thanks andy,if i go either one can the rear speakers go on stands same as the front L/R? ,ive also seen a good deal on the tannoy sensy 5.1 package they look smart would these be ok with onkyo 606? .Creative audio do a deal with 606 and tannoy f1 for £1098 with lots of speaker wire included are these any good ,i was going to upgrade to qed silv anniv instead what do you think?