Just agreed a deal for two Clearer Audio Silver Lines, with added Furutech and Wattgate 350i plugs. Going on my amps when I pick them up next week.
New purchase - placebo follow-on
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idc
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They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
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So long as she doesn't read this thread!
I think i'm going to try and get my local shop to lend me some different mains leads when we move. We noticed no difference at all in the shop when listening to kit last year.
I think i'm going to try and get my local shop to lend me some different mains leads when we move. We noticed no difference at all in the shop when listening to kit last year.
Lost Angeles
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JoelSim:
They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
Unless she reads your post's on here
They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
Unless she reads your post's on here
JoelSim:
They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
And you won't be deceiving the missus because you won't have made any improvement. Brilliant.
They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
And you won't be deceiving the missus because you won't have made any improvement. Brilliant.
Lost Angeles:JoelSim:
They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
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Unless she reads your post's on here
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Hell would freeze over before that jhappened.
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They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
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Unless she reads your post's on here
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Hell would freeze over before that jhappened.
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Cyril Mason:JoelSim:
They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
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And you won't be deceiving the missus because you won't have made any improvement. Brilliant.
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As I have said before, you couldn't be more wrong Cyril. If I hadn't have noticed a nice difference when I put the Nordost in, then I'm hardly likely to have spent another £300!
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They are costing me £300 second hand and if they have the same effect as my Nordost Shiva then it will be money well spent!. There is method in this madness - the missus won't have a clue about the cables, so when in a year's time I suggest an upgrade of some part of my system then she will not think I've done anything for ages...and the cables will be perfectly good enough to support a major upgrade
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And you won't be deceiving the missus because you won't have made any improvement. Brilliant.
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As I have said before, you couldn't be more wrong Cyril. If I hadn't have noticed a nice difference when I put the Nordost in, then I'm hardly likely to have spent another £300!
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matengawhat
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matengawhat:would be keen to hear what your thoughts are compared to the merlins -
Well the Nordost has made a huge difference over the Tarantula.
Far more depth, detail - breaths in voices etc
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Well the Nordost has made a huge difference over the Tarantula.
Far more depth, detail - breaths in voices etc
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momo72:
JoelSim: I can hearÿvoices etc
It's all in your head...
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LOL.
Cyril, you're wrong I tell you, wrong. Aaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
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JoelSim: I can hearÿvoices etc
It's all in your head...
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LOL.
Cyril, you're wrong I tell you, wrong. Aaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
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JoelSim:momo72:
JoelSim: I can hear voices etc
It's all in your head...
LOL.
Cyril, you're wrong I tell you, wrong. Aaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
LOL. I must admit I admire your style, JoelSim. While I disagree with the premise of the audiophile cables, you have remained very calm and good spirited with all the scepticism (including from myself) sent in your direction. I am not sure I would be so good natured!
P.S. I hope the 300 pound (no pound sign on my keyboard hehe) placebo sounds better!
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JoelSim: I can hear voices etc
It's all in your head...
LOL.
Cyril, you're wrong I tell you, wrong. Aaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
LOL. I must admit I admire your style, JoelSim. While I disagree with the premise of the audiophile cables, you have remained very calm and good spirited with all the scepticism (including from myself) sent in your direction. I am not sure I would be so good natured!
P.S. I hope the 300 pound (no pound sign on my keyboard hehe) placebo sounds better!
D
eternaloptimist:JoelSim:momo72:
JoelSim: I can hear voices etc
It's all in your head...
LOL.
Cyril, you're wrong I tell you, wrong. Aaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
LOL. I must admit I admire your style, JoelSim. While I disagree with the premise of the audiophile cables, you have remained very calm and good spirited with all the scepticism (including from myself) sent in your direction. I am not sure I would be so good natured!
P.S. I hope the 300 pound (no pound sign on my keyboard hehe) placebo sounds better!
D
It's such a subjective err subject.
Each to his (or her) own...it'll just be me who's enjoying the improvements whilst the sceptics have to settle for lesser sounds
JoelSim: I can hear voices etc
It's all in your head...
LOL.
Cyril, you're wrong I tell you, wrong. Aaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
LOL. I must admit I admire your style, JoelSim. While I disagree with the premise of the audiophile cables, you have remained very calm and good spirited with all the scepticism (including from myself) sent in your direction. I am not sure I would be so good natured!
P.S. I hope the 300 pound (no pound sign on my keyboard hehe) placebo sounds better!
D
It's such a subjective err subject.
Each to his (or her) own...it'll just be me who's enjoying the improvements whilst the sceptics have to settle for lesser sounds
Whilst we await JoelSim's findings on his mains purchase.......
I received my Clearer Audio Copperline mains cable today on the 60 day guarantee thing - basically i have little else i can realistically upgrade given various agreements i made at home on the number of hi-fi boxes etc
And so the first impressions were yes it did make a difference, albeit subtle rather than substantial. Bear in mind i think my system sounds great anyway.
The key difference after a few hours testing back and forward was that there was a small improvement to the separation of the music layers as if it was put slightly more into focus. Also vocals seemed slightly sweeter to listen to. The bass on some tracks lost a smidgen of boom. The effect was more on the CD than the amp although i felt the amp also benefited. Was it worthwhile ? Well i would certainly get another for the amplifier. However to also qualify i would upgrade these after you have got the best separates you can. I am also happy knowing i am getting the best out of the system as it needs to last me a while.
I am left though with the oddity that ive never found any benefit on more expensive interconnects above the £50 mark and i really am not sure why this is. Just shows every system is different.
I received my Clearer Audio Copperline mains cable today on the 60 day guarantee thing - basically i have little else i can realistically upgrade given various agreements i made at home on the number of hi-fi boxes etc
And so the first impressions were yes it did make a difference, albeit subtle rather than substantial. Bear in mind i think my system sounds great anyway.
The key difference after a few hours testing back and forward was that there was a small improvement to the separation of the music layers as if it was put slightly more into focus. Also vocals seemed slightly sweeter to listen to. The bass on some tracks lost a smidgen of boom. The effect was more on the CD than the amp although i felt the amp also benefited. Was it worthwhile ? Well i would certainly get another for the amplifier. However to also qualify i would upgrade these after you have got the best separates you can. I am also happy knowing i am getting the best out of the system as it needs to last me a while.
I am left though with the oddity that ive never found any benefit on more expensive interconnects above the £50 mark and i really am not sure why this is. Just shows every system is different.
crusaderlord:Whilst we await JoelSim's findings on his mains purchase.......
I received my Clearer Audio Copperline mains cable today on the 60 day guarantee thing - basically i have little else i can realistically upgrade given various agreements i made at home on the number of hi-fi boxes etc
And so the first impressions were yes it did make a difference, albeit subtle rather than substantial. Bear in mind i think my system sounds great anyway.
The key difference after a few hours testing back and forward was that there was a small improvement to the separation of the music layers as if it was put slightly more into focus. Also vocals seemed slightly sweeter to listen to. The bass on some tracks lost a smidgen of boom. The effect was more on the CD than the amp although i felt the amp also benefited. Was it worthwhile ? Well i would certainly get another for the amplifier. However to also qualify i would upgrade these after you have got the best separates you can. I am also happy knowing i am getting the best out of the system as it needs to last me a while.
I am left though with the oddity that ive never found any benefit on more expensive interconnects above the £50 mark and i really am not sure why this is. Just shows every system is different.
On another forum after a huge debate on interconnects with some people who knew their stuff on either side of the argument they arranged to meet in a hi-fi shop (with the owners agreement) and do some blind testing. They had some luck distinguishing those thin black cables that equipment comes with from £10 interconnects, after that, and I think in this test they had some very highly priced interconnects, hardly anyone could tell any difference at all.
Someone put a link to the test here once. But anyway, as they say in the X-Files, you are not alone.
I received my Clearer Audio Copperline mains cable today on the 60 day guarantee thing - basically i have little else i can realistically upgrade given various agreements i made at home on the number of hi-fi boxes etc
And so the first impressions were yes it did make a difference, albeit subtle rather than substantial. Bear in mind i think my system sounds great anyway.
The key difference after a few hours testing back and forward was that there was a small improvement to the separation of the music layers as if it was put slightly more into focus. Also vocals seemed slightly sweeter to listen to. The bass on some tracks lost a smidgen of boom. The effect was more on the CD than the amp although i felt the amp also benefited. Was it worthwhile ? Well i would certainly get another for the amplifier. However to also qualify i would upgrade these after you have got the best separates you can. I am also happy knowing i am getting the best out of the system as it needs to last me a while.
I am left though with the oddity that ive never found any benefit on more expensive interconnects above the £50 mark and i really am not sure why this is. Just shows every system is different.
On another forum after a huge debate on interconnects with some people who knew their stuff on either side of the argument they arranged to meet in a hi-fi shop (with the owners agreement) and do some blind testing. They had some luck distinguishing those thin black cables that equipment comes with from £10 interconnects, after that, and I think in this test they had some very highly priced interconnects, hardly anyone could tell any difference at all.
Someone put a link to the test here once. But anyway, as they say in the X-Files, you are not alone.
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