Needle noise

[Mike_Schmidt]

What is a accpetable amount of noise, if you can hear the needle in between songs is that right or is something wrong? Can you erase this noise even from a new LP never played? Im just not feeling the feedback and find it really hard on my ears the sound that occurs between songs, dont know why just do.
Music Hall 5.1 Se for a turntable and rega phone mini for pre.
Thanks Mike

 

[gregory]

Hello, i hope i can help but bear with me as there are maybe 3 answers in one here. you will always hear some sort of surface noise as JD will testify with his 180gms vinyl, so John if your reading this i hope this helps you as well as Chebby and yourself Mike. I did some adjusting of my cartridge alignment over the weekend and found my pressure was out by almost 3/4 of a gm and the stylus was not flush with the protractor lines, so a must do is to get yourself some scales, tracking force is vitally important as after adjusting my cartridge so the stylus is in line with the protractor lines and the weight was dialed in correctlty surface noise all but disappeared. So remember folks it's the stylus that needs to be in line not the cartridge in the headshell and the weight must be as accurate as possible. Good luck and all the best, Gregory.

 

[Mike_Schmidt]

Well thanks I will try that tonight when I get home

 

[DistortedVision]

A few suggestions...Have you tried increasing the tracking force to the maximum of the range recommended by the manufacturer? Cleaning with a vacuum record cleaning machine also helps with surface noise. New records need cleaning to remove the mould release agent from the grooves.

Also surface noise varies with the cartridge, tonearm and turntable. Any disc playback system is a collection of more or less rigid structures that carry a whole collection of self-resonant modes.
During playback these modes are excited by wide-band signals coming off the LP, including these induced by clicks and pops. Since many modes are poorly damped they tend to prolong the effects of surface imperfections in time.

A turntable/arm/cartridge structure with less resonant modes will generate less imperfection-induced noise. And a structure with better damping will kill off the resonant trails faster.

 

[chebby]

gregory:Hello, i hope i can help but bear with me as there are maybe 3 answers in one here. you will always hear some sort of surface noise as JD will testify with his 180gms vinyl, so John if your reading this i hope this helps you as well as Chebby and yourself Mike.

Eh?

I don't have these problems. Thanks anyway.

 

[gregory]

Glad to hear it Chebby, i didn't mean to imply that you or john have any issues with setting up your TT's it's just that i thought i knew how to set mine up after 35 years of using them and then found i'm not so competent after all, not that any I've used sounded that bad just that we can get a bit more out of them with a bit more patience and careful set up.

 

[John Duncan]

Yeah I'm not bothered by surface noise per se (apart from pop/click type nose), it's more setup/tracking etc I have problems with. Too many variables...

 

[Mike_Schmidt]

Well I think Im going to dig deep real deep and go for a Rega P5 upgrading from my music hall 5.1 SE. My dealer will give me back what I paid for it, so what the heck!