Panasonic PZ81B Full Screen Aspect When Watching DVD Movies?

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Hi all,

Is there a way to eliminate the black aspect bars at the top & bottom of the screen when watching DVD or Blue Ray at all?

Many thanks.

 

[Anonymous]

Press ASPECT and choose one of the zoom options on the TV remote.

 

[Anonymous]

if the dvd is upscaling then sometimes you change the aspect.

 

[professorhat]

Yup, use the Zoom functions. Of course this will crop the sides of the picture off the TV so you can't see them, but that's physics for you I'm afraid.

 

[D.J.KRIME]

professorhat:

Yup, use the Zoom functions. Of course this will crop the sides of the picture off the TV so you can't see them, but that's physics for you I'm afraid.

As the prof said this is the only way to eliminate the black bars but in doing so you will introduce extra picture noise due to zooming in on the picture. IMHO exactly why you would want to zoom in to eliminate the black bars bewilders me as you are seeing the film as it was originally shot and this means the preasence of black bars due to the movies native aspect ratio.

If these bars bug you that much maybe you should invest into the Philips Cinema 21:9 56PFL9954H as this eliminates the black bars but with far less picture cropping due to its 21:9 ratio rather than a standard 16:9 widescreen TV. it is rather a expensive way around it tho and personally I prefer balck bars to picture cropping.

 

[Anonymous]

MOST TVS CROP TO SOME EXTENT DONT THEY? MY TV HAS THX MODE AND THAT HAS AUTO OVERSCAN WHICH CANT BE DISABLED AND LOSES ME SOME PICTURE. ON A DIFFERENT VIEWING MODE WITH OVERSCAN OFF YOU GET THE WHOLE PICTURE BUT WITH A FAINT LINE RUNNING DOWN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. IN THIS CASE LOSING PART OF THE PICTURE IS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS. SO THERE ARE REASONS TO ZOOM IN.

 

[D.J.KRIME]

hmtb:MOST TVS CROP TO SOME EXTENT DONT THEY? MY TV HAS THX MODE AND THAT HAS AUTO OVERSCAN WHICH CANT BE DISABLED AND LOSES ME SOME PICTURE. ON A DIFFERENT VIEWING MODE WITH OVERSCAN OFF YOU GET THE WHOLE PICTURE BUT WITH A FAINT LINE RUNNING DOWN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. IN THIS CASE LOSING PART OF THE PICTURE IS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS. SO THERE ARE REASONS TO ZOOM IN.

All TV's will slightly crop a image if overscan is enabled but if viewing a native 1080 signal (presuming you are using a 1080 pannel) and setting the TV to 1:1 pixel mapping (Just Scan mode on my Samsung) then there is no picture cropping at all but personally I do not get any faint lint running down the side of my screen as you have described when viewing DVD upscalled to 1080p or BD, the only time I have witnessed this was when I tried letting my SkyHD box upscale everything to 1080 and setting the screen to 1:1 pixel mapping and on some 4:3 programs you could see the carrier info that is usually out of view.

 

[professorhat]

Some TVs do yes, but there is a bit of a difference between the centimetre or two lost with overscan compared to the inches lost each side when fully zoomed in to get rid of the black bars.

I wouldn't dictate either way to anyone though, personally I like to see the whole picture so don't mind the black bars, but I know others prefer full screen mode (i.e. no black bars) and this is what the Zoom function is for. There's no right or wrong answer, but just thought it was worth pointing out.

 

[Anonymous]

I DONT GET THE LINE ON BLU RAY, ONLY ON TV AND DVD. I SAW MY TV IN A SHOP WITH MY BLU RAY PLAYER AND IT DID THE SAME THING. A DIFFERENT PLAYER DIDNT SHOW THIS LINE ON THE SAME TV, BUT TV VIRGIN VIA SCART DOES SOMETHING SIMILAR. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A SOLUTION OTHER THAN OVERSCAN? I DONT LIKE LOSING PART OF THE PICTURE.

 

[D.J.KRIME]

PLESAE STOP SHOUTING!(caps lock)

AFAIK the only way to loose this line is to leave overscan on as it is transmitted infomation that on a traditional TV(non HD) you would not see due to this info falling outside of the TV viewing area.

You say you also get this with DVD, are you upscaling your DVD to 1080 or is the screen doing the upscaling?

 

[Anonymous]

SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, IM ON MY PHONE AND I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN CAPS OFF WHEN ON THIS FORUM - IT DOES IT ON AUTO HERE FOR SOME REASON! THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION. I THINK MY PLAYER UPSCLES DVD TO 1080 BECAUSE THATS WHAT I OUTPUT RESOLUTION AT. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO GET MY TV TO DO THE UPSCALING.

 

[Anonymous]

Does anybody on this forum know how to get a panasonic tv to do the upscaling? Would this be preferable to the blu ray player upscaling when watching dvd?

 

[professorhat]

To get the TV to upscale, you need to set both the Blu-Ray player and your Onkyo 876 to output 576p which is PAL's native resolution (or set the Onkyo to Through, which means it will just pass through whatever it gets from the Blu-Ray player without trying to upscale it). Since the TV is then receiving a standard def signal, it will then automatically upscale it to match its own 1080p resolution. To get the Onkyo to upscale, set it back to output 1080p, whilst leaving the Blu-Ray at 576p.

It's worth trying, but in general, the Blu-Ray players themselves tend to do a better job with upscaling than the TVs. If you do prefer the TV though, just remember you need to change the output on the Blu-Ray player back to 1080p when watching Blu-Rays!

 

[Anonymous]

THANKS D.J. KRIME AND PROFESSORHAT. I'VE SET THE BLU RAY PLAYER TO OUTPUT DVD AT 576P RATHER THAN 1080 THAT I HAD BEFORE. THE PICTURE IS VERY GOOD - TV DOES AS GOOD A JOB, IMO, AS THE BDP AND THE LINE IS NO LONGER THERE, WITH OVERSCAN OFF AND NO LOSS OF PICTURE! THANKS AGAIN. I THINK IT WAS YOU, PROFESSORHAT, WHO SUGGESTED USING DIMMER TO GET RID OF THE BLUE LIGHTS ON MY BDP. I SAID IT DIDNT WORK - TURNS OUT YOU HAVE TO PRESS IT 3 TIMES AND GIVE IT A SECOND FOR IT TO DO IT, BUT IT DID IT. THANKS AGAIN.