaming based systems a preamp is not needed, a simple dac or Bluetooth/airplay reveiver is all you need. If you need more control and flexibility, Raumfeld and Yamaha offer inexpensive streamer/dac/preamp solutions at modest cost.

The Yamaha WXC50 and a pair of Adam A7x costs a little over £1k, superb value in my view.

Have used my studio monitors balanced

You have been sold cr@p. (Or possibly had faulty speakers)

There is no excuse for audible noise, My 'cheap as chips', Seiwin SN4s (£100pr when I bought them) were effectively silent, totally so at 1m, run unbalanced with the -ve phase of the input tied to ground.

Like any product range, some are much better than others, it makes no sense to use balanced inputs to minimise noise, then use noisy amplifiers.
 

gasolin

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davedotco said:
gasolin said:
davedotco said:
gasolin said:
I have had a few active speakers, mostly studiomonitors

They all have som kind of hiss,white noise when you don't play music

Not all have a flat frequency response,most of them can play loud, small adam's lacked bass and a bit midrange,krk rokit powered 5 are punchy but are midbass heavy. often studiomonitors are bi amped, for preamp you can use something like a presonus,focusrite as a preamp or the bigger cambrigde dac that has a volume knob

Or for a small preamp like the Pro-Ject Pre Box S if you dont use a turntabel,very small if you like to have it next to your monitor (if used with a pc) or external harddrive it won't take up much space

Whilst a few monitors are noisy, they are easily avoided, the primary issue is driving them correctly from unbalanced outputs. The differential amps on the input are designed for balanced inputs but vary in the best method of driving them with an unbalanced source, some experience helps bet trial and error usually sorts it out.

Many of the better products designed for the home market have proper onbalanced inputs on phono (occasionally jack) sockets. Adam models do this and the A5x, A7x and my current Artist 6 are all absolutely silent. The Equator 5, another favourite of mine has a tiny amount of hiss, though inaudible at even nearfield listening distances of a netre or two.

For computer or hand held streaming based systems a preamp is not needed, a simple dac or Bluetooth/airplay reveiver is all you need. If you need more control and flexibility, Raumfeld and Yamaha offer inexpensive streamer/dac/preamp solutions at modest cost.

The Yamaha WXC50 and a pair of Adam A7x costs a little over £1k, superb value in my view.

Have used my studio monitors balanced

You have been sold cr@p. (Or possibly had faulty speakers)

There is no excuse for audible noise, My 'cheap as chips', Seiwin SN4s (£100pr when I bought them) were effectively silent, totally so at 1m, run unbalanced with the -ve phase of the input tied to ground.

Like any product range, some are much better than others, it makes no sense to use balanced inputs to minimise noise, then use noisy amplifiers.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/1078245-jbl-lsr305-hiss-sound.html

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/917370-quietest-active-monitors-hiss-etc.html

I have had focal F5, adam audio i think it was the A5X and Yamaha HS8 just to mention 3 , they all had hiss,white noise (i now have a turntable), i think real active speakers like studio monitors (most of them are bi amped) not those with an amp in one speaker and a passive speaker, are good if you like a loud and punchy sound (krk rookit powered 5) to use with your computer for near field listening

I just don't want active studio monitors because of the hiss,white noise, not because i now have a turntable, i can just get a small preamp with a phono stage to control the volume
 

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gasolin said:
davedotco said:
gasolin said:
davedotco said:
gasolin said:
I have had a few active speakers, mostly studiomonitors

They all have som kind of hiss,white noise when you don't play music

Not all have a flat frequency response,most of them can play loud, small adam's lacked bass and a bit midrange,krk rokit powered 5 are punchy but are midbass heavy. often studiomonitors are bi amped, for preamp you can use something like a presonus,focusrite as a preamp or the bigger cambrigde dac that has a volume knob

Or for a small preamp like the Pro-Ject Pre Box S if you dont use a turntabel,very small if you like to have it next to your monitor (if used with a pc) or external harddrive it won't take up much space

Whilst a few monitors are noisy, they are easily avoided, the primary issue is driving them correctly from unbalanced outputs. The differential amps on the input are designed for balanced inputs but vary in the best method of driving them with an unbalanced source, some experience helps bet trial and error usually sorts it out.

Many of the better products designed for the home market have proper onbalanced inputs on phono (occasionally jack) sockets. Adam models do this and the A5x, A7x and my current Artist 6 are all absolutely silent. The Equator 5, another favourite of mine has a tiny amount of hiss, though inaudible at even nearfield listening distances of a netre or two.

For computer or hand held streaming based systems a preamp is not needed, a simple dac or Bluetooth/airplay reveiver is all you need. If you need more control and flexibility, Raumfeld and Yamaha offer inexpensive streamer/dac/preamp solutions at modest cost.

The Yamaha WXC50 and a pair of Adam A7x costs a little over £1k, superb value in my view.

Have used my studio monitors balanced

You have been sold cr@p. (Or possibly had faulty speakers)

There is no excuse for audible noise, My 'cheap as chips', Seiwin SN4s (£100pr when I bought them) were effectively silent, totally so at 1m, run unbalanced with the -ve phase of the input tied to ground.

Like any product range, some are much better than others, it makes no sense to use balanced inputs to minimise noise, then use noisy amplifiers.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/1078245-jbl-lsr305-hiss-sound.html

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/917370-quietest-active-monitors-hiss-etc.html

I have had focal F5, adam audio i think it was the A5X and Yamaha HS8 just to mention 3 , they all had hiss,white noise (i now have a turntable), i think real active speakers like studio monitors (most of them are bi amped) not those with an amp in one speaker and a passive speaker, are good if you like a loud and punchy sound (krk rookit powered 5) to use with your computer for near field listening

I just don't want active studio monitors because of the hiss,white noise, not because i now have a turntable, i can just get a small preamp with a phono stage to control the volume

I have had A5x, A7x, HS5s and HS7s plus my current Artist 6 in my home, driven by iThings direct, via an AEX and now by a Raumfeld Connector. No hiss audible whatsoever on the Adams and I needed to be within a few inches to hear anything on the Yamahas.

As your links suggest, there can be a hiss problem but there are cr@p products in any market. I have tried quite a few actives in my own home and never really been toubled by noise.

Guess I am just lucky?...*unknw*
 

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Last Wednesday I snatched a pair of Adam F5s from a local 2nd hand shop for 240EUR (1 year warranty included).

They're connected to a UnitiQute 2 (which I also bought used a few months ago). Before I was using the Naim in tandem with Guru Juniors (also preowned - ha!) as a 2nd system in a small living room, but I grew tired of that setup and decided to have a nearfield system in my study instead.

The F5s are very nice sounding monitors, great value for money even at 200EUR/each new. I'm loving the (perhaps weird) nearfield setup!
 

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