chebby
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Why indeed?oldric_naubhoff said:on the other hand. if piece of equipment lasts for 34 years and is still in good working condition why should we expect it'll collapse soon after we buy it?
Baffling isn't it?
Why indeed?oldric_naubhoff said:on the other hand. if piece of equipment lasts for 34 years and is still in good working condition why should we expect it'll collapse soon after we buy it?
well, you don't think you'd be able to drive a car without any servicing for 34 years, do you? manual volume potentiometer is more mechanical part than electical so some level of wearing may be expected over such a long period of time. of course, potentiometers don't suffer such levels of mechanical friction as for instance wheel bearings but then again you don't need to make serices every 5 years or so.chebby said:Baffling isn't it?oldric_naubhoff said:on the other hand. if piece of equipment lasts for 34 years and is still in good working condition why should we expect it'll collapse soon after we buy it?
a good point but only backing up my view. mass production - no good. however, I didn't realise that this thing with poor production standards was plaguing high volume manufacturing for so long.chebby said:Why indeed?oldric_naubhoff said:on the other hand. if piece of equipment lasts for 34 years and is still in good working condition why should we expect it'll collapse soon after we buy it?
True in most cases, but many dealers selling secondhand gear will give a warranty - Audio Emotion being the best example who often hand out a five year warranty with their used equipment. See also Jordan Acoustics. Others give anything from three months to a year, or will honour a manufacturers warranty if the item is still in the original warranty period.chebby said:...or if they might want the peace of mind of 3 year/5 year guarantees on their expensive gear. I have had free repairs (major ones in some cases) on an LCD TV, an item of hi-fi, an Apple iMac and a Dell laptop in the last two years.the record spot said:Which is fine if you're buying from a value for money perspective, but not everyone will be buying with that criteria in mind. Some will want new, so a 34 year old amp won't kick it for them, others won't want nearly 40lbs of amp sitting on their sideboard/rack, others will want more up to date technology onboard...
If they had not been covered by their respective 3, 4 and 5 year guarantees - because of being bought second-hand - then I would have spent a small fortune getting those repairs done by manufacturers (or their approved agents) with all brand-new parts (and shipped to and from my home free of charge). In the case of the TV we were even given a loan set for 2 weeks whilst ours was awaiting parts from Samsung and being repaired.
Well, my amp is indeed 34 years old, but it needed a service to remove some corroded capacitors and clean up some of the infamous Sansui glue residue. So yes, it's still ticking over, but rather like old cars, old gear carries a hefty caveat that is ongoing TLC. Then again, my amp's only been serviced twice since I've had it, which is rather better than some Cyrus Servo Evolution players which are some decades its junior...oldric_naubhoff said:well, you don't think you'd be able to drive a car without any servicing for 34 years, do you? manual volume potentiometer is more mechanical part than electical so some level of wearing may be expected over such a long period of time. of course, potentiometers don't suffer such levels of mechanical friction as for instance wheel bearings but then again you don't need to make serices every 5 years or so.chebby said:Baffling isn't it?oldric_naubhoff said:on the other hand. if piece of equipment lasts for 34 years and is still in good working condition why should we expect it'll collapse soon after we buy it?
plus after so many years you'd do well to replace caps too. they should be able to withstand many years of home use but after 34 years replacing (or indeed upgrading) them would be advisable to return amp's performance to its former glory.
Shaunaudiosanctum said:A dealer willing to put his neck on the line;
1. Room acoustics
2. Match the speakers to the room
3. Match the amp to the speakers
4. Match the source/s to the amp
5. Match all with transparent cables
(Time to run for cover)
Such as? And if your saying cables go up in budget with the rest of the kit, what range of cables are you speaking of?audiosanctum said:5. Match all with transparent cables
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On reflexion, this is a clever answer.audiosanctum said:A dealer willing to put his neck on the line;
1. Room acoustics
2. Match the speakers to the room
3. Match the amp to the speakers
4. Match the source/s to the amp
5. Match all with transparent cables
(Time to run for cover)
Phew!! It is difficult when starting with a new system but if you have already done some research as in shop demos you already should have an idea of what sort of sound you like. You then can base your speaker choice on your tastes, ie. bass junkie or not etc. As for cables, well, that is always a difficult question and one that can only be answered by home demo's with your own kit and plenty of them.CnoEvil said:dealer escapes with credibility intact. I like it. Cno