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I'm living in the Netherlands and here in my area i can not buy WHF. Has WHF the Kef R300 test and can somebody give me the testresult? Thanks!
 

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I posted a hifi choice best speaker under £1000 a week or so ago. Just such my user name for the post.

The kef r300 came out tops btw and i can also vouch for the quality
 

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Thanks. It seems a interesting speaker. I listen to many rock and metal and on many speakers this sounds too bright. Yestersay i've heard the Tannoy xt6f and can not understand why it is speaker of the year. The highes are so bright. Not pleasant.
 

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Maybe it's the crappy recordings?

I thought the R300 was pleasantly smooth without being dull. If I had the space i was considering upgrading to them at one stage.
 

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Yes, i know but can not changes that. Thats why i'am looking at a speaker with pleasant highes. But also not dull or boring.

But is my amp nad c356 a good match for the r300?
 

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loneranger said:
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Yes, i know but can not changes that. Thats why i'am looking at a speaker with pleasant highes. But also not dull or boring.

But is my amp nad c356 a good match for the r300?

 
It might be on the warm side...but only you can decide if you like the end result.
 

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loneranger said:
I'm living in the Netherlands and here in my area i can not buy WHF. Has WHF the Kef R300 test and can somebody give me the testresult? Thanks!

We tested the KEF R300 in our November 2015 issue of the magazine and gave it four stars, the review hasn't gone online yet (it will go live on November 4th).

FOR: Broad, fluid dynamics; even tonal balance; precise timing; spacious; elegant

AGAINST: Tough competition; bass could be better integrated; biggish cabinet

VERDICT: Style and performance make these KEFs a good buy - if you can house them
 

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I've demoed the R300 and IMO they really need some space around them and not placed around tight corners or they'll sound boomy and dominates the mid and high freq. I end up with LS50 due to room size. I prefer them over B&W 685 s2 and MA Silver2 though the two are much cheaper.
 

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Thanks for the reply and Andy thanks for the testresult. I've heard the tannoy at a dealer where the speaker just a hour before arrived. The amp was a denon 1520. It has nice bass and very good dynamics, but i dubt about the highes. Music was from Nightwish, cd Once. The kef r300 was heard at another dealer. Amp here was a Marantz pearl lite. Not so dynamics as the tannoy, very much bass, voices not so upfront, but laid back, but never bright, maybe a little dull. Not so engaging as the tannoy. I find it difficult. And no, no other brands.
 

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IMO. Tannoy pairs well with amps like Arcam, Sugden, Electrcompaniet, Croft and Pathos...which stops edginess creeping in.

R300s, not only need space, but an amp that can keep the bass in check....which usually means spending in the £1500 to £2500 range....Rega, Arcam, Creek, Hegel.
 

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CnoEvil said:
IMO. Tannoy pairs well with amps like Arcam, Sugden, Electrcompaniet, Croft and Pathos...which stops edginess creeping in.

R300s, not only need space, but an amp that can keep the bass in check....which usually means spending in the £1500 to £2500 range....Rega, Arcam, Creek, Hegel.

Regarding amp my old roksan kandy could not control the r700s

Btw never had a problem with bass intergration at all. Best thibg the kefs for me had the emotional voice quality over the over speakers i tested. Next best up for me would be the dynaudio dm 2/7
 

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loneranger said:
Maybe it is better to look at the b&w 684s2 and the 685s2. There is a dealer in my area so i can listen.

Are you not able to audition the R300's? I have these speakers, and am very happy with them. I agree about the positioning, but in the right place and with an amp with control, they display a great sense of scale with no hint of listening fatigue, unlike the MA GX100's that I compared them with in a home demo.
 

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Are you not able to audition the R300's? I have these speakers, and am very happy with them. I agree about the positioning, but in the right place and with an amp with control, they display a great sense of scale with no hint of listening fatigue, unlike the MA GX100's that I compared them with in a home demo.
I also think these speakers are worth the extra effort to get "right".
 

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Are you not able to audition the R300's? I have these speakers, and am very happy with them. I agree about the positioning, but in the right place and with an amp with control, they display a great sense of scale with no hint of listening fatigue, unlike the MA GX100's that I compared them with in a home demo.
I also think these speakers are worth the extra effort to get "right".

Well put. When I set out to buy some speakers, I tried quite a few and narrowed it down to the aforementioned. Of course, it would have been nice to home demo lots more, but not really practical. Of course, everyone's ears/expectations/likes are different, but to be honest, I found lots of speakers sounded very ordinary, even some floor standers didn't have the scale/weight of the R300's. I suppose if I'm honest, I would like to have gone for the GX 100's, wonderfully revealing speakers, but to me, their strength became their weakness after 20 minutes of listening, very fatiguing. Quite some years ago, I had some Kef Concorde IV's which had 8" drivers, and whilst I'm not going to say that the R300's can compare equally in the scale department, they're not that far away, imo. Quite something really.
 

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Freddy58 said:
Well put. When I set out to buy some speakers, I tried quite a few and narrowed it down to the aforementioned. Of course, it would have been nice to home demo lots more, but not really practical. Of course, everyone's ears/expectations/likes are different, but to be honest, I found lots of speakers sounded very ordinary, even some floor standers didn't have the scale/weight of the R300's. I suppose if I'm honest, I would like to have gone for the GX 100's, wonderfully revealing speakers, but to me, their strength became their weakness after 20 minutes of listening, very fatiguing. Quite some years ago, I had some Kef Concorde IV's which had 8" drivers, and whilst I'm not going to say that the R300's can compare equally in the scale department, they're not that far away, imo. Quite something really.
It is very easy for a bright sound to come across as more detailed, when all it's doing is putting extra emphasis on the treble region.

I have generally found that detail comes from the Source...and then a good quality, low distortion amp is then required to pass on that signal as cleanly as possible.
 

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Freddy58 said:
Well put. When I set out to buy some speakers, I tried quite a few and narrowed it down to the aforementioned. Of course, it would have been nice to home demo lots more, but not really practical. Of course, everyone's ears/expectations/likes are different, but to be honest, I found lots of speakers sounded very ordinary, even some floor standers didn't have the scale/weight of the R300's. I suppose if I'm honest, I would like to have gone for the GX 100's, wonderfully revealing speakers, but to me, their strength became their weakness after 20 minutes of listening, very fatiguing. Quite some years ago, I had some Kef Concorde IV's which had 8" drivers, and whilst I'm not going to say that the R300's can compare equally in the scale department, they're not that far away, imo. Quite something really.
It is very easy for a bright sound to come across as more detailed, when all it's doing is putting extra emphasis on the treble region.

I have generally found that detail comes from the Source...and then a good quality, low distortion amp is then required to pass on that signal as cleanly as possible.

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Do the kef r300 need more space than the Tannoy? And i am the onlyone who found the Tannoy on the bright side? I also heard Monitor Audio silver. Horrible highes!
 

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loneranger said:
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Do the kef r300 need more space than the Tannoy? And i am the onlyone who found the Tannoy on the bright side? I also heard Monitor Audio silver. Horrible highes!

 
IME. The Tannoys sound leaner than the Kefs, so may well need less space.

Others have found the Tannoys can sound a little hard edged when pushed with a poor recording...but this can (IMO) be mitigated with system matching.
 

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I auditioned the Tannoy DC6T SE's, and indeed found them quite lean, detail seemed pretty good though.

Loneranger, I just noticed you said that you thought the R300's were a bit "dull", in which case they might not be the speaker for you.
 

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It will be a compromise, especially with my music. On which speaker sounds rock and metal the best. I think better a little dull than bright highes which isn't listenable for me.
 

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loneranger said:
It will be a compromise, especially with my music. On which speaker sounds rock and metal the best. I think better a little dull than bright highes which isn't listenable for me.

I like a fairly assorted range of music, including good old-fashioned rock. These seem to do rock quite well. Best thing though is to try them at home before you buy, if you can.
 

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loneranger said:
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It will be a compromise, especially with my music. On which speaker sounds rock and metal the best. I think better a little dull than bright highes which isn't listenable for me.
IMO. You should probably get the R300s and budget for a better amp at some time in the future. They will need solid, partly filled stands, to help get the best from them. You can always use the Part Bungs if necessary.
 

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