im not going to say what im selling. But it is either/cd player or an amp its quite heavy and someone from spain has asked if i would sent it. I see alot of people say they sell uk only. Is there a danger in shipping to spain. As you can see this is my first time selling on ebay. Many thanks simon
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i try to avoid it for big heavy electrical items that you might not be able to track and trace online - you will need to check on courier company you are thinking of using also voltage difference ect all seems a headache to me - have sold lots of small items dvds. cds, games ect with no issues
Ebay..............good old Ebay the problem you have is that anything over 50 pounds (unless you are lucky) Ebay holds your monie untill the person : one gives you feedback or you have proof that they have signed for there goods (Tracking only works in this country once left it is on it own) before they give you your money. Now if that person gets his item and does not give you postive feedback or moans you won't get your monie untill Ebay checks this out. Spain is a long way to send something and not always if something goes wrong you get it back or get your monie ( a lot of conners out there). So i would only sell it uk only. 1. you got Tracking, 2. not far if anything goes wrong, 3. if he does not pay up not far to go to see them to sort it out.
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Whilst the strength of the Euro means that you're getting very good offers from European bidders, I'm currently in dispute with one because the item got broken in transit. Not usually a problem, but comms are proving very difficult - half the time I don't know if he's happy or not with what's being proposed.
Insurance for a valuable item to Europe is also a bit outrageous...
Insurance for a valuable item to Europe is also a bit outrageous...
i know its wrong then lads i might get the price for a recorded and insured delivery and add 25-35% on for me and that way it should price them out or if they go for im in pocket. But i am starting to regret saying ill get a price for him. i hate letting people down. Plus i know it is in great nick and works like a dream so you guys are right he could just say it has come through broken and then its a nightmare i guess to either get money or your product back.
Important. You have to send tracked, you need to be able to prove delivery with a signature.Which can be expensive.
To be honest i prefer to sell only to UK bidders, yes you limit your sales but a lot less hassle.
You can also set your seller preferences to block bidders from countrys you dont post to.
think ill do that i have 19 watchers lets see that go down to 2 lol. Big thanks to everyone for there advise
Just sold an amp to a guy in france, no reported problems, It will get sold in the uK probably, some items like Arcam go for silly prices. Make sure you send it with masses of packaging and write on the box in big letters:- USELESS IF DROPPED.
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I've just sold my old Marantz amp,cd, and tuner, Beresford DAC and interconnects on Ebay. I got loads of enquiries from Spain, Germany, Poland and Belgium. but no takers at the end of the day. All sold within the UK.
I work for one of the big couriers and I know first hand how the packages get from A to B. All I will say is to advise anyone shipping domestic or international to double box everything and pack them as tight as possible so there's no movement. Writing "Fragile" on a package wont mean special treatment either. The standard of some of the packaging that comes down the belt every morning defies belief at times.
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I work for one of the big couriers and I know first hand how the packages get from A to B. All I will say is to advise anyone shipping domestic or international to double box everything and pack them as tight as possible so there's no movement. Writing "Fragile" on a package wont mean special treatment either. The standard of some of the packaging that comes down the belt every morning defies belief at times.
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JohnDuncan:mains cables r us:write on the box in big letters:- USELESS IF DROPPED
Such labels as 'This way up' and 'Fragile' are meaningless to couriers. Just pack well, send it Special Delivery Next Day (Insured), and hope for the best.
The company contracted by Apple to repair my iMac* returned the computer in the original box, plus it was wrapped in another outer box, with lots of 'This way up' and 'Fragile' markings. But they put the iMac box in upside down!
It was ok though. (And my new HD is 320GB rather than the old 250GB one it replaced
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*Happily the HD failed 3.5 weeks before the 3 year Apple Care cover ran out.
Such labels as 'This way up' and 'Fragile' are meaningless to couriers. Just pack well, send it Special Delivery Next Day (Insured), and hope for the best.
The company contracted by Apple to repair my iMac* returned the computer in the original box, plus it was wrapped in another outer box, with lots of 'This way up' and 'Fragile' markings. But they put the iMac box in upside down!
It was ok though. (And my new HD is 320GB rather than the old 250GB one it replaced
*Happily the HD failed 3.5 weeks before the 3 year Apple Care cover ran out.
i paid £215 for a alpha alpha 9 of a friend who had used it a couple of times. It really looks brand new and sounds better than anything i had demo of under £500. Was that over the top have i fell into the arcam trap .
that reminds me of that jim carry film where he starts kicking the box up the stairs to the front door
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DIB:
I work for one of the big couriers and I know first hand how the packages get from A to B. All I will say is to advise anyone shipping domestic or international to double box everything and pack them as tight as possible so there's no movement. Writing "Fragile" on a package wont mean special treatment either. The standard of some of the packaging that comes down the belt every morning defies belief at times.
Appreciate the honesty there! It does not surprise me. I sent a couple of items overseas (well packaged) and they were broken by the time to buyer got them. Got insurance for them but I really try not to send anything breakable ouside the UK.
I work for one of the big couriers and I know first hand how the packages get from A to B. All I will say is to advise anyone shipping domestic or international to double box everything and pack them as tight as possible so there's no movement. Writing "Fragile" on a package wont mean special treatment either. The standard of some of the packaging that comes down the belt every morning defies belief at times.
Appreciate the honesty there! It does not surprise me. I sent a couple of items overseas (well packaged) and they were broken by the time to buyer got them. Got insurance for them but I really try not to send anything breakable ouside the UK.
quote:-Such labels as 'This way up' and 'Fragile' are meaningless to couriers.
Just pack well, send it Special Delivery Next Day (Insured), and hope
for the best.
an item of hi-fi will weigh at least 5kg, could be 15kg, royal mail special delivery, no chance at all, cost £30+ if they take it in the first place.
The words on the package mean something, sorry to dis-agree, UPS are the best of the lot and I have used them all, they picked up a rpksan cd players and amp for me from wales and brought it back un-scathed and have done 100's of other jobs and no problems at all. £8 for next day up to 25kg, beat that.
Just pack well, send it Special Delivery Next Day (Insured), and hope
for the best.
an item of hi-fi will weigh at least 5kg, could be 15kg, royal mail special delivery, no chance at all, cost £30+ if they take it in the first place.
The words on the package mean something, sorry to dis-agree, UPS are the best of the lot and I have used them all, they picked up a rpksan cd players and amp for me from wales and brought it back un-scathed and have done 100's of other jobs and no problems at all. £8 for next day up to 25kg, beat that.
Messiah:DIB:
I work for one of the big couriers and I know first hand how the packages get from A to B. All I will say is to advise anyone shipping domestic or international to double box everything and pack them as tight as possible so there's no movement. Writing "Fragile" on a package wont mean special treatment either. The standard of some of the packaging that comes down the belt every morning defies belief at times.
Appreciate the honesty there! It does not surprise me. I sent a couple of items overseas (well packaged) and they were broken by the time to buyer got them. Got insurance for them but I really try not to send anything breakable ouside the UK.
Don't get the wrong idea, the packages are not kicked up and down the warehouse, far from it. What I am saying is that to get a package from say Manchester to London involves an awful lot of handling at different stages of the operation... on van, off van, onto belt, into cage, into trunk vehicle, into hub, unloaded onto belt etc etc. It's endless. Imagine shipping something to Australia. How many times that's handled in the operation. The vast majority of packages arrive in perfectly good condition, undamaged. But, its better to go over the top on the packaging to be as sure as possible. Some customers seem to think that when they hand over a package going over to the USA for example, that you're taking it yourself personally!
As for price, I've always used DHL Economy for UK deliveries (and no I don't work for them). Costs me just over £8.00 per package (Amp/CD doesn't matter) and it's always been delivered next day though you're playing for a 2/3 day service. Costs more for extra insurance. Booked through Parcel2Go who are only middlemen anyway but have much better rates than going direct to the actual couriers.
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I work for one of the big couriers and I know first hand how the packages get from A to B. All I will say is to advise anyone shipping domestic or international to double box everything and pack them as tight as possible so there's no movement. Writing "Fragile" on a package wont mean special treatment either. The standard of some of the packaging that comes down the belt every morning defies belief at times.
Appreciate the honesty there! It does not surprise me. I sent a couple of items overseas (well packaged) and they were broken by the time to buyer got them. Got insurance for them but I really try not to send anything breakable ouside the UK.
Don't get the wrong idea, the packages are not kicked up and down the warehouse, far from it. What I am saying is that to get a package from say Manchester to London involves an awful lot of handling at different stages of the operation... on van, off van, onto belt, into cage, into trunk vehicle, into hub, unloaded onto belt etc etc. It's endless. Imagine shipping something to Australia. How many times that's handled in the operation. The vast majority of packages arrive in perfectly good condition, undamaged. But, its better to go over the top on the packaging to be as sure as possible. Some customers seem to think that when they hand over a package going over to the USA for example, that you're taking it yourself personally!
As for price, I've always used DHL Economy for UK deliveries (and no I don't work for them). Costs me just over £8.00 per package (Amp/CD doesn't matter) and it's always been delivered next day though you're playing for a 2/3 day service. Costs more for extra insurance. Booked through Parcel2Go who are only middlemen anyway but have much better rates than going direct to the actual couriers.
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ship it via parcel2go.com (signed for/recorded) ... place it in a large lidded hard plastic container ... add loads of polystrene chips and bubblewrap and pack it very tight ... charge the buyer the cost of the packing and container
dont tell the courier that it is an ebay sale ... insure it for £800 ... they will handle it very carefully
polystrene chips can be bought in large 15 cubic foot or smaller bags for cheap ... and bubblewrap is very cheap on ebay (up to 100 meter rolls)
dont tell the courier that it is an ebay sale ... insure it for £800 ... they will handle it very carefully
polystrene chips can be bought in large 15 cubic foot or smaller bags for cheap ... and bubblewrap is very cheap on ebay (up to 100 meter rolls)
Messiah
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DIB:
Don't get the wrong idea, the packages are not kicked up and down the warehouse, far from it. What I am saying is that to get a package from say Manchester to London involves an awful lot of handling at different stages of the operation... on van, off van, onto belt, into cage, into trunk vehicle, into hub, unloaded onto belt etc etc. It's endless. Imagine shipping something to Australia. How many times that's handled in the operation. The vast majority of packages arrive in perfectly good condition, undamaged. But, its better to go over the top on the packaging to be as sure as possible. Some customers seem to think that when they hand over a package going over to the USA for example, that you're taking it yourself personally!
True - something to bear in mind. Not something I really considered before to be honest....
Don't get the wrong idea, the packages are not kicked up and down the warehouse, far from it. What I am saying is that to get a package from say Manchester to London involves an awful lot of handling at different stages of the operation... on van, off van, onto belt, into cage, into trunk vehicle, into hub, unloaded onto belt etc etc. It's endless. Imagine shipping something to Australia. How many times that's handled in the operation. The vast majority of packages arrive in perfectly good condition, undamaged. But, its better to go over the top on the packaging to be as sure as possible. Some customers seem to think that when they hand over a package going over to the USA for example, that you're taking it yourself personally!
True - something to bear in mind. Not something I really considered before to be honest....
dim_span:
ship it via parcel2go.com (signed for/recorded) ... place it in a large lidded hard plastic container ... add loads of polystrene chips and bubblewrap and pack it very tight ... charge the buyer the cost of the packing and container
dont tell the courier that it is an ebay sale ... insure it for £800 ... they will handle it very carefully
polystrene chips can be bought in large 15 cubic foot or smaller bags for cheap ... and bubblewrap is very cheap on ebay (up to 100 meter rolls)
Whether you know its an Ebay sale or not, wont have any bearing on how the package is handled. You get good and bad couriers, fortunately in my experience the vast majority of us handle the packages with care. The bad one's get found out eventually.
The rise of "Owner Drivers" as opposed to staff has had a detremental effect in our industry. All owner drivers want is more jobs, which means more money, so corners get cut racing around to get that last extra job in. Luckily, the most professional and best courier companies (eg UPS/Fedex) are still in the main salaried positions and offer a better quality of service as there are more controls in place.
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ship it via parcel2go.com (signed for/recorded) ... place it in a large lidded hard plastic container ... add loads of polystrene chips and bubblewrap and pack it very tight ... charge the buyer the cost of the packing and container
dont tell the courier that it is an ebay sale ... insure it for £800 ... they will handle it very carefully
polystrene chips can be bought in large 15 cubic foot or smaller bags for cheap ... and bubblewrap is very cheap on ebay (up to 100 meter rolls)
Whether you know its an Ebay sale or not, wont have any bearing on how the package is handled. You get good and bad couriers, fortunately in my experience the vast majority of us handle the packages with care. The bad one's get found out eventually.
The rise of "Owner Drivers" as opposed to staff has had a detremental effect in our industry. All owner drivers want is more jobs, which means more money, so corners get cut racing around to get that last extra job in. Luckily, the most professional and best courier companies (eg UPS/Fedex) are still in the main salaried positions and offer a better quality of service as there are more controls in place.
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Whether you know its an Ebay sale or not, wont have any bearing on how the package is handled
If you book a courier, and you tell them it is an ebay sale, and it does get damaged during transit, they request the ebay number and check what it sold for ...
If you insure the item for a huge amount, it is amazing 'how careful' it gets handled ... that applies to both DHL, and Interlink .... (my wife ships approx 60 items a week)
If you book a courier, and you tell them it is an ebay sale, and it does get damaged during transit, they request the ebay number and check what it sold for ...
If you insure the item for a huge amount, it is amazing 'how careful' it gets handled ... that applies to both DHL, and Interlink .... (my wife ships approx 60 items a week)
we dont sell hifi stuff, however we have stopped using cardboard boxes for packing ...
those strong plastic containers are definately the answer and come in all sizes .... a large one costs a tenner and will easily hold an amp or cdp .... even Tesco sells some of the smaller sizes for cheap ...
when listing an item, make mention of how you pack and most people do not query the higher packaging cost
my wife sells antiques/collectables, and since using these plastic containers, she has never had any breakages/damage
she also buys bubble wrap in 100 meter rolls and polystrene chips in 15 cubic feet bags, but they are available in smaller sizes
those strong plastic containers are definately the answer and come in all sizes .... a large one costs a tenner and will easily hold an amp or cdp .... even Tesco sells some of the smaller sizes for cheap ...
when listing an item, make mention of how you pack and most people do not query the higher packaging cost
my wife sells antiques/collectables, and since using these plastic containers, she has never had any breakages/damage
she also buys bubble wrap in 100 meter rolls and polystrene chips in 15 cubic feet bags, but they are available in smaller sizes
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