The B&W P5, first listen.

idc

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Popped into the Apple Shop today and gave these a right good first listen……..

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SOUND


I listened to a variety of tracks from The Rolling Stones to Lilly Allan. The P5s were straight into an ipod nano. I have no idea what EQ if any setting was on. I have no idea, but suspect that the files were probably itunes downloads and so lossy. Kicking off with The Rolling Stones and Street Fighting Years and there was great rhythm, clarity and detail. The sound was quite forward and bright (the file and EQ setting?) and the cymbals sounded odd and a bit flat. I then tried some Talking Heads and this was superb. David Byrne was crystal clear and the bass and drums very good without overwhelming. If that was not a lossless file then boy would lossless be a treat. Dance fans may mistake that bass clarity for a lack of bass.

Jamie Cullum is not my usual, but I wanted something different and it was a track Grand Torino off the film with Clint Eastwood. The piano and his vocals were stunning and I got goose bumps. Another more mellow track I tried was one form REM. I felt there Michael Stipe’s voice was too to the fore and it drowned out the plucked mandolin guitar of Peter Buck.

Next a bit of metal and Queensriche and American Soldier. It had great attack, dynamics and a good bit of menace came over with the spoken vocals. I finished off with Lilly Allan for a bit of compressed pop and that is exactly what I got, dance along compressed pop. Again, it was a very bright and forward sound, too much for me. But, these are being marketed as portable headphones and to the ipod generation, so maybe that is the best I can expect in The Apple Store.

Overall, very promising and I am going to have another try with my own portable set up. If the volume needs to be maxed out of an ipod, the headphones need amped to really make them sing. They are a good equal to my similarly priced AKG K702s. So, many cheaper cans will also come close in the overall sound, which means how can they be £250?


BUILD


They are beautifully made. They are quite small. The headband is thin and well padded. The drivers are tucked away inside the very comfortable lambs leather and memory foam pads. They are held on with magnets, one side so you can access the changeable cable. What was very clever was neither side was marked left and right. The metal adjustment looked very solid and well made. I tried them both ways and got an equally comfortable fit. That means you can have the cable either left or right hand side. I am not sure if that is intended or not, but they work both ways round.

They have a tight clamp on your ears to get the pads to stay on your ears. There is very much a sweat point to where you have them on your ears. If they move you noticeably lose volume and sound quality.

They are closed backed, but did not isolate as well as my Goldring NS1000 or the Bose QuietComfort 15. There was a not bad soundstage with the P5s, which could be down to them being closed backed and on ear, as opposed to over ear. They appeared to leak very little sound. I got a sales person to tolerate The Cure at full volume and whilst I got intimately close to them. All I could hear was the tizzz of the cymbals. But, it really needs a listen in a quiet room to properly judge them. They definitely leaked less sound than the Bose.

The metal back with its B&W logo makes these cans very classy. Will I buy them? Not at the moment. There is no doubt that you are paying a premium for the name and build. The sound is promising, but needs a trial with an amp and some lossless files to see if it improves to really impress. At the moment, for closed backed cans, the half the price AKG K271MkII remain my top of the list to get.
 
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Thanks for the mini review idc. I hope you aren't going to deny yourself the top of the range Grado's - you know you are tempted. Trouble is trying to find somewhere where you can audition them though - I took a risk on mine and ordered them blind knowing how good the 225's were.
 

idc

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Big Grados remain the big wish. I was hoping the P5s would satisfy both the need for leakless headphones and that something a bit special. But sadly I dont see them doing either. If anything they will replace my Goldrings for when I want a bit of isolation from the outside world, and they fold flat so they travel well to listen to when on holiday.
 

idc

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Clare Newsome:And you can read an expert review of the B&W P5 headphones in our next issue - with subscribers from 31st March, in shops by April 7th
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I assume you mean Mr Bentley is not an expert rather than me
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idc

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Funnily enough, on another more specialist headfi form there is almost universal agreement with myself and Mr Bentley, the P5s sound is not worth the money, but the design and build is. So, are B&W heading into B&O territory of a consesus of design over substance? (Not that I necessarily agree with that consensus).

Speaking to a nice salesperson in Glasgow Audio a couple of days ago, he said that the P5s are going to be the mid point of a range of three headphones. They are getting P5s in soon for audition as well, which means unlike in the Apple Store, they can be properly amped.
 

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i was just wondering when ppl reviewed these whether they were comparing with just closed back headphones as you would always expect similar priced open backed headphones to sound better - the most important thing to me though is that they leak as little sound as possible - what a set for bedroom listening with gf next to me so not to disturb her
 

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